Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Final Freeze for Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy) at 2100UTC today

2013-10-11 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi, I know full well that I'm no longer allowed on this area, but the thought of Ubiquity being launched with such a, IMHO, serious bug does lead me to ask that the bug be allocated to some one and the testers are asked as to how we can provide data. I'm going to step out of line and explain a li

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Fwd: final Lubuntu i386 desktop live

2013-10-11 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi, a very simplistic background... Ubiquity, the desk top installer, needs more RAM to run the install than lubuntu itself needs to run. To allow people to use the DE installer, lubuntu runs a specific job to enable zram before the swap partition is actually created. Prior to that, the only way w

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Fwd: final Lubuntu i386 desktop live

2013-10-11 Thread Jörn Schönyan
Am 11.10.2013 20:08, schrieb JM: > > I think 256 MB RAM is too little for any modern system. Even the Ubuntu > Openbox Remix I > work on, which has a few components less does not behave in a very snappy way > on a > machine with so little RAM, and let's not forget what the GPU can bring or > rem

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Fwd: final Lubuntu i386 desktop live

2013-10-11 Thread JM
Hello Nio, On Fri, 11 Oct 2013 14:01:39 +0200 Nio Wiklund wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I would have liked to read from your tests if the machine slows down by > > swapping too > > early while some memory is still available or if it uses most of the > > physical RAM > > before doing so. You could se

[Lubuntu-qa] [PPC] Boot parameters

2013-10-11 Thread keith
Hi Phil, I spent the morning testing the Live ISO (via usb flash drive). The only boot parameter I needed was to get the correct color depth. For my radeon card that is the usual: live video=radeonfb:1920x1080-32@60 I submitted three passed tests on the iso tracker page: 1. The Live ISO pa

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Chromium

2013-10-11 Thread Leszek Lesner
Btw. One tip for chromium users who suffer from limited memory. You can force chromium to run as a single process with the commandline --single-process . This can save tons of ram when using many tabs but I am afraid I experienced some drawbacks on some sites. (rendering issues or pages not refresh

[Lubuntu-qa] Chromium

2013-10-11 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi, whilst in 13.10 we are moving to firefox as the default browser, support for chromium continues. To this end, version 30 has hit testing. Chad would specifically like it tested on low ram machines to check it is okay on low ram machines. The chase for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] PPC Image size

2013-10-11 Thread Phill Whiteside
The Alternate images have been herded up and now show on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/305/builds Can everyone remember that there are re-spins due, but please do test the installer until its pips squeak! We know lubuntu is stable, it is the installer on different hardware that we

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Ready for final RC image testing?

2013-10-11 Thread David Manuel Pires
Thanks for the heads-up Nicholas. On 11 October 2013 15:46, Nicholas Skaggs wrote: > Builds were a little slow in showing up but I see everything is in there > now. The 21:00 timeframe was only for the freeze, not for builds to be > available. Remember to expect new builds occuring into next we

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Ready for final RC image testing?

2013-10-11 Thread Nicholas Skaggs
Builds were a little slow in showing up but I see everything is in there now. The 21:00 timeframe was only for the freeze, not for builds to be available. Remember to expect new builds occuring into next week as some things are still landing due to freeze shakeout. Thanks for testing everyone!

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] PPC Image size

2013-10-11 Thread Lars Noodén
> On 11 October 2013 14:48, Lars Noodén wrote: > >> On 11.10.2013 03:33, Phill Whiteside wrote: >> >> I'm not seeing the Alternate disc image yet for PPC, it it on its >> way? >> >> Regards, /Lars >> > > I'm just trying to get someones attention to ask where they are :) > > > Regards, > >

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] PPC Image size

2013-10-11 Thread Phill Whiteside
I'm just trying to get someones attention to ask where they are :) Regards, Phill. On 11 October 2013 14:48, Lars Noodén wrote: > On 11.10.2013 03:33, Phill Whiteside wrote: > > Hi James, > > > > the release team had promised to keep PPC alive as it is part of the > server > > system that is

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] PPC Image size

2013-10-11 Thread Lars Noodén
On 11.10.2013 03:33, Phill Whiteside wrote: > Hi James, > > the release team had promised to keep PPC alive as it is part of the server > system that is still supported. As a very basic explain, there is PPC > server which will be supported and developed for IBM servers etc. When all > the other f

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Fwd: final Lubuntu i386 desktop live

2013-10-11 Thread Nio Wiklund
Hi Mélodie, I'll reply inline Best regards Nio On 2013-10-11 13:23, JM wrote: > On Fri, 11 Oct 2013 10:47:21 +0200 > Nio Wiklund wrote: > >> [Results after installation at the end] >> >> Original Message >> Subject: final Lubuntu i386 desktop live >> Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 09:0

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Fwd: final Lubuntu i386 desktop live

2013-10-11 Thread Leszek Lesner
I have to say again it is not an good option to set vm.swappiness to 0. Lowering it from the 60 to 25 is the one thing I would recommend. vm.vfs_cache_pressure setting to 50 means more ram is used for caching. So contraproductive you want more free RAM. I would recommend this setting to 100 (basica

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Fwd: final Lubuntu i386 desktop live

2013-10-11 Thread JM
On Fri, 11 Oct 2013 10:47:21 +0200 Nio Wiklund wrote: > [Results after installation at the end] > > Original Message > Subject: final Lubuntu i386 desktop live > Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 09:06:30 +0200 > From: Nio Wiklund > To: lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net > > Hi! > > I hav

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] PPC Image size

2013-10-11 Thread Nio Wiklund
I found this link http://www.squashfs-lzma.org/ It confirms that xz is available (and probably used already). Best regards Nio On 2013-10-11 11:14, Jörn Schönyan wrote: > Not 100% sure, but I think LZMA is used. Unfortunately, I can't find the > scripts that are used to generate the (L)Ubuntu

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] PPC Image size

2013-10-11 Thread Jörn Schönyan
Not 100% sure, but I think LZMA is used. Unfortunately, I can't find the scripts that are used to generate the (L)Ubuntu images - I'm looking for this for weeks now! :-) I think, Julien has done the best possible, so that seems to be a dead end. Jörn Am 11.10.2013 11:00, schrieb Nio Wiklund: >

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] PPC Image size

2013-10-11 Thread Nio Wiklund
On 2013-10-11 10:46, Jörn Schönyan wrote: > The few .debs on the isos are just a few megabytes, the problem is the > squashfs-compressed file system of Lubuntu itself. > > Jörn > > > Am 11.10.2013 02:32, schrieb Jackson Doak: >> Is there a way to find what .deb files don't use .xz yet? If i cou

[Lubuntu-qa] Fwd: final Lubuntu i386 desktop live

2013-10-11 Thread Nio Wiklund
[Results after installation at the end] Original Message Subject: final Lubuntu i386 desktop live Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 09:06:30 +0200 From: Nio Wiklund To: lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net Hi! I have started testing the final Lubuntu i386 desktop live session, and found the b

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] PPC Image size

2013-10-11 Thread Jörn Schönyan
The few .debs on the isos are just a few megabytes, the problem is the squashfs-compressed file system of Lubuntu itself. Jörn Am 11.10.2013 02:32, schrieb Jackson Doak: > Is there a way to find what .deb files don't use .xz yet? If i could > find that list making all the programs compress more

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] PPC Image size

2013-10-11 Thread Joern
Yea that is possible, but would be an unofficial respin. Jörn Am 11.10.2013 um 01:28 schrieb James King : > Is there a way to make an installer that has a minimal usable working > desktop, but is primarily a net installer to reduce space needed on the CD? > Just a brainstorm that's probably

[Lubuntu-qa] final Lubuntu i386 desktop live

2013-10-11 Thread Nio Wiklund
Hi! I have started testing the final Lubuntu i386 desktop live session, and found the bugs 940919 and 1213837. Slow but no freeze with low RAM I limited RAM to 256 MB, and it worked. no freeze while I installed htop at the same time as I opened Firefox. I could run htop and watch swapping. Firef