Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [Bug 1227202] Re: Unexpected freezes Saucy

2013-09-21 Thread Jonathan Marsden
sudo cp -a $tempmount/* "$TEMPAREA"/ # Unmount original ISO sudo umount $loopdev sudo losetup -d $loopdev rmdir $tempmount # Copy new vmlinuz to temp area sudo cp -p linux-image/boot/vmlinuz-3.11.0-7-generic "$TEMPAREA"/casper/vmlinuz # Should probably generate initrd here and

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [Bug 1227202] Re: Unexpected freezes Saucy

2013-09-21 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi Nio, If the issues of zram cannot be fixed for our desktop installer, then there are also much more serious issues for zram and the kernel. If Jopseph cannot sort out the issue, I see little choice but to ask Julien to disable z-ram. That request would weigh very heavy on my heart, Kernel freez

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [Bug 1227202] Re: Unexpected freezes Saucy

2013-09-21 Thread Nio Wiklund
Interesting pespective, Phill, I think we can live with the buggy combo kernel 3.11 + zRAM, because zRAM can be switched on and off by shell commands. So we can choose to use it only to enable the lower RAM machines to install via desktop :-) in the beginning (in the released 13.10 iso images).

[Lubuntu-qa] Fwd: Boot from first hard disk restarts syslinux (the installer)

2013-09-21 Thread Nio Wiklund
Hi, If you have this bug, please take a minute and mark that you are affected too, even if it is a small bug compared to the zRAM bug(s) and Lance's VIA graphic driver bugs. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/syslinux/+bug/1228652 Original Message Subject: Boot from fir

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [Bug 1227202] Re: Unexpected freezes Saucy

2013-09-21 Thread Phill Whiteside
As zram is a part of the kernel and enabled by default, do not get crazy about it. I had this back with kvm (virt-manager) when the fix was pulled into the 'ubuntu' kernel from a fix in the Red Hat one. As it appears more clearly that zram has issues, it not only affects lubuntu and *buntu but quit

[Lubuntu-qa] Boot from first hard disk restarts syslinux (the installer)

2013-09-21 Thread Nio Wiklund
New bug in Syslinux? 'Boot from first hard disk' restarts syslinux (the installer) instead of doing what it promises to do. Do you have that problem too? It not a killer bug. At that stage its OK to shut off the computer with the power button, but I think it is a bug. Best regards Nio -- Maili

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Bugs

2013-09-21 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi Lance, if I could solve all the graphics driver issues for linux I would Up stream is well up stream I understand how the dinosaurs died out. get onto the people at http://www.x.org/wiki/XorgIRC/ and nag them into submission. Of all people I know to be able to do that, you are top

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu 13.10 beta

2013-09-21 Thread Nio Wiklund
Does that kernel contain the bug-fix that Joseph Salisbury gave us? In that case zRAM should not be used except maybe for the installer until that bug is fixed :-/ Best regards Nio On 2013-09-21 20:49, Phill Whiteside wrote: > Hmm, link did not seem to go through.. > > I figured out a way to cr

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [Bug 1227202] Re: Unexpected freezes Saucy

2013-09-21 Thread Nio Wiklund
On 2013-09-21 20:27, Phill Whiteside wrote: > I'm beginning the thought that > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2162655&p=12735571#post12735571 > actually holds the key to this issue. They may well be 2 separate bugs, > but they both head towards zram. It seems very broken. > Yes, I think

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu 13.10 beta

2013-09-21 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hmm, link did not seem to go through.. I figured out a way to crash 3.11-rc1 every time, on this machine -- goto ->FB and play a Zynga flash game in Firefox. BooM! Repeatable time-after-after. LoL! Regards, Phill. On 21 September 2013 19:43, Phill Whiteside wrote: > As I mentioned on the bug

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Bugs

2013-09-21 Thread Erick Brunzell
On 09/21/2013 12:39 AM, Phill Whiteside wrote: > Hi, > > can you please add any bug numbers > onto https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/IRC%20Meetings/Agenda so that we > can cover them and start to make the release notes up. We only have > one more meeting before 13.10 lands, at this point we need to l

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu 13.10 beta

2013-09-21 Thread Phill Whiteside
I figured out a way to crash 3.11-rc1 every time, on this machine -- goto ->FB and play a Zynga flash game in Firefox. BooM! Repeatable time-after-after. LoL! On 21 September 2013 19:38, Lars Noodén wrote: > On 09/21/2013 09:31 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote: > > I have managed to freeze the default dai

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu 13.10 beta

2013-09-21 Thread Phill Whiteside
As I mentioned on the bug report, we may be facing more than one bug. We can only deal with one issue at a time, the easiest one to hit is does the new kernel stop the freeze when installation is completed. Joseph has said that the http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2162655&p=12735571#post127

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu 13.10 beta

2013-09-21 Thread Lars Noodén
On 09/21/2013 09:31 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote: > I have managed to freeze the default daily build of today too, but not > with Joseph Salisbury's kernel. I tried hard to do the same things that > froze the standard kernel, but no, it did not freeze for me. > > I limited the RAM to 384 MB to force swap

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu 13.10 beta

2013-09-21 Thread Nio Wiklund
On 2013-09-21 20:10, Lars Noodén wrote: > On 09/21/2013 08:59 PM, JM wrote: >> On Sat, 21 Sep 2013 20:11:47 +0300 >> Lars Noodén wrote: >> >>> On 09/21/2013 08:00 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: At this point it seems that we are trapped between a rock and a hard place. Kernel team <> IS

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu 13.10 beta

2013-09-21 Thread Nio Wiklund
On 2013-09-21 20:10, Lars Noodén wrote: > On 09/21/2013 08:59 PM, JM wrote: >> On Sat, 21 Sep 2013 20:11:47 +0300 >> Lars Noodén wrote: >> >>> On 09/21/2013 08:00 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: At this point it seems that we are trapped between a rock and a hard place. Kernel team <> IS

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu 13.10 beta

2013-09-21 Thread Lars Noodén
On 09/21/2013 08:59 PM, JM wrote: > On Sat, 21 Sep 2013 20:11:47 +0300 > Lars Noodén wrote: > >> On 09/21/2013 08:00 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: >>> At this point it seems that we are trapped between a rock and a hard place. >>> >>> Kernel team <> ISO team. ::SIGH:: Such frustrations led to my res

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu 13.10 beta

2013-09-21 Thread JM
On Sat, 21 Sep 2013 20:11:47 +0300 Lars Noodén wrote: > On 09/21/2013 08:00 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: > > At this point it seems that we are trapped between a rock and a hard place. > > > > Kernel team <> ISO team. ::SIGH:: Such frustrations led to my resigning > > from various teams, I've aske

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu 13.10 beta

2013-09-21 Thread Lars Noodén
On 09/21/2013 08:20 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: > On 21 September 2013 18:11, Lars Noodén > wrote: > >> On 09/21/2013 08:00 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: >>> At this point it seems that we are trapped between a rock and a >>> hard >> place. >>> >>> Kernel team <> ISO team. ::SIGH:: Such frustrations

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] ubuntu servers down

2013-09-21 Thread Phill Whiteside
The outage at the data centre has now been resolved, all services are coming back on-line. There may possibly a backlog for mail-man which looks after all the mailing lists. Just when you thought it was quiet on the e-mail lists, mail-man will be catching up :) Regards, Phill. On 21 September 2

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] ubuntu servers down

2013-09-21 Thread Ho Wan Chan
Hello Nio, One of the Canonical data centers in London received a power failure, so most of the Ubuntu services are down. It has been fixed now, and services are expected to go back up soon. Regards, Howard Chan (smartboyhw) Ubuntu Member 2013/9/21 nio wiklund > I cannot connect to the Ubuntu

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu 13.10 beta

2013-09-21 Thread Phill Whiteside
Lars, thanks for that.. can you update the bug.. there is the impossible part of pulling in something from the 3.12 kernel. Any reports we can give to the bug will hopefully assist the kernel team, as zram seems to fairly broken in the 3.11 kernel. Regards, Phill. On 21 September 2013 18:11, L

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] ubuntu servers down

2013-09-21 Thread nio wiklund
Launchpad is down too. I had some info from the launchpad IRC, that the servers are down and people are working on it. 2013/9/21 nio wiklund > I cannot connect to the Ubuntu web pages including the testing tracker. It > has been down for maybe an hour now. Who knows anything about it? > > Best

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu 13.10 beta

2013-09-21 Thread Phill Whiteside
Lars, there is only an standard 64 bit kernel with the fix in it. My own frustration levels as to why a clearly pointed out bug and fix are wandering around in the 'needs testing' area when the actual test is to put it into an ISO.. I've asked as many peopleas I know to make a lubuntu-deskto

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu 13.10 beta

2013-09-21 Thread Lars Noodén
On 09/21/2013 08:00 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: > At this point it seems that we are trapped between a rock and a hard place. > > Kernel team <> ISO team. ::SIGH:: Such frustrations led to my resigning > from various teams, I've asked a couple of people who can make an ISO with > the test kernel if

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu 13.10 beta

2013-09-21 Thread Phill Whiteside
At this point it seems that we are trapped between a rock and a hard place. Kernel team <> ISO team. ::SIGH:: Such frustrations led to my resigning from various teams, I've asked a couple of people who can make an ISO with the test kernel if they would. Other than that, my hands are tied. We need

[Lubuntu-qa] ubuntu servers down

2013-09-21 Thread nio wiklund
I cannot connect to the Ubuntu web pages including the testing tracker. It has been down for maybe an hour now. Who knows anything about it? Best regards Nio -- sudodus alias Nio Wiklund -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa Post to : lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe :

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu 13.10 beta

2013-09-21 Thread Lars Noodén
On 09/18/2013 05:59 PM, Lars Noodén wrote: > On 09/18/2013 05:40 PM, Leszek Lesner wrote: >> You can test it on your own by deactivating zram >> sudo swapoff /dev/zram0 >> sudo swapoff /dev/zram1 >> sudo rmmod zram >> and see if it freezes again. >> >> With zram enabled it should only freeze when r

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Thunderbird can't write letters without restart

2013-09-21 Thread Lars Noodén
On 09/20/2013 09:57 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: > Hi, > > In my production machine I run Ubuntu with lubuntu-desktop > > After the update yesterday (Sept 19 2013). I have a problem with Thunderbird > > The window to write letters (or reply to letters) is borked. There is no > cursor, and although it