[Lubuntu-qa] usb-creator-gtk fails to run on lubuntu13.04 beta 2, launchpad bug 1165200

2013-06-05 Thread Nio Wiklund
Hi everybody, I found some recent comments about the bug 1165200. I will try if it would help to add a python and a gudev library (it does for some people, but not all according to the comments). If it is a general solution, I suggest it should be fixed in the lubuntu code and trickle down to the

[Lubuntu-qa] alpha testing

2013-06-05 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi testers, There has been several discussions which I have not sent each day to this list about testing 13.10. But, it is now time to ask your thoughts We found that cadence testing last cycle did not really help lubuntu, as such I've asked for us to go back to alpha testing. One of the issu

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [LTS] I'm very confused

2013-06-05 Thread nio wiklund
Thank you for sharing knowledge about ubuntu-support-status and giving us a chance to run ubuntu-support-status --show-unsupported and decide how to continue (business as usual, remove some unsupported packages, or upgrade to a newer version). The output of this command (with and without optio

[Lubuntu-qa] Planned work for Lubuntu 13.04 (was: Re: [Suggestion] Having another version for Lubuntu (Mini Lubuntu))

2013-06-05 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 06/05/2013 05:27 AM, Erick Brunzell wrote: > I'm a bit concerned after reading this: > > http://www.webupd8.org/2013/05/possible-changes-in-ubunu-1310-saucy.html > ... > * better file manager that includes support for ssh/ftp; > ... That list looks like it came from the vUDS blueprint? > I

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] ubuntu-support-status

2013-06-05 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 06/05/2013 08:08 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: > Maybe raise a bug that says "you have zero supported packages" instead > of just dying? But they won't backport the fix to Lucid :) Actually this app is more than a little scary in its tight Canonical-oriented definition of "supported". If you d

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] ubuntu-support-status (was: Re: [LTS] I'm very confused)

2013-06-05 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi Jonathan, Maybe raise a bug that says "you have zero supported packages" instead of just dying? Regards, Phill. On 6 June 2013 03:27, Jonathan Marsden wrote: > On 06/05/2013 01:32 PM, Yorvyk wrote: > > > Just heard this on UUPC and thought it relevant, in a terminal type: > > > > ubunt

[Lubuntu-qa] ubuntu-support-status (was: Re: [LTS] I'm very confused)

2013-06-05 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 06/05/2013 01:32 PM, Yorvyk wrote: > Just heard this on UUPC and thought it relevant, in a terminal type: > > ubuntu-support-status Grin! On a Lucid desktop I get: jonathan@black:~$ ubuntu-support-status Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/ubuntu-support-status", l

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [LTS] I'm very confused

2013-06-05 Thread Yorvyk
On 05/06/13 20:07, Julien Lavergne wrote: 2013/6/5 Yorvyk : An excellent explanation here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS Especially this part : "The LTS designation applies only to specific subsets of the Ubuntu archive. The LTS may not apply to all flavors and remixes of Ubuntu. For example, for

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [LTS] I'm very confused

2013-06-05 Thread Yorvyk
LTS - Long Term Support - A few thoughts. While Canonical have a definition for LTS on the 'buntu flavours, it is ultimately up to the user to decide what is 'Long' and what is 'Support'. The people behind LXLE have declared it an LTS release, quote: " ...with plans of incremental updates until

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [LTS] I'm very confused

2013-06-05 Thread Julien Lavergne
2013/6/5 Yorvyk : > An excellent explanation here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS Especially this part : "The LTS designation applies only to specific subsets of the Ubuntu archive. The LTS may not apply to all flavors and remixes of Ubuntu. For example, for 8.04 LTS, Kubuntu chose to move to KDE 4.0

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [Suggestion] Having another version for Lubuntu (Mini Lubuntu)

2013-06-05 Thread Julien Lavergne
2013/6/5 Erick Brunzell : > > I'm a bit concerned after reading this: > > http://www.webupd8.org/2013/05/possible-changes-in-ubunu-1310-saucy.html Hummm, you should only trust what is said on this mailing list. Don't trust outside sources if there is no quotes or source in this mailing list. > Spe

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [LTS] I'm very confused

2013-06-05 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi, if any packages do not receive updates (i.e. Support), it is mis-leading to call it Long Term Support. 10.04 is there PRECISELY because of the dropping of Chip-Sets after it. It does not receive updates to desktop applications, I'm not 100% on kernels, as they are part of server - which is st

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [LTS] I'm very confused

2013-06-05 Thread Joern
It is intended to upgrade to a new version when it is released. As 12.10 was released, 12.04 became outdated, because it wasn't a LTS. Now, 12.10 is also outdated because 13.04 is there. And LXLE is an LTS because the creator says, he provides the updates for packages like PCManFM. The rest is

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [LTS] I'm very confused

2013-06-05 Thread Ali Linx (amjjawad)
Phill, Thank you for your 2nd reply :) I'm aware of that difference and this is exactly what I tell the new comers to Lubuntu. You are not talking to one of them, by the way. I'm not an expert but let's say I'm an average user in the middle of the road, neither a beginner, nor an expert. What I

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [LTS] I'm very confused

2013-06-05 Thread Phill Whiteside
Ali, please understand the difference. anything that starts 'lx' and pcmanfm will not receive updates in lubuntu 12.04 once it goes 'EOL' to Lubuntu. Updates provided by 'core' systems (e.g. kernel, chomium etc.) will continue to be available. Regards, Phill. On 5 June 2013 13:30, Yorvyk wrote

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [Suggestion] Having another version for Lubuntu (Mini Lubuntu)

2013-06-05 Thread Yorvyk
On 05/06/13 13:27, Erick Brunzell wrote: On 06/04/2013 01:59 PM, Julien Lavergne wrote: 2013/6/3 Jonathan Marsden: But, back to the 'lubuntu-core' vs 'lubuntu-desktop' issue, I'd prefer that we take an approach similar to that of Edubuntu where they offer additional installation options on the

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [LTS] I'm very confused

2013-06-05 Thread Yorvyk
On 05/06/13 12:50, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: Hi Phill, Thank you for your reply but I appreciate if the devs could answer my Qs because what you have said I'm aware of and this is what we tell our new users. I am asking for more information :) An excellent explanation here: https://wiki.ubunt

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [Suggestion] Having another version for Lubuntu (Mini Lubuntu)

2013-06-05 Thread Erick Brunzell
On 06/04/2013 01:59 PM, Julien Lavergne wrote: > 2013/6/3 Jonathan Marsden : >>> But, back to the 'lubuntu-core' vs 'lubuntu-desktop' issue, I'd >>> prefer that we take an approach similar to that of Edubuntu where >>> they offer additional installation options on the live images. After >>> the "pr

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [LTS] I'm very confused

2013-06-05 Thread Ali Linx (amjjawad)
Hi Phill, Thank you for your reply but I appreciate if the devs could answer my Qs because what you have said I'm aware of and this is what we tell our new users. I am asking for more information :) @Our Devs: Another Q: What makes LXLE, which is based on Lubuntu 12.04 an LTS release? while LXLE

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [LTS] I'm very confused

2013-06-05 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi Ali, in 12.04 whilst the *ubuntu* parts are LTS, the 'lubuntu' parts are not. Also, as it was only our 2nd release the rules state that it could not be called LTS. In 14.04, our devs have said that they will maintain the 'lubuntu' parts for the life of the LTS. Regards, Phill. On 5 June 20

[Lubuntu-qa] [LTS] I'm very confused

2013-06-05 Thread Ali Linx (amjjawad)
Hello Lubuntu devs and everyone, I'm so sorry if I'm bringing an old topic to the discussion table but as Lubuntu Member and user, I'm asking for a professional explanation from a developer of Lubuntu because I'm seriously LOST. So, please don't hate me. I really need your help by explaining to m

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [Suggestion] Having another version for Lubuntu (Mini Lubuntu)

2013-06-05 Thread Erick Brunzell
On 06/04/2013 07:06 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: > > > Thank you, Lance, much appreciated. > > Obviously, our Devs don't find this idea interested or let's say, they > just can't go for it and reasons are very much understood and no need > to discuss any further. > > As I mentioned before. As lon

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [Suggestion] Having another version for Lubuntu (Mini Lubuntu)

2013-06-05 Thread Erick Brunzell
On 06/04/2013 04:44 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote: > > > Hi everybody, > > mörgæs has described old hardware, where Lubuntu is a good choice: which > CPUs, how much memory, which applications etc. See the opening post in > the following thread at the Ubuntu Forums: "Old hardware" > > http://ubuntuforums.or

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [Suggestion] Having another version for Lubuntu (Mini Lubuntu)

2013-06-05 Thread Yorvyk
On 05/06/13 01:01, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 2:27 AM, Yorvyk mailto:yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com>> wrote: On 04/06/13 21:35, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: > hardware that is too old to install Lubuntu from a current LiveCD or Alternate CD I'm b