Re: Powerbook shuts down hard when hot, patch found

2007-10-01 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Mon, 2007-10-01 at 22:58 +0200, Michael Buesch wrote: > On Monday 01 October 2007 10:00:02 Michel Dänzer wrote: > > > > On Sun, 2007-09-30 at 12:16 +0200, Michael Buesch wrote: > > > > > > Ah, forgot to say. > > > It does not crash immediately when the register is written. It takes > > > abo

Re: Powerbook shuts down hard when hot, patch found

2007-10-01 Thread Michael Buesch
On Monday 01 October 2007 10:00:02 Michel Dänzer wrote: > > On Sun, 2007-09-30 at 12:16 +0200, Michael Buesch wrote: > > > > Ah, forgot to say. > > It does not crash immediately when the register is written. It takes about > > two seconds > > to crash. And when the machine is colder to begin wit

Re: Powerbook shuts down hard when hot, patch found

2007-10-01 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Sun, 2007-09-30 at 12:16 +0200, Michael Buesch wrote: > > Ah, forgot to say. > It does not crash immediately when the register is written. It takes about > two seconds > to crash. And when the machine is colder to begin with, it takes slightly > longer to trigger. That _might_ support your ov

Re: Powerbook shuts down hard when hot, patch found

2007-09-30 Thread Michael Buesch
On Sunday 30 September 2007 12:13:36 Michael Buesch wrote: > On Sunday 30 September 2007 00:49:05 Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > Well, it's possible that they have a too weak pull-up resistor on those > > lines, and thus when asserted to 0, a significant current goes through > > causing the whol

Re: Powerbook shuts down hard when hot, patch found

2007-09-30 Thread Michael Buesch
On Sunday 30 September 2007 00:49:05 Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > Well, it's possible that they have a too weak pull-up resistor on those > lines, and thus when asserted to 0, a significant current goes through > causing the whole thing to heat up. That heat added to the residual heat > of a hot

Re: Powerbook shuts down hard when hot, patch found

2007-09-29 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
On Sun, 2007-09-30 at 00:26 +0200, Michael Buesch wrote: > On Sunday 30 September 2007 00:19:53 Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > > > > > > > This all smells to me like a silicon bug, so I'd start searching > > > in the silicon erratas. But I'm not sure, of course. It's also strange > > > that i

Re: Powerbook shuts down hard when hot, patch found

2007-09-29 Thread Michael Buesch
On Sunday 30 September 2007 00:19:53 Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > > > > This all smells to me like a silicon bug, so I'd start searching > > in the silicon erratas. But I'm not sure, of course. It's also strange > > that it depends on temperature. (That's why I first expected the PMU > > wou

Re: Powerbook shuts down hard when hot, patch found

2007-09-29 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
> > This all smells to me like a silicon bug, so I'd start searching > in the silicon erratas. But I'm not sure, of course. It's also strange > that it depends on temperature. (That's why I first expected the PMU > would cause this). > > Thanks for your help. Could be that we are creating a sho

Re: Powerbook shuts down hard when hot, patch found

2007-09-29 Thread Michael Buesch
On Saturday 29 September 2007 23:51:55 Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > On Sat, 2007-09-29 at 13:22 +0200, Michael Buesch wrote: > > On Saturday 29 September 2007 13:06:59 Michael Buesch wrote: > > > > This is very strange... Can you try also clearing VGA_DDC_CLK_OUT_EN and > > > > VGA_DDC_DATA_O

Re: Powerbook shuts down hard when hot, patch found

2007-09-29 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
On Sat, 2007-09-29 at 13:22 +0200, Michael Buesch wrote: > On Saturday 29 September 2007 13:06:59 Michael Buesch wrote: > > > This is very strange... Can you try also clearing VGA_DDC_CLK_OUT_EN and > > > VGA_DDC_DATA_OUT_EN and the same time and see if that helps ? > > > > It still triggers the

Re: Powerbook shuts down hard when hot, patch found

2007-09-29 Thread Michael Buesch
On Saturday 29 September 2007 13:06:59 Michael Buesch wrote: > > This is very strange... Can you try also clearing VGA_DDC_CLK_OUT_EN and > > VGA_DDC_DATA_OUT_EN and the same time and see if that helps ? > > It still triggers the bug then. I tried something else. I removed the write and only adde

Re: Powerbook shuts down hard when hot, patch found

2007-09-29 Thread Michael Buesch
On Saturday 29 September 2007 01:04:13 Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > On Fri, 2007-09-28 at 23:32 +0200, Michael Buesch wrote: > > Hi, > > > > some time ago I already mailed you about this problem. > > I will quickly describe what's going on, again: > > > > My powerbook boots fine when it's c

Re: Powerbook shuts down hard when hot, patch found

2007-09-28 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
On Fri, 2007-09-28 at 23:32 +0200, Michael Buesch wrote: > Hi, > > some time ago I already mailed you about this problem. > I will quickly describe what's going on, again: > > My powerbook boots fine when it's cold. You can work with > it and you can also run it hot (compile something, etc...).