Re: [usb-storage] Re: usb3 fails to write when using usb3 hub in usb3 port

2012-09-29 Thread Theodore Kilgore
On Sun, 30 Sep 2012, Adrian Sandu wrote: > > We are working with computers. Weird stuff is not supposed to happen. But > > it does. Occasionally, this needs to be remembered, as it does > > occasionally cause real-world problems and is often the likely explanation > > for what is otherwise inexp

Re: [usb-storage] Re: usb3 fails to write when using usb3 hub in usb3 port

2012-09-29 Thread Peter Stuge
Adrian Sandu wrote: > I wouldn't of expected this from WD .. Like with Theodore's problem you don't really know for sure where the problem was in your setup. Any combination of USB controller hardware in PC, cable, and electronics in drive enclosure can have caused your problem. External disk dr

Re: [usb-storage] Re: usb3 fails to write when using usb3 hub in usb3 port

2012-09-29 Thread Adrian Sandu
> We are working with computers. Weird stuff is not supposed to happen. But > it does. Occasionally, this needs to be remembered, as it does > occasionally cause real-world problems and is often the likely explanation > for what is otherwise inexplicable. Thus, sooner or later some old geezer > com

Re: [usb-storage] Re: usb3 fails to write when using usb3 hub in usb3 port

2012-09-29 Thread Theodore Kilgore
On Sat, 29 Sep 2012, Adrian Sandu wrote: > > The only solution I see is to buy something else, like an Asus > > EB1501P-B057E .. I need something small and fast enough .. :| Maybe > > any other recommendations ? ( other root chipset / atom cpu .. small > > powered .. etc. ) > > DON'T KILL ME !

Re: [usb-storage] Re: usb3 fails to write when using usb3 hub in usb3 port

2012-09-29 Thread Adrian Sandu
> The only solution I see is to buy something else, like an Asus > EB1501P-B057E .. I need something small and fast enough .. :| Maybe > any other recommendations ? ( other root chipset / atom cpu .. small > powered .. etc. ) DON'T KILL ME ! .. I got the best cables I could get my hands on ( doubl

Re: [usb-storage] Re: usb3 fails to write when using usb3 hub in usb3 port

2012-09-28 Thread Adrian Sandu
The only solution I see is to buy something else, like an Asus EB1501P-B057E .. I need something small and fast enough .. :| Maybe any other recommendations ? ( other root chipset / atom cpu .. small powered .. etc. ) -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-scsi" in the b

Re: [usb-storage] Re: usb3 fails to write when using usb3 hub in usb3 port

2012-09-27 Thread Adrian Sandu
> > Adrian, > > I think that the suggestion about checking the power supply, the cabling, > the grounding screws, and anything of like nature that has been omitted > from this list is a very good idea. If successful it would eliminate > the problem for you, as well as resolving the mystery. Unresol

Re: [usb-storage] Re: usb3 fails to write when using usb3 hub in usb3 port

2012-09-27 Thread Theodore Kilgore
Adrian, I think that the suggestion about checking the power supply, the cabling, the grounding screws, and anything of like nature that has been omitted from this list is a very good idea. If successful it would eliminate the problem for you, as well as resolving the mystery. Unresolved myst

Re: [usb-storage] Re: usb3 fails to write when using usb3 hub in usb3 port

2012-09-27 Thread Adrian Sandu
> They're the same chipset. There's minor differences in the PCI > capabilities, but not much else. It could be something electrically > wrong with the AsRock system, I suppose. That's possible if you see > the errors popping up erratically. > > Any chance you can exchange the AsRock system? No

Re: [usb-storage] Re: usb3 fails to write when using usb3 hub in usb3 port

2012-09-27 Thread Sarah Sharp
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 10:02:22PM +0300, Adrian Sandu wrote: > > Since you are using the same live CD on both computers, this has to be > > caused by a difference in the hardware. What do "lspci -vvv" and > > "lspci -vvv -n" show on the two computers? > > http://d3xt3r01.tk/~dexter/usbmon/asrock

Re: [usb-storage] Re: usb3 fails to write when using usb3 hub in usb3 port

2012-09-27 Thread Adrian Sandu
> Since you are using the same live CD on both computers, this has to be > caused by a difference in the hardware. What do "lspci -vvv" and > "lspci -vvv -n" show on the two computers? http://d3xt3r01.tk/~dexter/usbmon/asrock_lspci http://d3xt3r01.tk/~dexter/usbmon/vaio_lspci -- To unsubscribe fr

Re: [usb-storage] Re: usb3 fails to write when using usb3 hub in usb3 port

2012-09-27 Thread Alan Stern
On Thu, 27 Sep 2012, Adrian Sandu wrote: > >> Adrian Sandu wrote: > >>> I tried with a 3.3.8 , same thing happened. I don't understand why my > >>> gentoo (asrock) fails and fedora(laptop) didn't ! :| > > Tried to use the live cd on my laptop, can't reproduce it in any way > on my computer .. > U

Re: [usb-storage] Re: usb3 fails to write when using usb3 hub in usb3 port

2012-09-27 Thread Adrian Sandu
>> Adrian Sandu wrote: >>> I tried with a 3.3.8 , same thing happened. I don't understand why my >>> gentoo (asrock) fails and fedora(laptop) didn't ! :| Tried to use the live cd on my laptop, can't reproduce it in any way on my computer .. Using the same live cd I can reproduce the problem on the

Re: [usb-storage] Re: usb3 fails to write when using usb3 hub in usb3 port

2012-09-27 Thread Adrian Sandu
> Adrian Sandu wrote: >> I tried with a 3.3.8 , same thing happened. I don't understand why my >> gentoo (asrock) fails and fedora(laptop) didn't ! :| > > Try what Alan suggested, start the Gentoo userland with the Fedora > kernel. I tried booting a Fedora-17-x86_64-Live-Desktop.iso .. same thing

Re: [usb-storage] Re: usb3 fails to write when using usb3 hub in usb3 port

2012-09-27 Thread Peter Stuge
Adrian Sandu wrote: > I tried with a 3.3.8 , same thing happened. I don't understand why my > gentoo (asrock) fails and fedora(laptop) didn't ! :| Try what Alan suggested, start the Gentoo userland with the Fedora kernel. Do you have some crazy USE flags for your toolchain? If the Fedora kernel

Re: [usb-storage] Re: usb3 fails to write when using usb3 hub in usb3 port

2012-09-27 Thread Alan Stern
On Thu, 27 Sep 2012, Adrian Sandu wrote: > I tried with a 3.3.8 , same thing happened. I don't understand why my > gentoo (asrock) fails and fedora(laptop) didn't ! :| Come to think of it, you could try running the same kernel on both computers to see what happens. For example, boot both of the

Re: [usb-storage] Re: usb3 fails to write when using usb3 hub in usb3 port

2012-09-27 Thread Alan Stern
On Thu, 27 Sep 2012, Adrian Sandu wrote: > >> I tried with a 3.3.8 , same thing happened. I don't understand why my > >> gentoo (asrock) fails and fedora(laptop) didn't ! :| > >> Why ? What causes it to shutdown ? It can copy to/from drives ( in the > >> hub or directly in the root hub ) .. but wh

Re: [usb-storage] Re: usb3 fails to write when using usb3 hub in usb3 port

2012-09-27 Thread Adrian Sandu
>> I tried with a 3.3.8 , same thing happened. I don't understand why my >> gentoo (asrock) fails and fedora(laptop) didn't ! :| >> Why ? What causes it to shutdown ? It can copy to/from drives ( in the >> hub or directly in the root hub ) .. but what makes it fail sometimes >> :| > > If we knew th

Re: [usb-storage] Re: usb3 fails to write when using usb3 hub in usb3 port

2012-09-27 Thread Alan Stern
On Thu, 27 Sep 2012, Adrian Sandu wrote: > >> Anything else I can help with ? :| I'm stuck .. dunno what to test > >> more or what else helpfull info I could give ya' guys .. > > > > You could run a test with a 3.3 kernel, as Sarah asked earlier. Other > > than that, I can't think of anything. M

Re: [usb-storage] Re: usb3 fails to write when using usb3 hub in usb3 port

2012-09-27 Thread Adrian Sandu
>> Anything else I can help with ? :| I'm stuck .. dunno what to test >> more or what else helpfull info I could give ya' guys .. > > You could run a test with a 3.3 kernel, as Sarah asked earlier. Other > than that, I can't think of anything. Maybe Sarah will come up with a > patch for you to tr

Re: [usb-storage] Re: usb3 fails to write when using usb3 hub in usb3 port

2012-09-27 Thread Alan Stern
Please trim unnecessary junk from your emails. There's no reason to send all the stuff at the end of those messages to everybody on the mailing list. On Thu, 27 Sep 2012, Adrian Sandu wrote: > Anything else I can help with ? :| I'm stuck .. dunno what to test > more or what else helpfull info

Re: [usb-storage] Re: usb3 fails to write when using usb3 hub in usb3 port

2012-09-27 Thread Adrian Sandu
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 8:16 PM, Adrian Sandu wrote: > 2012-09-26T20:13:09.700606+03:00 d3xt3r01 kernel: [ 2466.455403] usb > 3-1.1: reset SuperSpeed USB device number 14 using xhci_hcd > 2012-09-26T20:13:09.713629+03:00 d3xt3r01 kernel: [ 2466.468373] > xhci_hcd :04:00.0: xHCI xhci_drop_endpo

Re: [usb-storage] Re: usb3 fails to write when using usb3 hub in usb3 port

2012-09-26 Thread Adrian Sandu
2012-09-26T20:13:09.700606+03:00 d3xt3r01 kernel: [ 2466.455403] usb 3-1.1: reset SuperSpeed USB device number 14 using xhci_hcd 2012-09-26T20:13:09.713629+03:00 d3xt3r01 kernel: [ 2466.468373] xhci_hcd :04:00.0: xHCI xhci_drop_endpoint called with disabled ep 88011aea1300 2012-09-26T20:13:

Re: [usb-storage] Re: usb3 fails to write when using usb3 hub in usb3 port

2012-09-26 Thread Adrian Sandu
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 5:50 PM, Alan Stern wrote: > On Tue, 25 Sep 2012, Sarah Sharp wrote: > >> Alan, I'm wondering if the xHCI ring expansion is causing issues with >> USB hard drives under xHCI. Testing with a Buffalo USB 3.0 hard drive >> with an NEC uPD720200 xHCI host, I see that the usb-s

Re: [usb-storage] Re: usb3 fails to write when using usb3 hub in usb3 port

2012-09-26 Thread Alan Stern
On Tue, 25 Sep 2012, Sarah Sharp wrote: > Alan, I'm wondering if the xHCI ring expansion is causing issues with > USB hard drives under xHCI. Testing with a Buffalo USB 3.0 hard drive > with an NEC uPD720200 xHCI host, I see that the usb-storage and SCSI > initialization produces I/O errors on ra