Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two

2007-09-17 Thread Stefan Richter
Maciej W. Rozycki wrote: > SCSI is a generic peripheral bus No, not anymore. http://www.t10.org/scsi-3.htm > (recall the expansion of the acronym). The expansion of the acronym doesn't fit anymore to what SCSI is today, or even to what it became already circa 10 years ago. > Even though proba

Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two

2007-09-17 Thread Maciej W. Rozycki
On Sat, 15 Sep 2007, Stefan Richter wrote: > >> +menu "Storage (core and SCSI commands)" > >> > >> config SCSI > >> - tristate "SCSI device support" > >> + tristate "Storage support (core and SCSI commands)" > >>depends on BLOCK > >>select SCSI_DMA if HAS_DMA > >>---help--- > >> .

Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two

2007-09-16 Thread Greg KH
On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 06:23:13PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > @Greg: > Do you have any numbers regarding how your "Linux Kernel in a Nutshell" > is selling? It is selling reasonably well for an O'Reilly book from what I have been told. But I have not seen any real numbers yet. > Even downlo

Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two

2007-09-15 Thread Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
On Saturday 15 September 2007, Jeff Garzik wrote: > Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote: > > On Saturday 15 September 2007, Adrian Bunk wrote: > >> On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 11:44:59AM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote: > >>> Stefan Richter wrote: > Adrian Bunk wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 04:11:45

Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two

2007-09-15 Thread Jeff Garzik
Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote: On Saturday 15 September 2007, Adrian Bunk wrote: On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 11:44:59AM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote: Stefan Richter wrote: Adrian Bunk wrote: On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 04:11:45PM +0200, Stefan Richter wrote: Perfect is in the eye of the beholder. You

Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two

2007-09-15 Thread Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
On Saturday 15 September 2007, Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 11:44:59AM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote: > > Stefan Richter wrote: > >> Adrian Bunk wrote: > >>> On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 04:11:45PM +0200, Stefan Richter wrote: > Perfect is in the eye of the beholder. You would consequen

Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two

2007-09-15 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 05:27:24PM +0200, Stefan Richter wrote: > Adrian Bunk wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 04:11:45PM +0200, Stefan Richter wrote: > >> Perfect is in the eye of the beholder. You would consequently have to > >> add such options into all menus which contain scsi low-level prov

Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two

2007-09-15 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 11:44:59AM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote: > Stefan Richter wrote: >> Adrian Bunk wrote: >>> On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 04:11:45PM +0200, Stefan Richter wrote: Perfect is in the eye of the beholder. You would consequently have to add such options into all menus which conta

Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two

2007-09-15 Thread Jeff Garzik
Stefan Richter wrote: Adrian Bunk wrote: On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 04:11:45PM +0200, Stefan Richter wrote: Perfect is in the eye of the beholder. You would consequently have to add such options into all menus which contain scsi low-level providers. Kconfig is a user interface, so perfect is wha

Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two

2007-09-15 Thread Stefan Richter
Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 04:11:45PM +0200, Stefan Richter wrote: >> Perfect is in the eye of the beholder. You would consequently have to >> add such options into all menus which contain scsi low-level providers. > > Kconfig is a user interface, so perfect is what is best for

Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two

2007-09-15 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 04:11:45PM +0200, Stefan Richter wrote: > Adrian Bunk wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 03:20:06PM +0200, Stefan Richter wrote: > >> It still doesn't entirely clarify whether users need sd, sr, st, and > >> whether thy need sd for the disk with root filesystem. > > > > If

Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two

2007-09-15 Thread Stefan Richter
Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 03:20:06PM +0200, Stefan Richter wrote: >> It still doesn't entirely clarify whether users need sd, sr, st, and >> whether thy need sd for the disk with root filesystem. > > If you want to do it in a really perfect way, help texts aren't the > solution

Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two

2007-09-15 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 03:20:06PM +0200, Stefan Richter wrote: > Adrian Bunk wrote: > >>> There should first be the lowlevel SCSI, SATA, USB etc. drivers, these > >>> drivers should select CONFIG_SCSI, and then the menu offering support > >>> for disk, CD,... > ... > > If users who don't need it

Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two

2007-09-15 Thread Stefan Richter
Adrian Bunk wrote: >>> There should first be the lowlevel SCSI, SATA, USB etc. drivers, these >>> drivers should select CONFIG_SCSI, and then the menu offering support >>> for disk, CD,... ... > If users who don't need it now enable CONFIG_SCSI (and drivers/ide/ > usage is not that uncommon) tha

Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two

2007-09-15 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 02:24:17PM +0200, Stefan Richter wrote: > Adrian Bunk wrote: >... > >> # drivers/Kconfig > >> > >> +source "drivers/scsi/Kconfig" > >> + > >> menu "Device Drivers" > >> > >> source "drivers/base/Kconfig" > >> @@ -22,7 +24,7 @@ source "drivers/misc/Kconfig" > >> > >>

Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two

2007-09-15 Thread Stefan Richter
Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 10:01:18PM +0200, Stefan Richter wrote: >> drivers/Kconfig |4 >> drivers/scsi/Kconfig | 1589 -- >> drivers/scsi/Kconfig.lowlevel | 1578 + >> 3 files changed,

Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two

2007-09-15 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 10:01:18PM +0200, Stefan Richter wrote: > On 14 Sep, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 09:00:33PM +0200, Sam Ravnborg wrote: > >> Hi Stefan. > >> > >> Such a patch really calls for some minimal unifacation among > >> the architectures. > >> > >> > > >> > arc

Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two

2007-09-14 Thread Stefan Richter
I wrote: > Applies after patch "SCSI: update Kconfig help text to indicate SCSI > core's widespread usage", Actually the addition "This menu also presents options for specific SCSI controllers..." from that patch is then no longer true. > These two patches could very well be collapsed into one.

Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two

2007-09-14 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 09:00:33PM +0200, Sam Ravnborg wrote: > Hi Stefan. > > Such a patch really calls for some minimal unifacation among > the architectures. > > > > > arch/alpha/Kconfig|2 > > arch/arm/Kconfig |2 > > arch/avr32/Kconfig|2

Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two

2007-09-14 Thread Sam Ravnborg
Hi Stefan. Such a patch really calls for some minimal unifacation among the architectures. > > arch/alpha/Kconfig|2 > arch/arm/Kconfig |2 > arch/avr32/Kconfig|2 > arch/blackfin/Kconfig |2 > arch/cris/Kconfig |2