On Monday 21 September 2009 19:23:54 Sakari Ailus wrote:
> Hans Verkuil wrote:
> > On Sunday 13 September 2009 08:13:04 Nathaniel Kim wrote:
> >> 2009. 9. 12., 오전 7:21, Hans Verkuil 작성:
> >>
> >> Hans,
> >>
> >> First of all I'm very sorry that I had not enough time to go through
> >> your new RFC.
Hans Verkuil wrote:
On Sunday 13 September 2009 08:13:04 Nathaniel Kim wrote:
2009. 9. 12., 오전 7:21, Hans Verkuil 작성:
Hans,
First of all I'm very sorry that I had not enough time to go through
your new RFC. I'll checkout right after posting this mail.
I think this is a good approach and I
> From the kernel point of view, (most of) the various sub-devices in a
> media
> device are arranged in a tree of kernel objects. Most of the time we have
> an
> I2C controller and various devices sitting on the I2C bus, one or several
> video devices that sit on some internal bus (usually a SoC
On Sunday 13 September 2009 16:00:01 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> Em Sun, 13 Sep 2009 15:43:02 +0200
> Hans Verkuil escreveu:
> > On Sunday 13 September 2009 15:27:57 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> > > Em Sun, 13 Sep 2009 15:13:04 +0900
> > > Nathaniel Kim escreveu:
[snip]
> > > > I think thi
On Saturday 12 September 2009 00:21:48 Hans Verkuil wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've started this as a new thread to prevent polluting the discussions of
> the media controller as a concept.
[snip]
> What sort of interaction do we need with sub-devices?
[snip]
> 2) Private ioctls. Basically a way
lho Chehab [mche...@infradead.org]
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 7:31 PM
To: wk
Cc: Hans Verkuil; linux-media@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Media controller: sysfs vs ioctl
Em Sun, 13 Sep 2009 17:54:11 +0200
wk escreveu:
> Hans Verkuil schrieb:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I
Em Sun, 13 Sep 2009 17:54:11 +0200
wk escreveu:
> Hans Verkuil schrieb:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I've started this as a new thread to prevent polluting the discussions of
> > the
> > media controller as a concept.
> >
> > First of all, I have no doubt that everything that you can do with an ioctl,
>
On Sunday 13 September 2009 17:54:11 wk wrote:
> Hans Verkuil schrieb:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I've started this as a new thread to prevent polluting the discussions of
> > the
> > media controller as a concept.
> >
> > First of all, I have no doubt that everything that you can do with an ioctl,
> > y
Hans Verkuil schrieb:
Hi all,
I've started this as a new thread to prevent polluting the discussions of the
media controller as a concept.
First of all, I have no doubt that everything that you can do with an ioctl,
you can also do with sysfs and vice versa. That's not the problem here.
The pr
Em Sun, 13 Sep 2009 15:43:02 +0200
Hans Verkuil escreveu:
> On Sunday 13 September 2009 15:27:57 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> > Em Sun, 13 Sep 2009 15:13:04 +0900
> > Nathaniel Kim escreveu:
> >
> > >
> > > 2009. 9. 12., 오전 7:21, Hans Verkuil 작성:
> > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > I've s
On Sunday 13 September 2009 15:27:57 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> Em Sun, 13 Sep 2009 15:13:04 +0900
> Nathaniel Kim escreveu:
>
> >
> > 2009. 9. 12., 오전 7:21, Hans Verkuil 작성:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I've started this as a new thread to prevent polluting the
> > > discussions of the
Em Sun, 13 Sep 2009 15:13:04 +0900
Nathaniel Kim escreveu:
>
> 2009. 9. 12., 오전 7:21, Hans Verkuil 작성:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I've started this as a new thread to prevent polluting the
> > discussions of the
> > media controller as a concept.
> >
> > First of all, I have no doubt that everythi
On Sunday 13 September 2009 08:13:04 Nathaniel Kim wrote:
>
> 2009. 9. 12., 오전 7:21, Hans Verkuil 작성:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I've started this as a new thread to prevent polluting the
> > discussions of the
> > media controller as a concept.
> >
> > First of all, I have no doubt that everything
2009. 9. 12., 오전 7:21, Hans Verkuil 작성:
Hi all,
I've started this as a new thread to prevent polluting the
discussions of the
media controller as a concept.
First of all, I have no doubt that everything that you can do with
an ioctl,
you can also do with sysfs and vice versa. That's not
Em Sat, 12 Sep 2009 14:48:23 -0400
Andy Walls escreveu:
> On Sat, 2009-09-12 at 12:54 -0300, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> > Em Sat, 12 Sep 2009 17:12:35 +0200
> > Hans Verkuil escreveu:
>
> > > I'm currently trying to get ivtv media-controller-aware. It's probably the
> > > most complex drive
On Sat, 2009-09-12 at 12:54 -0300, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> Em Sat, 12 Sep 2009 17:12:35 +0200
> Hans Verkuil escreveu:
> > I'm currently trying to get ivtv media-controller-aware. It's probably the
> > most complex driver when it comes to topology that I have access to, so that
> > would b
Em Sat, 12 Sep 2009 17:12:35 +0200
Hans Verkuil escreveu:
> > Why? Nothing stops discussing it there and better prepare a proposal, but,
> > considering all the noise we had after the DVB S2API last year, I don't
> > think
> > we should ever repeat using a conference, where only some of us will
On Saturday 12 September 2009 16:45:35 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> Em Sat, 12 Sep 2009 09:41:58 -0400
> Devin Heitmueller escreveu:
>
> > I respectfully disagree.
>
> Are you suggesting that we should not submit any patches upstream during this
> merge window in order to discuss this? Sorry,
Em Sat, 12 Sep 2009 09:41:58 -0400
Devin Heitmueller escreveu:
> I respectfully disagree.
Are you suggesting that we should not submit any patches upstream during this
merge window in order to discuss this? Sorry, but this is not right with all
the developers that did their homework and submitt
On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab
wrote:
> True. Choosing the better approach is very important since, once merged, we'll
> need to stick it for a very long time.
>
> I saw your proposal of a ioctl-only implementation for the media control. It
> is
> important to have a sysfs
Em Sat, 12 Sep 2009 00:21:48 +0200
Hans Verkuil escreveu:
> Hi all,
>
> I've started this as a new thread to prevent polluting the discussions of the
> media controller as a concept.
>
> First of all, I have no doubt that everything that you can do with an ioctl,
> you can also do with sysfs an
Hi,
Am Freitag, den 11.09.2009, 19:01 -0400 schrieb Andy Walls:
> On Sat, 2009-09-12 at 00:21 +0200, Hans Verkuil wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I've started this as a new thread to prevent polluting the discussions of
> > the
> > media controller as a concept.
> >
> > First of all, I have no doubt
On Sat, 2009-09-12 at 00:21 +0200, Hans Verkuil wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've started this as a new thread to prevent polluting the discussions of the
> media controller as a concept.
>
> First of all, I have no doubt that everything that you can do with an ioctl,
> you can also do with sysfs and vic
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