Re: Thinking outside the box on file systems

2007-08-15 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 09:02:41 PDT, Marc Perkel said: > Kyle, thinking further outside the box, files would no > longer have owners or permissions. Nor would > directories. People, groups, managers, and other > objects with have permissions. You gotta think *way* out of the box to come up with a sy

Re: Thinking outside the box on file systems

2007-08-15 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:50:17 PDT, Marc Perkel said: > I don't see it as being any worse that what we have > now. To open a file you have to start at the bottom > and open each directory and evaluate the permissions > on the way to the file. In my system you have to look > up the permission of the s

Re: Thinking outside the box on file systems

2007-08-15 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:48:15 PDT, Marc Perkel said: > > Consider the rules: > > > > peter '*a*' can create > > peter '*b*' cannot create > > > > Peter tries to create 'foo-ab-bar' - is he allowed > > to or not? > > > > First - I'm proposing a concept, not writing the > implementation of the con

Re: Testing the Current Upstream Kernel

2007-08-16 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 12:28:34 +0200, Susanne Oberhauser said: > Jan Blunck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > With our openSUSE Build Service we build a daily kernel, where we take > > nightly snapshots of the current upstream development kernel (Linus' kernel > > tree linux-2.6.git) without any pat

Re: Thinking outside the box on file systems

2007-08-16 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:09:16 EDT, Phillip Susi said: > No recursion is needed because only one acl exists, so that is the only > one you need to update. At least on disk. Any cached acls in memory of > descendant objects would need updated, but the number of those should be > relatively small

Re: Thinking outside the box on file systems

2007-08-16 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 13:28:26 EDT, Phillip Susi said: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > What happens if I do a 'mv /home /home1'? Looks like more than a > > "relatively > > small" number. A cold-cache 'find' takes a few minutes to wade through it > > all, > > so any solutions you come up with shoul

Re: [ANNOUNCE][RFC] PlugSched-6.5.1 for 2.6.22

2007-08-16 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 22:42:42 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > i trust you kernel developers know what you are doing, but if scares me > a little bit, that some integral and living part like O(1) being ripped off > and being replaced by something new. There's something even scarier - O(1) being

Re: Thinking outside the box on file systems

2007-08-16 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:24:22 PDT, Marc Perkel said: > And then everything that's stored as /1/2/3/4 is still > the same but the sections resolve to different names. At that point, you need to go re-think your full-pathname permission scheme, because that severely broke it. > I'm sure there are er

Re: [PATCH]: proc: export a processes resource limits via proc/

2007-08-17 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
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Re: Thinking outside the box on file systems

2007-08-17 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 11:19:21 EDT, Phillip Susi said: > Kyle Moffett wrote: >> Problem 1: "updating cached acls of descendent objects": How do you >> find out what a 'descendent object' is? Answer: You can't without >> recursing through the entire in-memory dentry tree. I suspect Kyle is not q

Re: [RFD] iptables: mangle table obsoletes filter table

2007-10-19 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 06:40:02 +0300, Al Boldi said: > Sure, the idea was to mark the filter table obsolete as to make people start > using the mangle table to do their filtering for new setups. The filter > table would then still be available for legacy/special setups. But this > would only be

Re: tristate and bool not enogh for Kconfig anymore

2007-10-20 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 21:17:00 +0200, Sam Ravnborg said: > On Sat, Oct 20, 2007 at 02:42:38PM +0200, Henrik Carlqvist wrote: > > I think there is a need for Kconfig to specify that a functionality could > > be built as a module or not built at all. > > I assume > depends on MODULES > > should

Re: [RFD] iptables: mangle table obsoletes filter table

2007-10-20 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 07:31:58 +0300, Al Boldi said: > > Well, for example to stop any transient packets being forwarded. You could > > probably hack around this using mark's, but you can't stop the implied > > route lookup, unless you stop it in prerouting. > > Basically, you have one big uninten

Re: LSM conversion to static interface

2007-10-25 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 10:34:09 CDT, "Serge E. Hallyn" said: > And he will still be able to *run* the suid binary, but if cap_bound is > reduced he won't be able to use capabilities taken out of the bounding > set, multiadm loaded or not. I am willing to bet that there's still a *lot* of unaudited s

Re: gigabit ethernet power consumption

2007-10-12 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:35:15 PDT, "Kok, Auke" said: > > How much power does a non-connected NIC consume, and can you save power > > by forcing 10 MBit until a link is detected (doubling negotiation time)? > > no, the PHY consumes a minimal amount of energy when not connected, > regardless of > w

Re: What still uses the block layer?

2007-10-16 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 03:04:00 CDT, Rob Landley said: > I note that the eth0 and eth1 names are dynamically assigned on a first come > first serve basis (like scsi). This never causes me a problem because the > driver loading order is constant, and once you figure out that eth0 is > gigabit and eth1

Re: Community research

2007-10-17 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:13:08 PDT, Kristoffer Ericson said: > On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 21:28:42 +1000 > > 536 total / 472 from Hungary / 4 United States / 1 Ukraine / 1 UK / 1 > > Turkey / 2 Sweden / 4 Slovakia / 1 Singapore / 2 Serbia / 2 Russia / 7 > sweden only 2? And how did Hungary get so many deve

Re: [PATCH 2.6.23] SysRq: print hotkey info while pressing undef key, try 2

2007-10-17 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 23:22:58 +0800, Yi Yang said: > SysRq has already provided a similiar help before this patch, but it > is not so clear that the user doesn't know what happened and what > he/she should do. The person is in one of two states: 1) He has been told "recreate the problem, hit alt-

Re: WANTED: kernel projects for CS students

2007-11-02 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 17:44:52 EDT, Lennart Sorensen said: > On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 09:19:11PM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote: Sorry for the late reply, it's been a zoo of a week here... ;) > If it doesn't it seems the compression feature is going to be rather > unpredictable and my optimization would

2.6.23-mm1 breaks C-state support on Intel T7200 x86_64

2007-11-08 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
(Sorry for not reporting this sooner - I haven't been running off battery much in the last 3 weeks, so I didn't notice it till now...) Dell Latitude D820 laptop, T7200 Core2 Duo CPU, x86_64 kernel. As reported by 'powertop' on a basically idle machine: 2.6.23-mm1: CnAvg residenc

Re: 2.6.23-mm1 breaks C-state support on Intel T7200 x86_64

2007-11-09 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 14:30:07 PST, Mark Gross said: > wing patch fixes up the cpuidle / pm-qos integration. > > I suspect that this is folded into another mm patch but it should fix > C-state issue identified. Confirming that patch left my CPUs mostly in C3 again. Thanks. I'll have to let Mark a

2.6.20-rc4-mm1 - cvs merge whoops in git-ioat.patch?

2007-01-17 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
commit d8238afa7eedc047b57da7ec98e98fb051fc4e85 Author: Chris Leech <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri Nov 17 11:37:29 2006 -0800 I/OAT: Add documentation for the tcp_dma_copybreak sysctl Signed-off-by: Chris Leech <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> looks fishy, like a cvs update went bad: diff -puN Docu

Re: "obsolete" versus "deprecated", and a new config option?

2007-01-17 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 11:51:27 EST, "Robert P. J. Day" said: > > in any event, what about introducing a new config variable, > OBSOLETE, under "Code maturity level options"? this would seem to be > a quick and dirty way to prune anything that is *supposed* to be > obsolete from the build, to make

Re: "obsolete" versus "deprecated", and a new config option?

2007-01-17 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 17:04:20 EST, "Robert P. J. Day" said: > > How much of the 'OBSOLETE' code should just be labelled 'BROKEN' > > instead? > > the stuff that's actually "broken." :-) Right - the question is how much code qualifies as either/both, and which we should use when we encounter the

Re: [PATCH] Undo some of the pseudo-security madness

2007-01-22 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 02:23:30 +0300, Samium Gromoff said: > > not "core-dumps" but "core files", in the lispspeak, but anyway. > > the reason is trivial -- if i can write programs enjoying setuid > privileges in C, i want to be able to do the same in Lisp. Go read up on how the XEmacs crew designe

Re: GPL only modules [was Re: [GIT PATCH] more Driver core patches for 2.6.19]

2006-12-20 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 23:57:45 +1100, Marek Wawrzyczny said: > On Sunday 17 December 2006 21:11, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > > Since `works with' may sound a bit too vague, something like > > `LinuxFriendly(tm)', with a happy penguin logo? > > It would be really cool to see penguin logos on hardware

Re: [PATCH 0/5][time][x86_64] GENERIC_TIME patchset for x86_64

2006-12-20 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 20:20:39 EST, john stultz said: > I didn't hear any objections (or really, any comments) on my > last release, so as I mentioned then, I want to go ahead and push this > to Andrew for a bit of testing in -mm. Hopefully targeting for > inclusion in 2.6.21 or 2.6.22. Am

Re: GPL only modules [was Re: [GIT PATCH] more Driver core patches for 2.6.19]

2006-12-20 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 11:29:00 PST, David Schwartz said: > Let's not let the perfect be the enemy of the good. Remember, the goal is to > allow consumers to know whether or not their system's hardware > specifications are available. It's not about driver availability -- if the > hardware specificati

Re: Oops in 2.6.19.1

2006-12-21 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 22:15:50 GMT, Alistair John Strachan said: > Seems pretty unlikely on a 4 year old Via Epia. Never had any problems with it > before now. > > Maybe a cosmic ray event? ;-) More likely a stray alpha particle from a radioactive decay in the actual chip casing - I saw some resear

Re: [PATCH -mm 0/5][time][x86_64] GENERIC_TIME patchset for x86_64

2006-12-21 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 17:13:19 EST, john stultz said: > Andrew, Andi, > > Here is the same patchset from lastnight, re-diffed against -mm This one does indeed apply, compile, and boot. > Thanks to Valdis Kletnieks for pointing out that it didn't apply. Not being a locking ninja

Re: Open letter to Linux kernel developers (was Re: Binary Drivers)

2006-12-21 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 23:06:43 +0100, Giuseppe Bilotta said: > So while what you say is perfectly sensible for *software* developers, > it has absolutely nothing to do with the closed source drivers > *hardware* companies distribute. The problem is that the software drivers reveal an awful lot abou

Re: GPL only modules [was Re: [GIT PATCH] more Driver core patches for 2.6.19]

2006-12-21 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 02:34:54 +1100, Marek Wawrzyczny said: > > > And then there's stuff on this machine that are *not* options, but don't > > matter to me. I see an 'O2 Micro' Firewire in the 'lspci' output. I have > > no idea how well it works. I don't care what it contributes to the score. > >

Re: Binary Drivers

2006-12-21 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 12:50:00 PST, David Schwartz said: > How would you feel if you bought a car and then discovered that the > manufacturer had welded the hood shut? How many people still do their own > oil changes anyway? I know of at least one use case where a car *has* to have the doors welded

Re: Binary Drivers

2006-12-21 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 16:12:57 CST, Scott Preece said: > On 12/21/06, David Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How would you feel if you bought a car and then discovered that the > > manufacturer had welded the hood shut? How many people still do their own > > oil changes anyway? > --- > > But

Re: Network drivers that don't suspend on interface down

2006-12-21 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 22:06:51 EST, Dan Williams said: > It's also complicated because some switches are supposed to rfkill both > an 802.11 module _and_ a bluetooth module at the same time, or I guess > some laptops may even have one rfkill switch for each wireless device. On my Dell D820, it's bio

Re: Open letter to Linux kernel developers (was Re: Binary Drivers)

2006-12-23 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 12:59:21 +0100, Erik Mouw said: > On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 01:16:15PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > At least nVidia *does* actually Get It, they just don't have a choice in > > implementing it, because all their current hardware includes patents that > > they licensed from

Re: Binary Drivers

2006-12-23 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 23:19:09 PST, David Schwartz said: > You can't sell something that doesn't exist. If you sell a car even though > you can't explain how anyone could drive it, that's fraud. Are they allowed to sell a car that incorporates a computer that uses a trade-secret algorithm for contr

Re: evading ulimits

2006-12-23 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 19:42:10 EST, John Richard Moser said: > > > Jan Engelhardt wrote: > >> I've set up some stuff on my box where /etc/security/limits.conf > >> contains the following: > >> > >> @users softnproc 3072 > >> @users hardnproc 4096 > >> >

Re: util-linux: orphan

2006-12-29 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 23:12:51 +0100, Karel Zak said: > For example for my laptop is it true that "life is too short to > enable SELinux", but it's probably not true for servers in the bank where > I have money. (I hope so:-) On the other hand, the case can be made that your laptop needs SELinux

Re: Open letter to Linux kernel developers (was Re: Binary Drivers)

2007-01-01 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 17:09:43 GMT, Alan said: > That IP story is for the most part not even credible. If they were worried > about "software IP" they would release hardware docs and let us get on > with writing drivers that may well not be as cool as theirs but would > work. If they had real IPR in

Re: Open letter to Linux kernel developers (was Re: Binary Drivers)

2007-01-01 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 23:03:27 +1000, Trent Waddington said: > Why don't you release source? To protect the intellectual property. > Well, duh! That's why everyone holds back source. So allow me to > translate.. > > Why don't you release source? Because we don't believe in freedom, we > don't "g

OT Coffee (was Re: Open letter to Linux kernel developers (was Re: Binary Drivers)

2007-01-02 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 20:30:17 +0100, Geert Uytterhoeven said: > > > 2) there had, for a decade prior, been some *700* cases where people > > > had burned themselves with mcdonald's coffee, so it's not as if > > > mcdonald's was unaware of the danger, yet continued to ignore it. > > Given the popul

Re: Open letter to Linux kernel developers (was Re: Binary Drivers)

2007-01-02 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 12:14:54 PST, David Schwartz said: > > > The recommendet _serving_ temperature for coffe is 55 °C or below. > > Nonsense! 55C (100F) is ludicrously low for coffee. > > 70C (125F) is the *minimum* recommended serving temperature. 165-190F is the 100F == 37C 125F == 52C 55C =

Re: OT Coffee (was Re: Open letter to Linux kernel developers (was Re: Binary Drivers)

2007-01-02 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 15:01:56 PST, David Schwartz said: > There is simply no way you can argue that McDonald's failed to warn people > about the risks. The cup says "hot" on it, Actually, the "HOT" on the cup and the sticker in the drive-through that says "Warning: Coffee is served very hot" were a

Re: Symbol links to only needed and targeted source files

2007-01-03 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 22:14:43 +0100, Pelle Svensson said: > Hi Sam, > > You misunderstand me I think, I already using a separate output directory. > What I like to do is a separate 'source tree' with only valid files > for my configuration. In that way, when I use grep for instance, > I would only

Re: The who needs reviews anyways [PATCH]

2007-02-08 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 00:20:49 +0100, Roman Zippel said: > > The point is, neither $BASH nor /bin/bash may be set. > > Is that really a problem? I think any system that has bash without > /bin/bash is simply broken. If you're trying to bootstrap a Linux box onto a new platform from some non-Linux

Re: 2.6.20-mm1

2007-02-15 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 05:14:08 PST, Andrew Morton said: > > Temporarily at > > http://userweb.kernel.org/~akpm/2.6.20-mm1/ > > Will appear later at > > > ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/akpm/patches/2.6/2.6.20/2.6.20-mm1/ git-backlight.patch contains this: +config BACKLIGHT_PRO

Re: [PATCH 0/6] MODSIGN: Kernel module signing

2007-02-15 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 22:14:53 PST, Andreas Gruenbacher said: > I agree, that's really what should happen. We solve this by marking modules as > supported, partner supported, or unsupported, but in an "insecure" way, so > partners and users could try to fake the support status of a module and/or > re

Re: [PATCH 0/6] MODSIGN: Kernel module signing

2007-02-15 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 23:13:45 EST, Dave Jones said: > One argument in its favour is aparently Red Hat isn't the only vendor > with something like this. I've not investigated it, but I hear rumours > that suse has something similar. Having everyone using the same code > would be a win for obvious r

Re: [PATCH 0/6] MODSIGN: Kernel module signing

2007-02-15 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 22:32:40 +0100, Adrian Bunk said: > There are different opinions whether the "complete source code" of the > GPLv2 includes in such cases public keys, making it questionable whether > your example will survive at court in all jurisdictions. It's no less shaky than the whole E

Re: GPL vs non-GPL device drivers

2007-02-16 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 09:32:30 EST, "linux-os (Dick Johnson)" said: > There are a lot of device drivers that will never make it into the > mainline kernel because they are for one-of-a-kind devices or boards > that companies embed into their products. Nobody would even want a > copy of the software t

Re: GPL vs non-GPL device drivers

2007-02-16 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 22:25:12 PST, v j said: > > It's written in black and white, in the license. > > Please point me to where it says I cannot load proprietary modules in > the Kernel. Nobody can point you there, because it doesn't say that anywhere. What you do to *your* kernel is *your* busine

Re: GPL vs non-GPL device drivers

2007-02-16 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 22:25:12 PST, v j said: (Damn, hit send too soon) > No, just that the trend is disturbing. If enough Kernel Developers > choose to write their Software in a way that prevents others from > using it freely, then that is troubling. Especially when these Kernel > Developers are s

Re: GPL vs non-GPL device drivers

2007-02-16 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 04:44:36 -0200, Alexandre Oliva said: > On Feb 17, 2007, "David Schwartz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Not so. See any of the numerous cases that explain that you cannot own a > > function using copyright. They are saying that because V J did X, he *MUST* > > be taking their c

Re: GPL vs non-GPL device drivers

2007-02-20 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 12:00:51 +0100, Bernd Petrovitsch said: > Flame bait alert: > I heard a talk from an Austrian lawyer an according to his believes (and > I don't know if he is the only one or if there lots of) one must see > from the "users" view if the GPL spreads over or not (and the usual > t

Re: mm snapshot broken-out-2007-01-26-00-36.tar.gz uploaded

2007-01-27 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 13:41:16 PST, Andrew Morton said: > > > On 26/01/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> The mm snapshot broken-out-2007-01-26-00-36.tar.gz has been uploaded to > > >> > > >> ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/akpm/mm/broken-out-2007-01-26-00-36.tar

Re: mm snapshot broken-out-2007-01-26-00-36.tar.gz uploaded

2007-01-28 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 13:41:16 PST, Andrew Morton said: > > > >> The mm snapshot broken-out-2007-01-26-00-36.tar.gz has been uploaded to > > > >> > > > >> ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/akpm/mm/broken-out-2007-01-26-00-36.tar.gz > > > I have everything compiling now, mostly. The n

Re: mm snapshot broken-out-2007-01-26-00-36.tar.gz uploaded

2007-01-28 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On 26/01/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The mm snapshot broken-out-2007-01-26-00-36.tar.gz has been uploaded to > > ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/akpm/mm/broken-out-2007-01-26-00-36.tar.gz Aliens ate my brain, part 2: My IPv6 configuration evaporated, totall

Re: mm snapshot broken-out-2007-01-26-00-36.tar.gz uploaded

2007-01-28 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 21:58:26 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > --==_Exmh_1170039506_3335P > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On 26/01/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The mm snapshot broken-out-2007-01-26-00-36.tar.gz has been uploaded to > > > > ftp://ftp.kernel

Re: mm snapshot broken-out-2007-01-26-00-36.tar.gz uploaded

2007-01-28 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 23:08:17 MST, Eric W. Biederman said: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Does it find sys? If so perhaps I should do something even more significant. > I guess if I get many complaints about this I will figure out how to print > out an appropriate error message. It found sys, and

Re: Free Linux Driver Development!

2007-01-30 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 08:33:04 +0100, Bauke Jan Douma said: > Greg KH wrote on 30-01-07 02:29: > An offer they can't refuse. > > > This offer is in affect for all different types of devices, from USB > > toys to PCI video devices to high-speed networking cards. If you build > > it, we can get Linux

Re: Unidentified Intel wifi network card

2007-01-31 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
(Adding Adrian Bunk and Herbert Xu to the cc: list) On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:30:23 CST, Scott Lockwood said: > I'm looking for assistance with a wifi device I can't find a driver for, > the Intel Wireless 3945. > > I"m getting this: > > :0c:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation: Unknown d

Re: Unidentified Intel wifi network card

2007-02-01 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 08:59:47 +1100, Herbert Xu said: > On Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 03:54:55PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Oh - the git-crypto-fix patch has to be applied with -R, I never got around to > > re-diffing it the other way. > > If this driver is still using the old digest inter

Re: [PATCH] Add "is_power_of_2" checking to log2.h.

2007-02-01 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 13:39:15 +0100, Tim Schmielau said: > #define is_power_of_4(x) (is_power_of_2_or_zero(x) \ > && (x & ((typeof(x))0x))) Those 5's are going to need more magic if x is a 64-bit typeof? pgprxmSCgl3W9.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [PATCH] Ban module license tag string termination trick

2007-02-01 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 10:51:23 +1000, Trent Waddington said: > On 2/2/07, Tomas Carnecky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Can't you put this somewhere into the documentation: it's our kernel, > > play by our rules, and our rules are, the license is what is visible in > > 'printf(license)'? > > Here I

Re: 2.6.18-stable release plans?

2007-02-01 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 22:37:20 GMT, Chris Rankin said: > --- Mark Rustad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, do you have ECC memory? If not, it is at least possible that > > that the solar flares that occurred last month may have affected your > > system. > > I am going to assume that you are b

Re: 2.6.18-stable release plans?

2007-02-02 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 01:47:38 EST, Jon Masters said: > I must be weird or something, but I often think about this and the sheer > number of clock cycles executing at any one time around the world. Have > you ever stopped to think how many copies of schedule() (or whatever) > are currently runnin

Re: [RFC][PATCH] Pseudo-random number generator

2006-12-04 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:19:15 +0100, Jan Glauber said: > New s390 machines have hardware support for the generation of pseudo-random > numbers. This patch implements a simple char driver that exports this numbers > to user-space. Other possible implementations would have been: > + for (i = 0; i

2.6.20-rc1-mm1 - another minor Dell Latitude D820 issue...

2006-12-18 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
I'd never have noticed an issue if I hadn't looked in the dmesg for something else, so it isn't a high-priority item.. I admit being fuzzy on what, if anything, even *actually* needs fixing (ISTR for some people, there was some config issue with the transparent bridges being only translucent, but

2.6.20-rc1-mm1 - TPM Follies on Dell Latitude D820

2006-12-18 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
(Yes, I *know* the answer is probably "Get Dell to fix the BIOS settings", but I'll need some more info on exactly what to tell them so it gets fixed right. Scenario - I recently got a Dell Latitude D820 to replace my aging C840. Am running Fedora Core Rawhide in (mostly) 64-bit mode. Folly 1: I

2.6.20-rc1-mm1 suspicious prececence code ( was Re: [PATCH/v2] CodingStyle updates

2006-12-19 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 22:59:12 +0100, Jan Engelhardt said: > I take it that people will automatically DTRT for obscure cases like > shown before. Well, and if they don't, hopefully some reviewer catches > things like 3*i + l<<2. So I hacked up a few very ugly 'find|egrep' to look for some cases of

Re: State of Serial Attached SCSI in linux?

2006-12-19 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 13:28:29 +0100, =?iso-8859-2?Q?Maciej_So=B3tysiak?= said: > Hello, > > I am choosing hardware for new servers that will run Linux hence I would > like to ask whether current SAS support is production grade ? > Any comments on the state of the thing? What, *exactly*, do you mea

Re: [PATCH -mm 8/8] user ns: implement user ns unshare

2007-01-04 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 19:07:00 GMT, Frederik Deweerdt said: > On Thu, Jan 04, 2007 at 12:13:10PM -0600, Serge E. Hallyn wrote: > > From: Serge E. Hallyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: [PATCH -mm 8/8] user ns: implement user ns unshare > > > > Implement CLONE_NEWUSER flag useable at clone/unshare.

Re: [PATCH -mm 8/8] user ns: implement user ns unshare

2007-01-04 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 16:52:53 CST, "Serge E. Hallyn" said: > Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 19:07:00 GMT, Frederik Deweerdt said: > > > > int err = 0; > > > > > > The "= 0" is superfluous here. > > > > Umm? bss gets cleared autom

Re: how can we use assert in non-debug version kernel ?

2007-01-05 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 05:39:19 GMT, Seetharam Dharmosoth said: > can you please give me hint that - > "how can we use assert in non-debug version kernel ?" BUG_ON(your_condition_here); may be what you're looking for? pgppulQ3WnUyt.pgp Description: PGP signature

2.6.20-rc3-mm1 - git-block.patch causes hard lockups

2007-01-06 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 22:02:00 PST, Andrew Morton said: > > ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/akpm/patches/2.6/2.6.20-rc3/2.6.20-rc3-mm1/ With git-block.patch applied, my system locks up *hard* at system shutdown time - even alt-sysrq doesn't do anything. Need to do the "power bu

Re: 2.6.20-rc3-mm1 - rewrite-lock-in-cpufreq-to-eliminate-cpufreq-hotplug-related-issues.patch

2007-01-06 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 22:02:00 PST, Andrew Morton said: > > ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/akpm/patches/2.6/2.6.20-rc3/2.6.20-rc3-mm1/ One of these 3 patches: rewrite-lock-in-cpufreq-to-eliminate-cpufreq-hotplug-related-issues.patch rewrite-lock-in-cpufreq-to-eliminate-cpufreq-

2.6.20-rc3-mm1 - reiser4-sb_sync_inodes.patch causes boot hang

2007-01-06 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 22:02:00 PST, Andrew Morton said: > > ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/akpm/patches/2.6/2.6.20-rc3/2.6.20-rc3-mm1/ reiser4-sb_sync_inodes.patch causes my system to lock hard (no alt-sysrq, need to power cycle) *very* early in the boot - earlyprintk hasn't fir

Re: 2.6.20-rc3-mm1 - reiser4-sb_sync_inodes.patch causes boot hang

2007-01-06 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 11:14:21 PST, Andrew Morton said: > > Yeah, that's an akpm screwup, sorry. > > Take a peek in > http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/akpm/patches/2.6/2.6.20-rc3/2.6.20-rc3-mm1/hot-fixes/ Confirming that reiser4-sb_sync_inodes-fix.patch fixes my problem. pgpN1BlvAVF6

Re: 2.6.20-rc3-mm1 - rewrite-lock-in-cpufreq-to-eliminate-cpufreq-hotplug-related-issues.patch

2007-01-06 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 17:59:06 +0100, Mattia Dongili said: > On Sat, Jan 06, 2007 at 08:44:51AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > One of these 3 patches: > > > > rewrite-lock-in-cpufreq-to-eliminate-cpufreq-hotplug-related-issues.patch > Does the following help? > > Signed-off-by: Mattia Dongili

Re: OT: character encodings (was: Linux 2.6.20-rc4)

2007-01-08 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 01:38:57 +0100, Willy Tarreau said: > it's clearly the proof of a flaw in the initial design. And I'm not even > discussing the stupidity which requires that you read a whole text to get > its number of characters ! It's no more stupid than the *current* situation with Linux ke

Re: [PATCH] include/linux/slab.h: new KFREE() macro.

2007-01-08 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 01:06:12 PST, Amit Choudhary said: > I do not see how a double free can result in _logical_wrong_behaviour_ of the > program and the > program keeps on running (like an incoming packet being dropped because of > double free). Double > free will _only_and_only_ result in system

Re: 2.6.20-rc3-mm1 - git-block.patch causes hard lockups

2007-01-09 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 09:55:24 +0100, Jens Axboe said: > On Sat, Jan 06 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 22:02:00 PST, Andrew Morton said: > > > > > ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/akpm/patches/2.6/2.6.20-rc 3/2.6.20-rc3-mm1/ > > > > With git-block.patch applied

Re: mprotect abuse in slim

2007-01-09 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 17:38:25 EST, Mimi Zohar said: > revoked. Based on previous comments on lkml, we understand > that this is not really possible in general, so SLIM only > attempts to revoke access in certain simple cases. Which, unfortunately, creates incredibly brittle code when some attacker

Re: [PATCH] include/linux/slab.h: new KFREE() macro.

2007-01-09 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 11:02:35 PST, Amit Choudhary said: > Correct. And doing kfree(x); x=NULL; is not hiding that. These issues can > still be debugged by > using the slab debugging options. One other benefit of doing this is that if > someone tries to > access the same memory again using the vari

Re: Gaming Interface

2007-01-09 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 11:08:57 EST, Lennart Sorensen said: > Why not start by suggesting using standard api's instead when writing > the original game engine. That would make porting it easier later. > DirectX is not a standard api. When it's installed on 95% of the computers, it's a de-facto stand

Re: [PATCH] include/linux/slab.h: new KFREE() macro.

2007-01-09 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 16:00:51 PST, Amit Choudhary said: > What did you understand when I wrote that "if you access the same memory > again using the variable > 'x"? > > Using variable 'x' means using variable 'x' and not variable 'y'. Right - but in real-world code, 'y' is the actual problem. >

Re: 2.6.20-rc3-mm1 - git-block.patch causes hard lockups

2007-01-12 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On , [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 22:02:00 PST, Andrew Morton said: > > > > > ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/akpm/patches/2.6/2.6.20-rc3/2.6.20-rc3-mm1/ Still seeing this in -rc4-mm1.. > With git-block.patch applied, my system locks up *hard* at system shutdow

Re: Choosing a HyperThreading/SMP/MultiCore kernel ?

2007-01-12 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 10:03:49 EST, Lennart Sorensen said: > > I would expect any distribution should work on these (as long as the > kernel they use isn't too old.). Of course if it is a Mac, you need a > distribution that supports their firmware (which is of course not a PC > bios). As long as yo

Re: Choosing a HyperThreading/SMP/MultiCore kernel ?

2007-01-13 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 15:18:31 EST, Bill Davidsen said: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 10:03:49 EST, Lennart Sorensen said: > >> I would expect any distribution should work on these (as long as the > >> kernel they use isn't too old.). Of course if it is a Mac, you need a > >> di

Re: Choosing a HyperThreading/SMP/MultiCore kernel ?

2007-01-13 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 12:54:43 EST, Lennart Sorensen said: > On Fri, Jan 12, 2007 at 10:38:43PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > CONFIG_MCORE2=y > > Oh good. Makes life much simpler for users. After writing that, I actually went back and *checked* the fine print. It turns out that unless you ha

Re: CIFS close with pending writes

2006-11-16 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:29:53 +0100, Christian said: I was hitting this under 2.6.19-rc5-mm1 as well: > [ 7190.693567] CIFS does not yet support partial page writes on O_WRONLY files I get that one even without "heavy stressing" - just doing a CIFS mount of a share from our NetApp and trying to c

Friends dont let friends use GCC -W (was Re: [PATCH] Don't compare unsigned

2006-11-28 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 23:17:13 +0100, Jesper Juhl said: > In kernel/sys.c::sys_prctl() the argument named 'arg2' is very clearly > of type 'unsigned long', and when compiling with "gcc -W" gcc also warns : > kernel/sys.c:2089: warning: comparison of unsigned expression < 0 is always > false > > So

Re: [patch-mm 00/25] High resolution timer updates and x86_64 support - V2

2007-06-18 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 10:36:00 -, Thomas Gleixner said: > The following patch series contains: > > - dyntick bugfixes for -mm (caused by the cpuidle changes in ACPI) > > - updates and improvements to high resolution timer / dynticks > > - high resolution timer / dynticks support for x86_64 A

Re: [patch-mm 00/25] High resolution timer updates and x86_64 support - V2

2007-06-18 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 13:24:33 PDT, "Pallipadi, Venkatesh" said: > >state2/time: -159524787 > >state2/usage: 15007443 > > > > The problem is powertop only understands /proc/acpi/processor/CPU*/power > for > and not /sys..cpuidle for the moment. > > I had a patch in recent cpuidle fixes series that

Re: [patch-mm 00/25] High resolution timer updates and x86_64 support - V2

2007-06-19 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 17:49:44 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > A quick check shows that the keep_proc_acpi_power_around_001.patch from > rc5-hrt will apply to rc4-mm2-hrt - I'll give that a try tonight and report > back... Confirming - I backported that patch from rc5-hrt to rc4-mm2-hrt, and now pow

Re: [RFC/PATCH] Documentation of kernel messages

2007-06-13 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 17:06:57 +0200, holzheu said: > They are used to that, because all other operating systems on that > platform like z/OS, z/VM or z/VSE have message catalogs with detailed > descriptions about the semantics of the messages. 25 years ago, I did OS/MVT and OS/VS1 for a living, so

Re: [RFC/PATCH] Documentation of kernel messages

2007-06-13 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 12:04:56 PDT, Joe Perches said: > I believe it better to simply add __FILE__ & __LINE__ to the > macro rather than some other externally specified unique > identifier that adds developer overhead and easily gets stale. There's been plenty of times I've wished for that. Now if

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-13 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 23:40:47 -0300, Alexandre Oliva said: > On Jun 13, 2007, Daniel Hazelton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > (and, in the case of a TiVO, the signing > > keys are part of the installation, not the running or building. > > Is installation not a precondition for running? If a com

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-13 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 04:56:40 +0200, Adrian Bunk said: > Reality check: > > Harald convinced companies that they have to provide the private keys > required to run the Linux kernel they ship on their hardware. No, the *real* reality check: The operative words here are "convinced companies" - as

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