Re: /proc/config idea

2001-04-03 Thread Ben Ford
J . A . Magallon wrote: > On 04.03 David Lang wrote: > >> if the distro/sysadmin _always_ installs the kernel the 'right way' then >> the difference isn't nessasarily that large, but if you want reliability >> on any system it may be worth loosing a page or so of memory (hasn't >> someone said t

Re: Minor 2.4.3 Adaptec Driver Problems

2001-04-03 Thread Ben Ford
Giuliano Pochini wrote: >> I just got 2.4.3 up a running (on Abit BP6 Dual Celeron ) and >> it reorderd my SCSI id's. Take a look. I don't like that my ZIP drive >> becomes sda because if I ever remove it then I'll @#$% my harddrive dev >> mappings again and have to change them again. Adaptec Dri

Re: /proc/config idea

2001-04-03 Thread Ben Ford
J . A . Magallon wrote: > On 04.03 Ben Ford wrote: > >> J . A . Magallon wrote: >> >>> If this has not been done for System.map, that is a much more important >>> info for debug and oops, and the de facto standard is to put it aside >>> kernel

Re: goodbye

2001-04-08 Thread Ben Ford
john slee wrote: > On Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 07:07:20PM -0700, Colonel wrote: > >> Some ISPs rely on crap software & OS to process email, and have other > > > so you don't use those ISPs Some people don't have a choice of ISPs. Some people are lucky if they can even *get* dial-up. -b - To

Re: Let init know user wants to shutdown

2001-04-16 Thread Ben Ford
Simon Richter wrote: >On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, Pavel Machek wrote: > >>>Then a more general user space tool could be used that would do policy >>>appropriate stuff, ending with init 0. >>> >>init _is_ the tool which is right for defining policy on such issues. >> >>Take a look how UPS managment is ha

Re: Kernel 2.5 Workshop RealVideo streams -- next time, please get better audio.

2001-04-16 Thread Ben Ford
Randolph Bentson wrote: >On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 05:45:31PM -0700, Miles Lane wrote: > >>There is one major shortcoming of the recordings. >>Usually, only the comments of the presenter(s) >>can be heard. >> > >I've heard of conferences where a wireless audience >microphone was put inside a Nerf b

Re: Current status of NTFS support

2001-04-20 Thread Ben Ford
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >Where does write support for NTFS stand at the moment? I noticed that it's >still marked "Dangerous" in the kernel configuration. This is important to me >because it looks like I'll have to start using it next week. My office laptop >is going to be "upgraded" from W

Re: [LONG RANT] Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-17 Thread Ben Ford
Jacob Luna Lundberg wrote: >> Speaking as a Linux _USER_, if this happens, can I get said print >> engine working on my ARM machines with these closed source drivers? >> Can Alpha users get this print system working? Can Sparc uses >> get it working? What? I can't? They can't? Well, its no g

Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-17 Thread Ben Ford
> > On the other hand, they make excellent mice. The mouse wheel and > the new optical mice are truly innovative and Microsoft should be > commended for them. > The wheel was a nifty idea, but I've seen workstations 15 years old with optical mice. It wasn't MS's idea. -b - To unsubscribe f

Re: More modutils: It's probably worse.

2000-11-14 Thread Ben Ford
Olaf Kirch wrote: > sure request_module _does_not_ accept funky module names. Why allow > people to shoot themselves (and, by extension, all other Linux users > out there) in the foot? I thought that was the whole purpose of Unix/Linux? -b - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubs

Re: test11-pre6 still very broken

2000-11-17 Thread Ben Ford
Here is lspci output from the laptop in question. Is this not UHCI? [ben@Juanita ben]$ /sbin/lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX - 82443BX/ZX Host bridge (rev 03) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX - 82443BX/ZX AGP bridge (rev 03) 00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporati

Re: BTTV detection broken in 2.4.0-test11-pre5

2000-11-19 Thread Ben Ford
Christer Weinigel wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write: > >On Sun, 19 Nov 2000, Alexander Viro wrote: > >> On Sun, 19 Nov 2000, David Lang wrote: > >> > there is a rootkit kernel module out there that, if loaded onto your > >> > system, can make it almost impossible to detect that yo

Re: BTTV detection broken in 2.4.0-test11-pre5

2000-11-19 Thread Ben Ford
Alexander Viro wrote: > On Sun, 19 Nov 2000, Christer Weinigel wrote: > > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write: > > >On Sun, 19 Nov 2000, Alexander Viro wrote: > > >> On Sun, 19 Nov 2000, David Lang wrote: > > >> > there is a rootkit kernel module out there that, if loaded onto your > > >>

Re: Defective Red Hat Distribution poorly represents Linux

2000-11-20 Thread Ben Ford
Tigran Aivazian wrote: > > 3) edit /etc/ftpusers to allow root ftp > > 4) edit /etc/pam.d/login and /etc/pam.d/rlogin to comment out securetty > PAM module (so we can telnet as root on _any_ tty) Not into security are you? -b - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux

Re: Defective Red Hat Distribution poorly represents Linux

2000-11-20 Thread Ben Ford
Ya, I also had a system that ran many OS's great, including Linux, Win98, Win2k, etc. However when I went to install NT on it, the CPU overheated every time. Ya, I know, doesn't make sense, but that's how it was. -b John Jasen wrote: > On Mon, 20 Nov 2000, Charles Turner, Ph.D. wrote: > > >

Re: out of swap

2000-11-28 Thread Ben Ford
Jakob Østergaard wrote: > comments, Riel or Andrea ?). I don't know of any good solution to this problem > other than just having enough swap space - after all, seriously, with today's > disks, who can't spare an extra few hundred megs (which would usually be more > than enough). An embedded

Re: hang ftp connections...

2000-11-01 Thread Ben Ford
I have a very similar problem. I am running test10-pre5 (x86). I can accept uploaded FTP all day long, but when downloading from me, my network dies in very short order. This was a windows box that was killing me (both ME and 2000). These are about 100 2-4 meg files that I'm talking about. I

Re: non-gcc linux? (was Re: Where did kgcc go in 2.4.0-test10?)

2000-11-02 Thread Ben Ford
Tim Riker wrote: > Alan Cox wrote: > > > > > 1. There are architectures where some other compiler may do better > > > optimizations than gcc. I will cite some examples here, no need to argue > > > > I think we only care about this when they become free software. > > This may be your belief, but I

Re: Linux-2.4.0-test10

2000-11-03 Thread Ben Ford
I have this problem also. I am running vesafb and X4.01 w/ a voodoo3500. Switching to a vc sometimes gives you black text (hiliting w/ mouse fixes it) and alternating green and red pixels across the top of the screen. -b [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 07:38:56PM +0100, Rag

Re: xterm: no available ptys

2000-11-06 Thread Ben Ford
(ben@qwerty)-(12:52pm Mon Nov 6)-(/dev) $ ls ptys* ptys0 ptys2 ptys4 ptys6 ptys8 ptysa ptysc ptyse ptys1 ptys3 ptys5 ptys7 ptys9 ptysb ptysd ptysf -b Paul Powell wrote: > Hello, > > I have created a trimmed down /dev directory to be > used with my custom bootable Linux CD. I've

Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux Kernel ORB: kORBit

2000-12-08 Thread Ben Ford
Chris Lattner wrote: > This email is here to announce the availability of a port of ORBit (the > GNOME ORB) to the Linux kernel. This ORB, named kORBit, is available from > our sourceforge web site (http://korbit.sourceforge.net/). A kernel ORB > allows you to write kernel extensions in CORBA a

Re: Linux should better cope with power failure

2001-03-19 Thread Ben Ford
> Actually, I think /etc/mtab is not needed at all. Originally, UNIX > used to put as much onto the disk (and not in "core") as possible. > so much state information related only to one boot-cycle was > taken out of kernel and stored on disk. /var/run/utmp, /etc/mtab, > , rmtab, and many other

[Fwd: Problem with file => 2GB]

2001-03-19 Thread Ben Ford
This is forwarded from the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list. I think you guys can answer this question better. Please cc: them in any replies. -b "Fabio Pietrosanti (naif)" wrote: > Hi ppl, > i'm currently involved in the analisys of a compromised linux box. > It was a IBM xSeries server. > >

Re: Linux Worm (fwd)

2001-03-26 Thread Ben Ford
What company was it that you worked for? I'm sure we could convince them otherwise . . . . -b Gregory Maxwell wrote: > On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 10:07:22AM -0500, Richard B. Johnson wrote: > [snip] > >> I have just received notice that my machines will no longer be >> provided access to "The

Re: ATAPI burner and IDE SCSI emulation

2001-03-26 Thread Ben Ford
I believe this has more to do with how the author of cdrecord chose to implement it rather than the kernel. Why don't you speak to him? -b Andreas Franck wrote: > Hello people, > > after having "upgraded" (?) my distro from my wonderfully hand-configured > Debian system (which I unfortunate

Re: Disturbing news..

2001-03-28 Thread Ben Ford
Jesse Pollard wrote: > On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Shawn Starr wrote: > >> Well, why can't the ELF loader module/kernel detect or have some sort of >> restriction on modifying other/ELF binaries including itself from changing >> the Entry point? >> >> There has to be a way stop this. WHY would anyone

Re: Disturbing news..

2001-03-28 Thread Ben Ford
Simon Williams wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Olivier Galibert > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes > >> On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 03:04:46PM +0100, Simon Williams wrote: >> >>> I think their point was that a program could only change permissions >>> of a file that was owned by the same owner.

Re: New directions for kernel development

2001-04-01 Thread Ben Ford
Chris Meadors wrote: > On Sun, 1 Apr 2001, David Riley wrote: > >> Linus Torvalds wrote: >> >> Uhm, yeah... I don't know who wrote this, but it came from Washington >> state and was written with MS Outlook... Something tells me that this >> April Fool's joke wasn't Linus'. :-) > > > Yeah

Re: bug database braindump from the kernel summit

2001-04-01 Thread Ben Ford
Why not have the /proc/config option but instead of being plain text, make it binary with a userspace app that can interpret it? It could have a signature as to kernel version + patches and the rest would be just bits. Instead of: CONFIG_X86=y CONFIG_ISA=y # CONFIG_SBUS is not set CONFIG_UID1

[Fwd: [Copyright/Licensing] "Dual-copyright/licensing" of your IP withOUT your permission]

2001-04-02 Thread Ben Ford
What do people think about this? -b Original Message Subject: [Copyright/Licensing] "Dual-copyright/licensing" of your IP withOUT your permission Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 12:39:31 -0400 From: Bryan-TheBS-Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] O

Re: 2.4.1-test10

2001-01-23 Thread Ben Ford
Jeff Garzik wrote: > David Ford wrote: > > > > Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > > > The ChangeLog may not be 100% complete. The physically big things are the > > > PPC and ACPI updates, even if most people won't notice. > > > > > > Linus > > > > > > > > > > > > pre10: > > > - got

Re: Total loss with 2.4.0 (release)

2001-01-23 Thread Ben Ford
Mark I Manning IV wrote: > > > > > > > I think that your linux's partition has not been overwritten, but only the MBR > > > > of your disk, so you probably just need to reinstall lilo. Insert your > > > > installation bootdisk into your pc, then skip all the setup stuff, but the > > > > choose of

Re: ECN: Clearing the air (fwd)

2001-01-28 Thread Ben Ford
James Sutherland wrote: > I'm sure we all know what the IETF is, and where ECN came from. I haven't > seen anyone suggesting ignoring RST, either: DM just imagined that, > AFAICS. > > The one point I would like to make, though, is that firewalls are NOT > "brain-damaged" for blocking ECN: accordi

Re: ECN: Clearing the air (fwd)

2001-01-28 Thread Ben Ford
James Sutherland wrote: > On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, Ben Ford wrote: > > > James Sutherland wrote: > > > > > I'm sure we all know what the IETF is, and where ECN came from. I haven't > > > seen anyone suggesting ignoring RST, either: DM just imagined t

Re: Multiplexing mouse input

2001-01-30 Thread Ben Ford
You are probably talking about an Xfree issue. And yes it can be done. I know several people that do that. Refer to the XFree86 website. -b Dax Kelson wrote: > My laptop has a touchpad builtin with two buttons, I also have an external > PS2 and/or USB mouse (3 buttons with scroll wheel). >

Re: Better battery info/status files

2001-02-04 Thread Ben Ford
David Woodhouse wrote: > On Sun, 4 Feb 2001, James Sutherland wrote: > > > For the end-user, the ability to see readings in other units would be > > useful - how many people on this list work in litres/metres/kilometres, > > and how many in gallons/feet/miles? Probably enough in both groups that

Re: Better battery info/status files

2001-02-04 Thread Ben Ford
David Woodhouse wrote: > On Sun, 4 Feb 2001, James Sutherland wrote: > > On Sun, 4 Feb 2001, Ben Ford wrote: > > > David Woodhouse wrote: > On Sun, 4 Feb 2001, James Sutherland wrote: > > > For the end-user, the ability to see readings in other units would be &

Re: test

2001-02-11 Thread Ben Ford
Roger Larsson wrote: > OK, you had to... > > I have not seen any emails from linux-kernel for some days. > Even tried to resubscribe - Majordomo succeeded in sending me the Confirmation > > But nothing... > I must be getting all yours then!! Seriously, something's broke, I am getting duplicates

Re: CML2 design philosophy heads-up

2001-05-18 Thread Ben Ford
Charles Cazabon wrote: >Eric S. Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Arjan van de Ven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >>>Aunt Tillie doesn't even know what a kernel is, nor does she want >>>to. I think it's fair to assume that people who configure and >>>compile their own kernel (as opposed to using th

Re: [kbuild-devel] Re: CML2 design philosophy heads-up

2001-05-18 Thread Ben Ford
Arjan van de Ven wrote: >"Eric S. Raymond" wrote: > >> >>an old interface in amber do anything to explore new UI possibilities? >> > >kernel != GUI > UI != GUI -- "One trend that bothers me is the glorification of stupidity, that the media is reassuring people it's alright not to know anythi

Re: CML2 design philosophy heads-up

2001-05-19 Thread Ben Ford
Pete Zaitcev wrote: >>[about Aunt Tullie] >>Because, for example, a kernel compile can be a part of the standard >>install now, and you will end up with a kernel built specifically for >>your machine that doesn't print 50 initialization failed messages on boot. >>[...] >>And you can also now ru

Re: CML2 design philosophy heads-up

2001-05-19 Thread Ben Ford
Alan Cox wrote: >>Second, how many kernels does Redhat ship in order to have one for >>386/486/586/k6/Athlon . . . . >>Quite a pain in the ass. And look at how much shit has to be built in >>in order to get a kernel that works for everybody! People bitch at >>Microsoft for doing it, then tur

Re: [kbuild-devel] Re: CML2 design philosophy heads-up

2001-05-20 Thread Ben Ford
Mike Castle wrote: >On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 02:29:17AM +0200, Jes Sorensen wrote: > >>distributions). 18 months is more realistic for it to be deployed >>widely enough. >> > >People who are going to be savvy enough to install a development 2.5.* >kernel that is defining a new configuration utilit

Re: One more ZDNet article with BillG hammering Linux and Open Source.

2001-06-22 Thread Ben Ford
Miles Lane wrote: >http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2777283,00.html > [ . . . ] > >BillG -- We keep making it easier and easier, and anything people want source >code for, we'll figure out a way to get it to them. It's kind of a strange >thing in a way because most commercial custom

Re: mounting a fs in two places at once?

2001-06-25 Thread Ben Ford
Marty Leisner wrote: > >/dev/hda10 on /mnt type ext2 (rw) >/dev/hda10 on /home type ext2 (rw) > > >Is this a feature or a bug? > Feature. It actually makes it quite nice when you want to allow chrooted user(s) access to a common directory, you just mount a partition in all the users home dirs

Re: The Joy of Forking

2001-06-25 Thread Ben Ford
Rick Hohensee wrote: >>desktops to worry about. Desktops are an application, not part of Linux at all >>It is becoming better for the administrator. As better desktops are developed, >>it is becoming for "user friendly". >> > >Thanks for replying civilly to something you clearly don't agree with.

Re: mounting a fs in two places at once?

2001-06-27 Thread Ben Ford
Chris Wedgwood wrote: >On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 02:20:16AM -0700, Ben Ford wrote: > >>Feature. It actually makes it quite nice when you want to allow >>chrooted user(s) access to a common directory, you just mount a >>partition in all the users home dirs. >> >

Re: Uncle Sam Wants YOU!

2001-07-01 Thread Ben Ford
Paul Mundt wrote: >On Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 01:35:24PM -0400, Adam Schrotenboer wrote: > >>So as a user you are free to not use M$ products. >>What if you are IT. Then you do not have a choice. >> >You always have a choice, work elsewhere. If you're in a position where you're >working with MS prod

Re: Uncle Sam Wants YOU!

2001-07-01 Thread Ben Ford
Jesse Pollard wrote: >On Sun, 01 Jul 2001, Jesse Pollard wrote: > >>On Sun, 01 Jul 2001, Kurt Maxwell Weber wrote: >> >>>I'll just have to decide which I value more. As long as I won't be killed >>>for using a different OS, I still have a choice. >>> >>No, but you might be forced out of a job.

Re: Uncle Sam Wants YOU!

2001-07-01 Thread Ben Ford
> > >It's hard to understand the point of such arguments. Surely you shouldn't >be upset at someone for providing you the best option you have, should you? > The point is they aren't offering the best solution! They are taking away all others! That is why people dislike the company. -b -- :

Re: Uncle Sam Wants YOU!

2001-07-01 Thread Ben Ford
Paul Mundt wrote: >On Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 04:50:44PM -0700, Ben Ford wrote: > >>Name a single tech company anywhere in the world that doesn't have to >>deal with microsoftisms. >> >This depends on your definition of dealing with MSisms. If you mean having a &

Re: Kernel HOWTO update?

2001-07-04 Thread Ben Ford
Shawn Starr wrote: >Section: >7.6 You forgot to run LILO, or system doesn't boot at all > >You might want to update the following line: > >"Using LILO with big drives (more than 1024 cylinders) can cause problems. >See the LILO mini-HOWTO or documentation for help on that." > >This isn't true any

Re: Cosmetic JFFS patch.

2001-06-30 Thread Ben Ford
David Woodhouse wrote: > >Also consider the question "What was the last thing you see on screen >before it reboots?" > USER: A bunch of words. TECH: What words? USER: Dunno, there were a lot though. ;) -b -- :__o : -\<, : 0/ 0 --- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: [PATCH] Single user linux

2001-04-24 Thread Ben Ford
Tomas Telensky wrote: >But, what I should say to the network security, is that AFAIK in the most >of linux distributions the standard daemons (httpd, sendmail) are run as >root! Having multi-user system or not! Why? For only listening to a port ><1024? Is there any elegant solution? > Yes, mos

Re: [PATCH] Single user linux

2001-04-24 Thread Ben Ford
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >On Tue, 24 Apr 2001, Daniel Stone wrote: > >>Hence, Microsoft Windows. It might not be stable, it might not be fast, it >>might not do RAID, packet-filtering and SQL, but it does a job. A simple >>job. To give Mum & Dad(tm) (with apologies to maddog) a chance to use

Re: [PATCH] CPU hot swap for 2.4.3 + s390 support

2001-05-06 Thread Ben Ford
Dwayne C. Litzenberger wrote: >Hey, this is cool. > >How far away is the capability to "teleport" processes from one machine to >another over the network? Think of the uptime! > It is here. Look at Mosix. -- I'd rather listen to Newton than to Mundie [MS flunkie who made a speech on the evil

Re: Wow! Is memory ever cheap!

2001-05-07 Thread Ben Ford
H. Peter Anvin wrote: >Larry McVoy wrote: > >>On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 12:33:57PM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote: >> >>>Larry McVoy wrote: >>> >Because your original post was "yeah, Bitkeeper is a memory hog but you >can get really cheap non-ECC RAM so just stuff your system with crappy >