[rgooch@ras.ucalgary.ca: Re: devfs config patch]

2000-09-04 Thread Tom Rini
- Forwarded message from Richard Gooch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 23:34:55 -0600 From: Richard Gooch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Tom Rini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: devfs config patch In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Tom Rini writes: > > Hello. I've attached a minor

Re: [patch] string-486.h modified

2000-09-04 Thread Petko Manolov
Alan Cox wrote: > > > However, in 2.5.0 we should apply it, and force it on *all* cpus just > > to test it well. Then in 2.5.10 we should turn it off for > > pentium/MMX+. > > Even original pentium has hardware optimised rep movs fast paths. Its just > a few cpus they disable it via undocumented

Re: [patch] string-486.h modified

2000-09-04 Thread Petko Manolov
Pavel Machek wrote: > > > If your patch doesn't hurt anything, even if it only adds marginal > > performance, I'm pretty sure that Linus will accept it. > > I think patch like this is not safe for 2.4.X-pre. Not necessary. These routines are quite simple so a 1 week period spend in heavy tests

test7: kernel BUG at /usr/src/linux/include/linux/nfs_fs.h:164!

2000-09-04 Thread David Woodhouse
Who wants this? invalid operand: CPU:1 EIP:0010:[] Using defaults from ksymoops -t elf32-i386 -a i386 EFLAGS: 00010282 eax: 0039 ebx: cdfae6c0 ecx: c0288c4c edx: 0001 esi: c14b0c40 edi: ccd55c80 ebp: cf1a4560 esp: cb235e5c ds: 0018 es: 0018 ss: 0018 Process gn

Re: Linux 2.2 - BSD/OS 4.1 ARP incompatibility

2000-09-04 Thread Rogier Wolff
Alan Cox wrote: > > Now when the Linux box a.b.c.1 (with secondary address d.e.f.1) wants to > > talk to the BSD/OS system d.e.f.2 it does > > > > a.b.c.1 arp who-has d.e.f.2 > > That is presumably what your routing table says, that both are reachable via > the ethernet > > > Which d.e.f.2

Re: test7: kernel BUG at /usr/src/linux/include/linux/nfs_fs.h:164!

2000-09-04 Thread Alexander Viro
On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, David Woodhouse wrote: > Who wants this? nfs_file_cred() <- nfs_create_request() <- nfs_update_request() <- nfs_updatepage() <- nfs_commit_write() <- generic_file_write() <- nfs_file_write() <- write(2). Fscked credentials during write(2) on NFS... - To unsubscribe from t

Re: [patch] string-486.h modified

2000-09-04 Thread Petko Manolov
"Richard B. Johnson" wrote: > > > I think patch like this is not safe for 2.4.X-pre. > > > > Not safe only in that there is so much stuff changed all at once > that it'd be a good idea not to change anything that doesn't have to > be changed. I agree. Actually there are no so many changes.

Re: Linux 2.2 - BSD/OS 4.1 ARP incompatibility

2000-09-04 Thread David Ford
Rogier Wolff wrote: > Hmm. Doesn't the spec say something about that you should preferrably > use the "closest" IP number that you can find to communicate with a > host? > > Yes, adding a route to "a.b.c.1 gw d.e.f.1" on the BSD box should > work. > > But having a multi-homed host with a.b.c.1 on

grow_inodes: inode-max limit reached

2000-09-04 Thread Leonid Mamtchenkov
Hello all, as to the problem I described earlier about mysterios growing of the used inodes number - another strange thing happened. Without applying any patch or any changes in the system, the /proc/sys/fs/inode-max was set to 132000. System continued to increase the number in the /proc/sys/fs

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Withdrawl of Open Source NDS Project/NTFS/M2FS forLinux

2000-09-04 Thread Henning P. Schmiedehausen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andre Hedrick) writes: >On 3 Sep 2000, Henning P. Schmiedehausen wrote: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andre Hedrick) writes: >> >> >> >Apology to Jeff, >> >> >I am sorry to here of this, but I know what you mean about microsoft. >> >My and co-worker's code for doing full taskfile a

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Withdrawl of Open Source NDS Project/NTFS/M2FS forLinux

2000-09-04 Thread Henning P. Schmiedehausen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (J. Dow) writes: >> That's B.S. The GPL is a Copyright license; it applies whether or not >> it is in the kernel. Microsoft (or anyone else for that matter) can't >> take your code and use it without consent. The GPL is one way of giving >> consent, with certain strings attac

Behaviour of a cyclic task with HZ = 1024

2000-09-04 Thread Peter Mueller
Hi, I have set the HZ constant to 1024 to increase the select resulution. But the results of my measurements are not as expected. I have a cyclical task (using select for timing) that inverts a parallel port bit in each cycle. I measure the high time with an oszillograph. Here are my results: 1

Re: Linux 2.2 - BSD/OS 4.1 ARP incompatibility

2000-09-04 Thread Andi Kleen
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 10:22:42AM +0800, Andrey Savochkin wrote: > Andi, there may be two reasons of this behavior: > 1. skb that triggered ARP request had a.b.c.1 source, either because >a) the socket had been bound to that address, or >b) preferred source in the routing table is wrong;

Re: MTBF data for linux

2000-09-04 Thread Lech Szychowski
> > We ran 1.2.13lmp for about 1100 days before the box finally got > > turned off - twice around the uptime clock and more > That's must be some kind of unofficial record... I though 400+ days > was pretty neat, but 1100 says is really impressive, especially on a > kernel which has races with jif

Re: Linux 2.2 - BSD/OS 4.1 ARP incompatibility

2000-09-04 Thread Andrey Savochkin
Andi, On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 10:45:06AM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote: > On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 10:22:42AM +0800, Andrey Savochkin wrote: > > Andi, there may be two reasons of this behavior: > > 1. skb that triggered ARP request had a.b.c.1 source, either because > >a) the socket had been bound t

Re: 2.4.0-test8-pre1 is quite bad / how about integrating Rik's VM now?

2000-09-04 Thread Daniel Phillips
Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you >wrote: > > > Well, the bug seems to exactly using the page after a "free_page()". Which > > is always a bug, but at least should be easy to fix. > > > I've considered making "free_page()" a macro something like > > > __free

NFS client option to force 16-bit ugid.

2000-09-04 Thread David Woodhouse
My home directory lives on a SunOS 4.1.4 server, which helpfully expands 16-bit UIDs to 32 bits as signed quantities, not unsigned. So any uid above 32768 gets 0x added to it. This patch adds a mount option to the Linux NFS client to work round this brokenness. I haven't updated the N

Re: Linux 2.2 - BSD/OS 4.1 ARP incompatibility

2000-09-04 Thread Andi Kleen
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 05:06:15PM +0800, Andrey Savochkin wrote: > So, I think that we have to be sure that we use the "best" address for this > destination. > What about an unconditional use of inet_select_addr() or fib_select_addr() > based on prefsrc with inet_select_addr() fallback? It looks

Re: Large File support and blocks.

2000-09-04 Thread Stephen C. Tweedie
Hi, On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 12:09:23AM -0700, Linda Walsh wrote: > Perhaps an "easy" way to go would be to convert block numbers to > type "block_nr_t", then one could measure the difference that 10's of > nanoseconds make against seeks and reads of disk data. You might not find it just taki

Re: Large File support and blocks.

2000-09-04 Thread Stephen C. Tweedie
Hi, On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 01:30:26PM +0300, Matti Aarnio wrote: > > Stephen, could you have a moment to look at the struct buffer_head {} > alignment matters ? And possible configure time change to make the > block number possibly a 'long long' variable ? > Changeing field order mi

Re: Large File support and blocks.

2000-09-04 Thread Stephen C. Tweedie
Hi, On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 09:16:23AM -0700, Linda Walsh wrote: > With all the talk about bugs and slowness on a 386/486/586 -- does anyone > think those platforms will have multi-T disks hooked up to them? Yes. They are already doing it, and the number of people trying is growing rapidly. I

Re: Large File support and blocks.

2000-09-04 Thread Stephen C. Tweedie
Hi, On Thu, Aug 31, 2000 at 05:59:09PM -0400, Richard B. Johnson wrote: > Long long things, even it they work well, are not very nice on 32 bit > machines. For the time being, I'd advise increasing cluster size rather > than using 64 bit values. Doesn't help, because we're talking about numbers

Re: 2T for i386 OT

2000-09-04 Thread Stephen C. Tweedie
Hi, On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 11:36:25PM +0200, Andrea Ferraris wrote: > > I used to think that. Im planning on deploying a 1Tb IDE raid using 3ware > > kit for an ftp site very soon. Its very cheap and its very fast. UDMA > with > > one disk per channel and the controller doing some of the work.

Re: Linux 2.2 - BSD/OS 4.1 ARP incompatibility

2000-09-04 Thread Andrey Savochkin
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 11:22:31AM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote: > On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 05:06:15PM +0800, Andrey Savochkin wrote: > > So, I think that we have to be sure that we use the "best" address for this > > destination. > > What about an unconditional use of inet_select_addr() or fib_select_a

Re: Linux 2.2 - BSD/OS 4.1 ARP incompatibility

2000-09-04 Thread Andi Kleen
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 05:47:00PM +0800, Andrey Savochkin wrote: > On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 11:22:31AM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 05:06:15PM +0800, Andrey Savochkin wrote: > > > So, I think that we have to be sure that we use the "best" address for this > > > destination.

Re: Linux 2.2 - BSD/OS 4.1 ARP incompatibility

2000-09-04 Thread Matthew Kirkwood
On Sat, 2 Sep 2000, Alan Cox wrote: > > I see the point, but it bites sufficiently often that I don't > > understand why there is no interesting in improving this > > behaviour. > > For a large number of scenarios it makes vastly more sense. Please forgive my obtuseness, but I am unable to conce

Re: Linux 2.2 - BSD/OS 4.1 ARP incompatibility

2000-09-04 Thread Andi Kleen
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 10:57:44AM +0100, Matthew Kirkwood wrote: > > > With both interfaces up, it's impossible to apply anti-martian > > > rules to the interfaces, since it's hard to predict which card > > > will answer an ARP request. > > > > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/.../hidden > > So when lightning

[Fwd: Returned mail: see transcript for details]

2000-09-04 Thread David Ford
Alan, this is going too far, don't you think? My server is in the tested/good list w/ orbs. Aren't you following your own advice about properly setting up your MTA to allow good guys and stop bad guys in accord with ORBS DNS? You keep going on about spam and how you don't care if a few messages

Re: [PATCH] 2.2: /proc/config.gz

2000-09-04 Thread Werner Almesberger
Philipp Rumpf wrote: > isn't that what the version string (/proc/version at runtime, start_sys > in the bzImage) is for ? Hmm yes, that should be good enough. > Most architectures can boot ELF images -- defining section names for > .config.gz and the version string in the ELF file can be done in

Re: iptables-1.1.1 and test7

2000-09-04 Thread Rusty Russell
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write: > Hey, > > I've been trying to get iptables to compile and run with kernel > 2.4.0-test7 with absolutly no luck. I have tried patching it with both > the patch that comes with the iptables-1.1.1.tar.bz2 and the patches on > CVS. Could someone tell me w

Hangup: Promise ATA100 (PDC20267) and Quantum disk

2000-09-04 Thread Lars Knudsen
Hi, I have have serious problems using a specific Quantum disk connected to a Promise ATA/100 controller. The disk causing problems is the QUANTUM FIREBALLlct10 30. The disk simply locks up the machine solid during boot at the point where it should report its IRQ (normally 'ide2 at 0x8890-0x88

Re: Suggestion for laptop suspension

2000-09-04 Thread Richard Stallman
Filling memory to zero does not help for my laptop. Perhaps it is weird. But this particular obscure model of laptop is not important. The thing is to handle most laptops, to make suspending faster for most users, and to build it in by default so that it works "out of the box" on most machines.

Re: Long uptime (~1 yr) => broken load averages (2.2.12)

2000-09-04 Thread Jorge Nerin
Neal H Walfield wrote: > > Hello, > > I am running Linux 2.2.12: > > neal@colo:~$ cat /proc/version > Linux version 2.2.12 (root@gondor) (gcc version 2.95.1 19990816 (release)) > #1 Sun Sep 12 00:22:57 EST 1999 > > Starting twelve days ago the load average has increased by one every > twenty-f

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Withdrawl of Open Source NDS Project/NTFS/M2FS forLinux

2000-09-04 Thread David Woodhouse
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > I'm sure that once the FSF is willing to step up, there will be lots > of supporters and sponsors to finance this. Far smaller companies have _already_ got away with not only violating the Linux kernel's GPL, but blatantly encouraging their customers to do so. Why sh

Re: zero-copy TCP

2000-09-04 Thread Alan Cox
> > those pages out of cache which isnt so ideal if the CPU wants > > them. Some of the results are suprisingly counter-intuitive like this > > Does it flush the CPU cache? I thought the CPU just snooped the bus and > updated its cache with new data. In general no. > struct page of course).

Re: test7: kernel BUG at /usr/src/linux/include/linux/nfs_fs.h:164!

2000-09-04 Thread David Woodhouse
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > nfs_file_cred() <- nfs_create_request() <- nfs_update_request() <- > nfs_updatepage() <- nfs_commit_write() <- generic_file_write() <- > nfs_file_write() <- write(2). > Fscked credentials during write(2) on NFS... Is this known and fixed, or just known? -- dwmw2 -

[RAPIDLY MOVING OFF-TOPIC] GPL and binary only drivers [once again] [was: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Withdrawl of Open Source NDS Project/NTFS/M2FS forLinux]

2000-09-04 Thread Henning P . Schmiedehausen
Hi, On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 12:18:10PM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > I'm sure that once the FSF is willing to step up, there will be lots > > of supporters and sponsors to finance this. > > Far smaller companies have _already_ got away with not only violating th

Re: zero-copy TCP

2000-09-04 Thread Jamie Lokier
Alan Cox wrote: > > struct page of course). Note that it doesn't matter if another thread, > > and this includes truncate/write in another thread, clobbers the page > > data. That's just the normal effect of two concurrent writers to the > > same memory. > > Oh it does matter. You might send ou

Re: [patch] string-486.h modified

2000-09-04 Thread Alan Cox
> Alan, can you send me again the list of CPUs you think > is worth using 486 string routines. > Sorry, i lost your previous mail. I suspect it is 486 K5 IDT Winchip Rise NexGen - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in t

Re: Linux 2.2 - BSD/OS 4.1 ARP incompatibility

2000-09-04 Thread Alan Cox
> Please forgive my obtuseness, but I am unable to conceive of > one (beyond checking that your routing is symmetrical :-) Multiple virtual hosts, routing for tunnels > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pleas

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Withdrawl of Open Source NDS Project/NTFS/M2FS forLinux

2000-09-04 Thread Alan Cox
> Far smaller companies have _already_ got away with not only violating the > Linux kernel's GPL, but blatantly encouraging their customers to do so. Wakey wakey. Unless I am misreading this Andre gave/sold them code he wrote all of for task file. > Why should we believe that anyone's actually

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Withdrawl of Open Source NDS Project/NTFS/M2FS forLinux

2000-09-04 Thread Thomas Kraetzig
Dear David, Dear GPL defenders, As former engineering manager at IGEL I woud like to give you some additional information to the situation as far as IGEL is concerned. The German former company IGEL GmbH does not exist any more and belongs now to Infomatec AG (http://www.infomatec.de). Technica

Re: Linux 2.2 - BSD/OS 4.1 ARP incompatibility

2000-09-04 Thread David Luyer
(Alan Cox) (Matt Kirkwood) > > Please forgive my obtuseness, but I am unable to conceive of > > one (beyond checking that your routing is symmetrical :-) > > Multiple virtual hosts, routing for tunnels And how is this in any way broken by arp-ing from the first interface address (in terms of w

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Withdrawl of Open Source NDS Project/NTFS/M2FS forLinux

2000-09-04 Thread Alan Cox
> Unfortunately we can't do much about M-System's low level code > because we are bound by the NDA. We have a good relationship to > M-Systems. Perhaps we can convince them to publish their code as > well, but I can't promise that. That side has been dealt with actually. (drivers/mtp/doc2000.c)

[bug] test8-preX crashes X on APM resume >>>Re: [Fwd: Returned mail: see transcript for details]

2000-09-04 Thread David Ford
Alan Cox wrote: > > My server is in the tested/good list w/ orbs. Aren't you following your own advice > > about properly setting up your MTA to allow good guys and stop bad guys in accord > > with ORBS DNS? > > I get too much junk to care about it. > > Alan How are we supposed to properly cont

Re: Long uptime (~1 yr) => broken load averages (2.2.12)

2000-09-04 Thread Rogier Wolff
Neal H Walfield wrote: > On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 10:34:39AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > Does a top show you any processes running heavy on the box > > > > No, it is 99% idle. ps -auxww |grep D will show you several (12) processes stuck in "D" state. Which those are pro

Re: zero-copy TCP

2000-09-04 Thread Jamie Lokier
Linus Torvalds wrote: > (The "invalidate on write" is the sane way of doing SMP cache coherency, > which is probably why. Trying to have shared dirty cache-lines is just > not a viable option in the end). With DMA from a device -- "snoop and update" still results in only one owner of the dirty ca

2.4.0-test7 stallion.c is in the wrong directory.

2000-09-04 Thread Russell Coker
rjc@lyta:/home/ftp/kern-src/2.4$tar -tvIf linux-2.4.0-test7.tar.bz2 | grep stallion -rw-r--r-- rjc/staff 3939 1999-09-02 20:22:40 linux/include/linux/istallion.h -rw-r--r-- rjc/staff 4563 1999-09-02 20:22:40 linux/include/linux/stallion.h -rw-r--r-- rjc/staff 18411 2000-08-11 19:08:0

RE: [ANNOUNCE] Withdrawl of Open Source NDS Project/NTFS/M2FS forLinux

2000-09-04 Thread Al
>That's B.S. The GPL is a Copyright license; it applies whether or not >it is in the kernel. Microsoft (or anyone else for that matter) can't >take your code and use it without consent. The GPL is one way of giving >consent, with certain strings attached. But they can take the ideas and metho

Re: thread rant

2000-09-04 Thread Stephen C. Tweedie
Hi, On Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 09:41:03PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > On Sat, 2 Sep 2000, Alexander Viro wrote: > > > unlink() and the last munmap()/exit() will get rid of it... > > yep - and this isnt possible with traditional SysV shared memory, and isnt > possible with traditional SysV semap

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Withdrawl of Open Source NDS Project/NTFS/M2FS forLinux

2000-09-04 Thread Igmar Palsenberg
> >You can not go after people for patches. > > Hi, > > >there is no GPL issue. Upon Microsoft's adpotion of the model they will > > of course you can. Just don't release a patch but grab the driver > you're patching against (which is GPL), add your modifications and > release your driver wit

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Withdrawl of Open Source NDS Project/NTFS/M2FS forLinux

2000-09-04 Thread Igmar Palsenberg
Sorry for the last mail. Wrong button. Igmar - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/

RE: [ANNOUNCE] Withdrawl of Open Source NDS Project/NTFS/M2FS forLinux

2000-09-04 Thread Igmar Palsenberg
> But they can take the ideas and methods demonstrated by the code in the > patch. Its not that they are going to take what he wrote and run patch > against their code. They can take a good idea, sit a skilled programmer in a > room and adapt the concepts without a bit of a problem. I call this

Re: zero-copy TCP

2000-09-04 Thread Jes Sorensen
> "Richard" == Richard Gooch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Richard> Andrew Morton writes: >> All of them except the 3c905 provide hardware Rx and Tx >> checksumming of IP, TCP and UDP headers. No 64 bit addressing >> support. Richard> And does the driver support it? Has anyone benchmarked the

Re: zero-copy TCP

2000-09-04 Thread Jes Sorensen
> "Ingo" == Ingo Molnar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ingo> i believe such zero-copy send should only be allowed for drivers Ingo> which can guarantee correct checksums. (ie. cards which do Ingo> Tx-checksums) The other drivers will still copy. I dont think Ingo> this is a problem - the number

Re: zero-copy TCP

2000-09-04 Thread Jes Sorensen
> "Ingo" == Ingo Molnar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ingo> On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Andi Kleen wrote: >> I did the same for fragment RX some months ago (simple fragment >> lists that were copy-checksummed to user space). Overall it is >> probably better to use a kiovec, because that can be more ea

Re: zero-copy TCP

2000-09-04 Thread Jes Sorensen
> "Jamie" == Jamie Lokier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jamie> It's not faster than card->card DMA, which falls out naturally Jamie> from my zero-copy proposal :-) Except that many cards and PCI bridges don't work and you lose the buffering aspect in this case. Jes - To unsubscribe from this

Re: zero-copy TCP

2000-09-04 Thread Jes Sorensen
> "Jamie" == Jamie Lokier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jamie> Nice point! Only valid for TCP & UDP though. Jamie> When people want _real_ low latency, they don't use TCP or UDP, Jamie> and they certainly don't put data checksums at the start. They Jamie> still aim for zero copies. That pas

Re: Suggestion for laptop suspension

2000-09-04 Thread Richard Gooch
Richard Stallman writes: > Filling memory to zero does not help for my laptop. Perhaps it is > weird. > > But this particular obscure model of laptop is not important. The > thing is to handle most laptops, to make suspending faster for most > users, and to build it in by default so that it wor

Re: zero-copy TCP

2000-09-04 Thread Richard Gooch
Jes Sorensen writes: > > "Richard" == Richard Gooch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Richard> Andrew Morton writes: > >> All of them except the 3c905 provide hardware Rx and Tx > >> checksumming of IP, TCP and UDP headers. No 64 bit addressing > >> support. > > Richard> And does the driver s

Re: test8-pre2 fs corruption?

2000-09-04 Thread Rik van Riel
On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Paul Jakma wrote: > On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Thomas Molina wrote: > > > Odd. I started seeing mailbox corruption the day before the first post > > showed up here. Since it was only one list (BUGTRAQ) and I'm still at > > weird. currently my pine crashes on me when i close my bug

Re: zero-copy TCP

2000-09-04 Thread Stephen C. Tweedie
Hi, On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 07:29:56PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Andi Kleen wrote: > > > I did the same for fragment RX some months ago (simple fragment lists > > that were copy-checksummed to user space). Overall it is probably > > better to use a kiovec, because that c

Re: [bug] test8-preX crashes X on APM resume >>>Re: [Fwd: Returned mail: see

2000-09-04 Thread Alan Cox
> How are we supposed to properly contact maintainers and post bugs and solutions when > you're rejecting our mail? Get a mail account that works somewhere with sane policies I don't have time to deal with the vast amounts of spam aimed my way any other way. Period, end of discussion - To unsub

Re: [RFC] my current kernel todo list

2000-09-04 Thread David Woodhouse
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > - convert drivers to new PCI API Don't bother with drivers/char/applicom.c - I've already done it, just waiting to borrow the hardware again to test it. -- dwmw2 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to

Re: [RFC] my current kernel todo list

2000-09-04 Thread Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
Em Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 04:52:59PM +0100, David Woodhouse escreveu: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > - convert drivers to new PCI API > > Don't bother with drivers/char/applicom.c - I've already done it, just > waiting to borrow the hardware again to test it. Ok, up to now I've only did this

Re: Suggestion for laptop suspension

2000-09-04 Thread Pavel Machek
Hi! > Filling memory to zero does not help for my laptop. Perhaps it is > weird. > > But this particular obscure model of laptop is not important. The > thing is to handle most laptops, to make suspending faster for most > users, and to build it in by default so that it works "out of the box"

Re: test8-pre2 fs corruption?

2000-09-04 Thread Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Rik van Riel wrote: > On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Paul Jakma wrote: > > On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Thomas Molina wrote: > > > > > Odd. I started seeing mailbox corruption the day before the first post > > > showed up here. Since it was only one list (BUGTRAQ) and I'm still at > > > > weird

Re: Large File support and blocks.

2000-09-04 Thread Rik van Riel
On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Stephen C. Tweedie wrote: > On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 09:16:23AM -0700, Linda Walsh wrote: > > > With all the talk about bugs and slowness on a 386/486/586 -- does anyone > > think those platforms will have multi-T disks hooked up to them? > > Yes. They are already doing it, a

Re: www.crucial.com won't talk to 2.4.0-test7 system

2000-09-04 Thread Adam
does anyone has so far came out with a standard "form"/letter I can just forward to offending site? It seems another "guilty" site is www.borland.com, while I would like to let them know, I not too eager nor have time right now to come up with a well written rational letter explaining the problem

Re: NWFS [PATCH] File organization 2.2.18 and 2.4.0-7

2000-09-04 Thread Christoph Hellwig
"Jeff V. Merkey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I at present have the NWFS utilities and File System drivers as single > source base. Obviously, the way your tree is organized, the file system > driver proper should be in the kernel tree and the file system utitilies > somewhere else. Yes. > Whe

Re: [RFC] my current kernel todo list

2000-09-04 Thread Tigran Aivazian
On Fri, 25 Aug 2000, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote: > now the driver init sequence is not > serialized anymore, so races are possible since when? In 2.4.0-test8-pre2 mod->init and mod->cleanup are called under global kernel lock. As for static drivers they are initialised from either start_k

Re: test8-pre2 fs corruption?

2000-09-04 Thread Alexander Viro
On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote: > > > > showed up here. Since it was only one list (BUGTRAQ) and I'm still at > > > > > > weird. currently my pine crashes on me when i close my bugtraq > > > folder. > > > > Ohh, so I'm not the only one having trouble reading bugtraq > > la

Re: test8-pre2 fs corruption?

2000-09-04 Thread Meelis Roos
RvR> Ohh, so I'm not the only one having trouble reading bugtraq RvR> lately? ;) Yep. And to make things even more (or less?) confusing: it's happening to me too but on _SOLARIS_, not Linux!!! I'm just now checking my mailbox for a offending letter as I suspect a pine bug. mutt is fine. -- Mee

Allocating my own skbuff data

2000-09-04 Thread Adrian Cox
I'm working on network drivers emulating ethernet over a PCI backplane. For receives I need packet data located in a region of memory visible to the backplane. I also want this data to be referenced by an skb, without the expense of an extra memcpy. This region of memory will be somewhere between

Re: test8-pre2 fs corruption?

2000-09-04 Thread Matthew Kirkwood
On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote: > > > > Odd. I started seeing mailbox corruption the day before the first post > > > > showed up here. Since it was only one list (BUGTRAQ) and I'm still at > > > > > > weird. currently my pine crashes on me when i close my bugtraq > > > fold

Re: why am i seeing a ~60-second network connection delay with 2.4.0test*?

2000-09-04 Thread John Kennedy
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 08:04:49AM +0200, Martin MaD Douda wrote: > I'm using 2.4-test since it was born and never saw this behavior. Could > you please strace and ltrace your ping so we can see where it waits? Can't find source for ltrace, but I have strace. Ping seems to be spending its ti

Re: test8-pre2 fs corruption?

2000-09-04 Thread Thomas Molina
On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote: > > On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Rik van Riel wrote: > > On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Paul Jakma wrote: > > > On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Thomas Molina wrote: > > > > > > > Odd. I started seeing mailbox corruption the day before the first post > > > > showed up here.

Re: zero-copy TCP

2000-09-04 Thread Jes Sorensen
> "Richard" == Richard Gooch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Richard> I thought you said some of the GigE drivers supported this? Richard> Or were you just saying that the GigE cards were some of the Richard> few which supported scatter/gather DMA and IP checksumming? The latter. Jes - To unsub

Re: zero-copy TCP

2000-09-04 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Jamie Lokier wrote: > Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > Basically any copy <= 4 cache lines is "free" compared to trying to be > > clever. > > We're obviously interested in larger packets than 128 bytes. "obviously"? Take a look at some common traffic. Yes, even in servers.

Two VM problems for the 2.4 TODO list

2000-09-04 Thread Stephen C. Tweedie
Hi Ted, To be fixed for 2.4: 1) Non-atomic pte updates The page aging code and mprotect both modify existing ptes non-atomically. That can stomp on the VM hardware on other CPUs setting the dirty bit on mmaped pages when using threads. 2.2 is vulnerable too. 2) RSS locking sw

Re: Linux 2.2 - BSD/OS 4.1 ARP incompatibility

2000-09-04 Thread Julian Anastasov
Hello, Looking in inet_select_addr() it seems that ifa->ifa_local is selected according to the target. So, may be the problem is not that the announced address in the ARP request is the primary address. Someone already selected the primary address before arp_solicit. Because arp_

Re: Allocating my own skbuff data

2000-09-04 Thread Andi Kleen
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 05:25:56PM +0100, Adrian Cox wrote: > I'm working on network drivers emulating ethernet over a PCI backplane. > For receives I need packet data located in a region of memory visible to > the backplane. I also want this data to be referenced by an skb, without > the expense

Re: [RFC] my current kernel todo list

2000-09-04 Thread Tigran Aivazian
Hi Arnaldo, That is a very decent list you have got there. How about to add to it: - go through all filesystems and convert them from using mark_buffer_dirty(bh, [0,1]) to just mark_buffer_dirty(bh) since the flag is now ignored and all buffers are flushed at equal intervals. Also, change the e

stallion.c patch for devfs

2000-09-04 Thread Russell Coker
I made the following patch for the stallion non-intelligent driver based on cut/paste from serial.c. I have tested it and it works, the directories /dev/tte and /dev/cue are correctly created when the module is inserted. Could this please be put in to 2.4.0-test8? Please note that this patch is

Re: stallion.c patch for devfs

2000-09-04 Thread Richard Gooch
Russell Coker writes: > I made the following patch for the stallion non-intelligent driver based on > cut/paste from serial.c. I have tested it and it works, the directories > /dev/tte and /dev/cue are correctly created when the module is inserted. > > Could this please be put in to 2.4.0-test8?

Re: Linux 2.2 - BSD/OS 4.1 ARP incompatibility

2000-09-04 Thread David Luyer
> just try "traceroute -s 111.111.111.111 d.e.f.2" > What shows this simple test? > > arp who-has d.e.f.2 tell a.b.c.1 > > or > > arp who-has d.e.f.2 tell d.e.f.1 When I tried traceroute -s d.e.f.1 d.e.f.2, it worked, the first time the Linux box in question talked to the BSD/OS

Re: test8-pre2 fs corruption?

2000-09-04 Thread Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
Thanks! I really should read every single letter on BUGTRAQ, not on linux-kernel ;) On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Thomas Molina wrote: > > Readers of BUGTRAQ probably have already seen the message indicating > some of us have been seeing library problems, not fs corruption. At > least those of us with pr

Re: [RAPIDLY MOVING OFF-TOPIC] GPL and binary only drivers [onceagain] [was: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Withdrawl of Open Source NDS Project/NTFS/M2FSforLinux]

2000-09-04 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Henning P . Schmiedehausen wrote: [snip] > If I give you a binary-only module which can either be loaded as a > driver or, maybe with some glue code, linked into the kernel and some > instructions how to do this, I am _not_at_all_ in violation of any > GPL. Because I distribut

Re: [RFC] my current kernel todo list

2000-09-04 Thread Alexander Viro
On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Tigran Aivazian wrote: > Hi Arnaldo, > > That is a very decent list you have got there. How about to add to > it: > > - go through all filesystems and convert them from using > mark_buffer_dirty(bh, [0,1]) to just mark_buffer_dirty(bh) since the flag > is now ignored and

Re: [RFC] my current kernel todo list

2000-09-04 Thread Tigran Aivazian
Alexander, I did think of automating it but seeing fat (I am sure you saw it as well) made me think that it is safer to do it by hand. for fat, it is not the second argument but the first from the end (it has three), so your macro approach is somewhat broken. Actually, kernel is such a critical

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Withdrawl of Open Source NDS Project/NTFS/M2FS forLinux

2000-09-04 Thread Andre Hedrick
On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Mark Hahn wrote: > > You and several others know that I stink at describing a complex point > > regardless that I understand it completely. I am just glad that you hung > > in there long enough for me to get the point across. > > Andre, as far as I can tell, this "complex po

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Withdrawl of Open Source NDS Project/NTFS/M2FS forLinux

2000-09-04 Thread Andre Hedrick
On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Theodore Y. Ts'o wrote: > Andre wrote: > > > Linux rejected the code because it does not understand nor does anyone > > have the desire to learn what it does. Since it is not in the kernel > > there is no GPL issue. Upon Microsoft's adpotion of the model they will > > That

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Withdrawl of Open Source NDS Project/NTFS/M2FS forLinux

2000-09-04 Thread Andre Hedrick
On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Alan Cox wrote: > > This it will have to wait for 2.5, but everyone needs to get off the issue > > that it is a filter and understand that it is a command completion > > pre-handler. I hope that you finally understand the point and we do not > > have to fight again, next will

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Withdrawl of Open Source NDS Project/NTFS/M2FS forLinux

2000-09-04 Thread Andre Hedrick
On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Alan Cox wrote: > > Linux rejected the code because it does not understand nor does anyone > > have the desire to learn what it does. Since it is not in the kernel > > there is no GPL issue. Upon Microsoft's adpotion of the model they will > > If its your code there isnt an

Re: [RFC] my current kernel todo list

2000-09-04 Thread John Levon
On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Alexander Viro wrote: > Are you kidding? In nvi: > > [snip vi stuff] another is "cg/vg" (can't remember who wrote it) which is very useful for this sort of thing, if a little slower than vi automagic john -- "This page contains information of a type (text/html) that can

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Withdrawl of Open Source NDS Project/NTFS/M2FS forLinux

2000-09-04 Thread Michael H. Warfield
Andre, On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 10:30:13PM -0700, Andre Hedrick wrote: [...] > WOOHOO, you remember Way to go Alan > You and several others know that I stink at describing a complex point > regardless that I understand it completely. I am just glad that you hung > in there lon

Re: [RFC] my current kernel todo list

2000-09-04 Thread Alexander Viro
On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Tigran Aivazian wrote: > Alexander, I did think of automating it but seeing fat (I am sure you saw > it as well) made me think that it is safer to do it by hand. Umm? What part of grep -nw is going to catch the fat_... stuff? It should be done separately. You _will_ catch t

Re: [RFC] my current kernel todo list

2000-09-04 Thread Tigran Aivazian
On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Alexander Viro wrote: > Erm... You do realize that "by hands" is "by editor commands", don't you? > Notice that it is not a global search and replace - you see the instance, > you decide whether to change it with the long sequence of editor commands > or with the short one. Ye

Re: stallion.c patch for devfs - fixed version checking

2000-09-04 Thread Russell Coker
On Mon, 04 Sep 2000, Richard Gooch wrote: >Russell Coker writes: >> I made the following patch for the stallion non-intelligent driver based on >> cut/paste from serial.c. I have tested it and it works, the directories >> /dev/tte and /dev/cue are correctly created when the module is inserted. >>

Re: stallion.c patch for devfs - fixed version checking

2000-09-04 Thread Richard Gooch
Russell Coker writes: > > --Boundary-=_nWlrBbmQBhCDarzOwKkYHIDdqSCD > Content-Type: text/plain > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Yuk! MIME! > On Mon, 04 Sep 2000, Richard Gooch wrote: > That sounds logical, I have attached a patch that does that change and > changes serial.c (the code I copied

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