Re: mistakes in code vs. maintainer flow mistakes (was: [ 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review)

2013-11-28 Thread Ove Karlsen
Ok, I just revisited the "Sarah Sharp" "no more abuse" blogpost, where I wrote a long comment on the problem she was describing, only to find that my comment was not there. I felt a certain degree of provocation, since this was a serious and honest post, without any kind of abuse, from someone

Re: mistakes in code vs. maintainer flow mistakes

2013-07-22 Thread Joe Perches
On Tue, 2013-07-23 at 09:07 +0800, Li Zefan wrote: > > Perhaps what might help here is a kernel organizational chart. [] > the complete chart will in no doubt break 80 > characters limit. Actually as the hierarchy is quite flat, I can't > image how long the longest line will be. I think it really

Re: mistakes in code vs. maintainer flow mistakes

2013-07-22 Thread Li Zefan
> Perhaps what might help here is a kernel organizational chart. A graph > of who sends pull requests to Linus, and their subsystem maintainers. > For example, in the USB "branch" there would be: > > Linus Torvalds > (Linux kernel release engine

Re: mistakes in code vs. maintainer flow mistakes (was: [ 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review)

2013-07-22 Thread Ingo Molnar
* Ingo Molnar wrote: > [...] > > ... and now you want to 'shut down' the discussion. With all due > respect, you started it, you have put out various heavy accusations here > and elsewhere, so you might as well take responsibility for it and let > the discussion be brought to a conclusion, w

Re: mistakes in code vs. maintainer flow mistakes (was: [ 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review)

2013-07-22 Thread Ingo Molnar
* Sarah Sharp wrote: > On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 11:22:56AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > > > * Sarah Sharp wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:39:07PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > > > > > > > * Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Sarah Sharp > >

Re: mistakes in code vs. maintainer flow mistakes (was: [ 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review)

2013-07-19 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 12:01:27PM -0700, Sarah Sharp wrote: > > I'm not trying to shut down this discussion. But please, let's continue > this discussion at KS, away from the court of public opinion. I would > love for this email to serve as a final summary of my opinion. We can > use this ema

Re: mistakes in code vs. maintainer flow mistakes (was: [ 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review)

2013-07-19 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 19. Juli 2013, 12:01:27 schrieb Sarah Sharp: > On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 11:22:56AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > * Sarah Sharp wrote: […] > "Respect" means different things to different people. Here's a list of > potentially disrespectful behaviors: > > * cussing > * belittling stat

Re: mistakes in code vs. maintainer flow mistakes (was: [ 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review)

2013-07-19 Thread Steven Rostedt
On Fri, 2013-07-19 at 12:01 -0700, Sarah Sharp wrote: > Move on, agree to disagree, and let's discuss this at KS. +1 (Sorry for the reply ;-) -- Steve -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo

Re: mistakes in code vs. maintainer flow mistakes (was: [ 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review)

2013-07-19 Thread Sarah Sharp
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 11:22:56AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > * Sarah Sharp wrote: > > > On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:39:07PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > > > > > * Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Sarah Sharp > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Oh, FFS,

Re: mistakes in code vs. maintainer flow mistakes (was: [ 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review)

2013-07-19 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 11:22:56AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > ... and now you want to 'shut down' the discussion. With all due respect, > you started it, you have put out various heavy accusations here and > elsewhere, so you might as well take responsibility for it and let the > discussion

Re: mistakes in code vs. maintainer flow mistakes (was: [ 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review)

2013-07-19 Thread Ingo Molnar
* Ingo Molnar wrote: > [...] > > Mistakes in patches and code happen all the time. Linus rarely if ever > flamed me for _that_ - sh*t happens. > > What he flames me for, and what you (with all due respect) still don't > seem to understand, are _META_ mistakes. Top level maintainer level > m

mistakes in code vs. maintainer flow mistakes (was: [ 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review)

2013-07-19 Thread Ingo Molnar
* Sarah Sharp wrote: > On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:39:07PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > > > * Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Sarah Sharp > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Oh, FFS, I just called out on private email for "playing the victim > > > > card". I will r