Re: fbcon: remove soft scrollback code (missing Doc. patch)

2021-02-03 Thread Thomas Zimmermann
Hi Am 15.01.21 um 09:06 schrieb Geert Uytterhoeven: Hi Daniel, On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 5:11 PM Daniel Vetter wrote: On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 4:56 PM Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 5:00 PM Daniel Vetter wrote: On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 12:11 AM Linus Torvalds wrote: On Fri

Re: fbcon: remove soft scrollback code (missing Doc. patch)

2021-02-02 Thread Daniel Vetter
On Tue, Feb 02, 2021 at 10:13:14AM -0500, Phillip Susi wrote: > > Daniel Vetter writes: > > > Just a quick comment on this: Since most framebuffers are write-combining, > > and reads from that tend to be ~3 orders of magnitude slower than writes > > (at least on the pile of machines I looked at h

Re: fbcon: remove soft scrollback code (missing Doc. patch)

2021-02-02 Thread Phillip Susi
Daniel Vetter writes: > Just a quick comment on this: Since most framebuffers are write-combining, > and reads from that tend to be ~3 orders of magnitude slower than writes > (at least on the pile of machines I looked at here, there's big > differences, and some special streaming cpu instructio

Re: fbcon: remove soft scrollback code (missing Doc. patch)

2021-02-02 Thread Daniel Vetter
On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 01:55:04PM -0500, Phillip Susi wrote: > > Geert Uytterhoeven writes: > > Judging from some of the comments in the code, it looks like you were > one of the original authors of fbcon? I haven't been able to find any > of these sczbot crash reports, and am not sure how fuzz

Re: fbcon: remove soft scrollback code (missing Doc. patch)

2021-01-26 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
Hi Phillip, On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 8:26 PM Phillip Susi wrote: > Geert Uytterhoeven writes: > Judging from some of the comments in the code, it looks like you were > one of the original authors of fbcon? I haven't been able to find any Indeed, a long time ago... Before DRM existed. > of t

Re: fbcon: remove soft scrollback code (missing Doc. patch)

2021-01-22 Thread Phillip Susi
Geert Uytterhoeven writes: Judging from some of the comments in the code, it looks like you were one of the original authors of fbcon? I haven't been able to find any of these sczbot crash reports, and am not sure how fuzzing syscalls would really affect this code ( it's not really handling a b

Re: fbcon: remove soft scrollback code (missing Doc. patch)

2021-01-15 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
Hi Daniel, On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 5:11 PM Daniel Vetter wrote: > On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 4:56 PM Geert Uytterhoeven > wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 5:00 PM Daniel Vetter wrote: > > > On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 12:11 AM Linus Torvalds > > > wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 11:13 AM Phil

Re: fbcon: remove soft scrollback code (missing Doc. patch)

2021-01-14 Thread Daniel Vetter
On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 4:56 PM Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > > Hi Daniel, > > CC linux-fbdev > > On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 5:00 PM Daniel Vetter wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 12:11 AM Linus Torvalds > > wrote: > > > On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 11:13 AM Phillip Susi wrote: > > > > > Could we pause t

Re: fbcon: remove soft scrollback code (missing Doc. patch)

2021-01-14 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
Hi Daniel, CC linux-fbdev On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 5:00 PM Daniel Vetter wrote: > On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 12:11 AM Linus Torvalds > wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 11:13 AM Phillip Susi wrote: > > > > Could we pause this madness? Scrollback is still useful. I needed it > > > > today... it was

Re: fbcon: remove soft scrollback code (missing Doc. patch)

2021-01-12 Thread Greg Kroah-Hartman
On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 10:00:09AM -0500, Phillip Susi wrote: > > Linus Torvalds writes: > > > It really was buggy, with security implications. And we have no maintainers. > > Could you be more specific? I can't try to fix it if I don't understand > what is wrong with it. Are there any bug rep

Re: fbcon: remove soft scrollback code (missing Doc. patch)

2021-01-12 Thread Daniel Vetter
On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 12:11 AM Linus Torvalds wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 11:13 AM Phillip Susi wrote: > > > > > Could we pause this madness? Scrollback is still useful. I needed it > > > today... it was too small, so command results I was looking for > > > already scrolled away, but... li

Re: fbcon: remove soft scrollback code (missing Doc. patch)

2021-01-12 Thread Phillip Susi
Linus Torvalds writes: > It really was buggy, with security implications. And we have no maintainers. Could you be more specific? I can't try to fix it if I don't understand what is wrong with it. Are there any bug reports or anything I could look at?

Re: fbcon: remove soft scrollback code (missing Doc. patch)

2021-01-08 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 11:13 AM Phillip Susi wrote: > > > Could we pause this madness? Scrollback is still useful. I needed it > > today... it was too small, so command results I was looking for > > already scrolled away, but... life will be really painful with 0 > > scrollback. > > > You'll need

Re: fbcon: remove soft scrollback code (missing Doc. patch)

2021-01-08 Thread Phillip Susi
> Could we pause this madness? Scrollback is still useful. I needed it > today... it was too small, so command results I was looking for > already scrolled away, but... life will be really painful with 0 > scrollback. > You'll need it, too... as soon as you get oops and will want to see > errors j

Re: fbcon: remove soft scrollback code (missing Doc. patch)

2020-09-30 Thread Maciej W. Rozycki
On Fri, 18 Sep 2020, Adam Borowski wrote: > > > Note that scrollback hasn't actually gone away entirely - the original > > > scrollback supported by _hardware_ still exists. > > > > > > Of course, that's really just the old-fashioned text VGA console, but > > > that one actually scrolls not by mo

Re: fbcon: remove soft scrollback code (missing Doc. patch)

2020-09-18 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 10:54:34PM +0200, Pavel Machek wrote: > On Mon 2020-09-14 18:28:34, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > Note that scrollback hasn't actually gone away entirely - the original > > scrollback supported by _hardware_ still exists. > > > > Of course, that's really just the old-fashioned

Re: fbcon: remove soft scrollback code (missing Doc. patch)

2020-09-16 Thread Pavel Machek
On Mon 2020-09-14 18:28:34, Linus Torvalds wrote: > On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 6:19 PM Randy Dunlap wrote: > > > > Now someone can remove the documentation for scrollback (and "no-scroll")... > > Note that scrollback hasn't actually gone away entirely - the original > scrollback supported by _hardwa

Re: fbcon: remove soft scrollback code (missing Doc. patch)

2020-09-14 Thread Randy Dunlap
On 9/14/20 6:28 PM, Bhaskar Chowdhury wrote: > On 18:18 Mon 14 Sep 2020, Randy Dunlap wrote: >> HI-- >> >> On 9/14/20 3:48 PM, Linux Kernel Mailing List wrote: >>> Commit: 50145474f6ef4a9c19205b173da6264a644c7489 >>> Parent: 856deb866d16e29bd65952e0289066f6078af773 >>> Refname:    refs/head

Re: fbcon: remove soft scrollback code (missing Doc. patch)

2020-09-14 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 6:28 PM Bhaskar Chowdhury wrote: > > Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt:no-scroll [VGA] > Disables scrollback. So this one at least should be still valid. But these: > Documentation/fb/fbcon.rst:2. fbcon=scrollback:[k] > Documentation/fb/fbcon

Re: fbcon: remove soft scrollback code (missing Doc. patch)

2020-09-14 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 6:19 PM Randy Dunlap wrote: > > Now someone can remove the documentation for scrollback (and "no-scroll")... Note that scrollback hasn't actually gone away entirely - the original scrollback supported by _hardware_ still exists. Of course, that's really just the old-fashi

Re: fbcon: remove soft scrollback code (missing Doc. patch)

2020-09-14 Thread Bhaskar Chowdhury
On 18:18 Mon 14 Sep 2020, Randy Dunlap wrote: HI-- On 9/14/20 3:48 PM, Linux Kernel Mailing List wrote: Commit: 50145474f6ef4a9c19205b173da6264a644c7489 Parent: 856deb866d16e29bd65952e0289066f6078af773 Refname:refs/heads/master Web: https://git.kernel.org/torvalds/c/50145474

Re: fbcon: remove soft scrollback code (missing Doc. patch)

2020-09-14 Thread Randy Dunlap
HI-- On 9/14/20 3:48 PM, Linux Kernel Mailing List wrote: > Commit: 50145474f6ef4a9c19205b173da6264a644c7489 > Parent: 856deb866d16e29bd65952e0289066f6078af773 > Refname:refs/heads/master > Web: > https://git.kernel.org/torvalds/c/50145474f6ef4a9c19205b173da6264a644c7489 > Auth