Re: about modularization

2007-09-01 Thread Oleg Verych
* Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 15:19:00 +0200 * Received-SPF: softfail (mx3: transitioning domain of elte.hu does not designate 157.181.1.14 as permitted sender) client-ip=157.181.1.14; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; helo=elvis.elte.hu; > If you boot into a distro kernel on > a typical PC, about half of the kerne

Re: about modularization

2007-08-06 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/07/2007 01:35 AM, Rene Herman wrote: On 08/06/2007 11:48 PM, Mitchell Erblich wrote: Of the uni-processor systems currently that can run Linux, I would not doubt if 99.% percent are uni-cores. s/can// and I would. s/uni-processor// additionally and I'd assure you it's untrue. s/un

Re: about modularization

2007-08-06 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/06/2007 11:48 PM, Mitchell Erblich wrote: Of the uni-processor systems currently that can run Linux, I would not doubt if 99.% percent are uni-cores. s/can// and I would. s/uni-processor// additionally and I'd assure you it's untrue. s/uni-cores/non-smt uni-cores/ and I'd do the sam

Re: about modularization

2007-08-06 Thread Mitchell Erblich
Rene, Of the uni-processor systems currently that can run Linux, I would not doubt if 99.% percent are uni-cores. It will be probably 3-5 years minimum before the multi-core processors will have any decent percentage of systems. And I am not suggesting not supporting them

Re: about modularization

2007-08-06 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/06/2007 10:20 PM, Mitchell Erblich wrote: Thus, a hybrid schedular approach could be taken that would default to a single uni-processor schedular What a brilliant idea in a world where buying a non multi core CPU is getting to be only somewhat easier than a non SMT one... Rene

Re: about modularization

2007-08-06 Thread Mitchell Erblich
Ingo Molnar and group, If we just concentrate on CPU schedulars... IMO, POSIX requirements almost guarantee the support for modularization. The different task scheds allow a set of task class specific funcs to be generated. The question is whether those modular sched

Re: about modularization

2007-08-03 Thread Ingo Molnar
* Rene Herman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 08/03/2007 03:19 PM, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > > One of the authors of the IO scheduler code said it on lkml recently > > that while modularization of IO scheduler had advantages too, in > > retrospect he wishes they would not have made IO schedulers

Re: about modularization

2007-08-03 Thread Rene Herman
On 08/03/2007 03:19 PM, Ingo Molnar wrote: One of the authors of the IO scheduler code said it on lkml recently that while modularization of IO scheduler had advantages too, in retrospect he wishes they would not have made IO schedulers modular and now that decision cannot be undone. Just as a

Re: about modularization

2007-08-03 Thread Ingo Molnar
* debian developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 1 - Can someone please explain why the kernel can be modular in > > every other aspect, including offering a choice of IO schedulers, > > but not kernel schedulers? > > Good question. has been answered in other threads. Linus does'nt like > ha

Re: about modularization

2007-08-03 Thread Ingo Molnar
* T. J. Brumfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > CFS is apparently better in its simplicity, however others are > reporting that SD still provides benefits for 3D gaming. [...] even for 3D gaming the opposite of what you say seems to be the case: http://people.redhat.com/mingo/misc/cfs-sd-ut20

Re: about modularization

2007-08-03 Thread Ingo Molnar
* T. J. Brumfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 8/3/07, Ingo Molnar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > snip... > > Except that a working prototype of plugsched exists and functions > exactly as advertised. [...] a prototype for dynamic syscalls exists too. A prototype for pluggable network IPv4

Fwd: about modularization

2007-08-03 Thread T. J. Brumfield
On 8/3/07, Ingo Molnar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > snip... Except that a working prototype of plugsched exists and functions exactly as advertised. I understand that modules can be loaded and unloaded, where as other aspects of the core kernel can't just load/unload as the kernel is running, but

Re: about modularization

2007-08-03 Thread Ingo Molnar
* T. J. Brumfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1 - Can someone please explain why the kernel can be modular in every > other aspect, including offering a choice of IO schedulers, but not > kernel schedulers? that's a fundamental misconception. If you boot into a distro kernel on a typical PC,