Re: random thoughts on DEPRECATED and OBSOLETE

2007-04-28 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Sun, 29 Apr 2007, Stefan Richter wrote: > Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > i think this online definition matches what i have in mind: > > > > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=GGGL,GGGL:2006-10,GGGL:en&defl=en&q=define:Deprecated&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title > > "Definitions of Depreca

Re: random thoughts on DEPRECATED and OBSOLETE

2007-04-28 Thread Stefan Richter
Robert P. J. Day wrote: > * deprecated: while a feature is still supported, its use is > discouraged because there is a better alternative that you should > consider migrating to at your convenience. IOW "discouraged, no {mid,long}-term commitment, alternative available, supported" > * obsolete:

Re: random thoughts on DEPRECATED and OBSOLETE

2007-04-28 Thread Stefan Richter
Robert P. J. Day wrote: > i think this online definition matches what i have in mind: > > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=GGGL,GGGL:2006-10,GGGL:en&defl=en&q=define:Deprecated&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title "Definitions of Deprecated on the Web: [...] This term is used to refer to /o

Re: random thoughts on DEPRECATED and OBSOLETE

2007-04-28 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Sun, 29 Apr 2007, Stefan Richter wrote: > I see a discussion on OBSOLETE vs. BROKEN there, which even ended in > a consensus, but I do not see an explicit discussion on OBSOLETE vs. > DEPRECATED. i think this online definition matches what i have in mind: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rl

Re: random thoughts on DEPRECATED and OBSOLETE

2007-04-28 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Sun, 29 Apr 2007, Stefan Richter wrote: > (Although if a certain number of kernel components is > inappropriately labeled, the facility becomes useless of course.) well, sure, but if someone chooses to use a tool incorrectly, there's really no way to stop them. and i'm guessing that that sort

Re: random thoughts on DEPRECATED and OBSOLETE

2007-04-28 Thread Tilman Schmidt
Am 28.04.2007 15:25 schrieb Robert P. J. Day: > http://fsdev.net/wiki/index.php?title=Maturity_levels You note: > DEPRECATED and OBSOLETE at the very least, whose definitions should be > reasonably obvious. The obviousness is in the eye of the beholder. :-) For the sake of us non-native speake

Re: random thoughts on DEPRECATED and OBSOLETE

2007-04-28 Thread Stefan Richter
Robert P. J. Day wrote: > On Sat, 28 Apr 2007, Stefan Richter wrote: >> And that benefit is...? :-) ... > if you're not convinced, there's nothing else i can think of to say > that will persuade you. It didn't come across this way, sorry, but I didn't ask a priori to be persuaded, but rather becau

Re: random thoughts on DEPRECATED and OBSOLETE

2007-04-28 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Sat, 28 Apr 2007, Stefan Richter wrote: > Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > On Sat, 28 Apr 2007, Stefan Richter wrote: > >> Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > i think there's a real benefit in being able to say that you can > > configure and build a kernel that incorporates nothing that people > > have lab

Re: random thoughts on DEPRECATED and OBSOLETE

2007-04-28 Thread Stefan Richter
I wrote: > Robert P. J. Day wrote: >> there's stuff marked >> "EXPERIMENTAL" that appears to have been in the kernel for years. > > It is sometimes true for years, although that's not the goal for > software in mainline. Because EXPERIMENTAL does not mean "is subject to currently ongoing experime

Re: random thoughts on DEPRECATED and OBSOLETE

2007-04-28 Thread Stefan Richter
Robert P. J. Day wrote: > On Sat, 28 Apr 2007, Stefan Richter wrote: >> Robert P. J. Day wrote: >>> http://fsdev.net/wiki/index.php?title=Maturity_levels ... >> - Your argument should include what the benefits of exposing >> DEPRECATED and OBSOLETE as machine-parsable tags are. (I said that

Re: random thoughts on DEPRECATED and OBSOLETE

2007-04-28 Thread Robert P. J. Day
stefan makes a number of points, all of which i'll add to the wiki page shortly (if i get ambitious enough), but i'll answer them here as well. On Sat, 28 Apr 2007, Stefan Richter wrote: > Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > http://fsdev.net/wiki/index.php?title=Maturity_levels > > > > rday > > > > A fe

Re: random thoughts on DEPRECATED and OBSOLETE

2007-04-28 Thread Stefan Richter
Robert P. J. Day wrote: > http://fsdev.net/wiki/index.php?title=Maturity_levels > > rday > A few comments: - Your argument should include what the benefits of exposing DEPRECATED and OBSOLETE as machine-parsable tags are. - "...it's not really experimental but nonetheless claims to be.