Re: PCI Power Management / Interrupt Context

2001-06-27 Thread Jeff Garzik
Linus Torvalds wrote: > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > David T Eger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >So I'm writing some code for a PCI card that is a framebuffer device, and > >happily filling in the functions for the probe() and remove() functions > >when I read documentation (Documentat

Re: PCI Power Management / Interrupt Context

2001-06-27 Thread Linus Torvalds
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David T Eger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >So I'm writing some code for a PCI card that is a framebuffer device, and >happily filling in the functions for the probe() and remove() functions >when I read documentation (Documentation/pci.txt) which mentions that >rem

Re: PCI Power Management / Interrupt Context

2001-06-27 Thread Alan Cox
> if someone yanks the card, how is it going to deliver an interrupt to > the CPU? It can happen actually. There is also a window where you can disable an IRQ on a card and then take an IRQ. The ne2k driver has to jump through a couple of hoops because of this - To unsubscribe from this list: sen

Re: PCI Power Management / Interrupt Context

2001-06-27 Thread Alan Cox
> when I read documentation (Documentation/pci.txt) which mentions that > remove() can be called from interrupt context. This I believe is in fact a documentation error - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More ma

Re: PCI Power Management / Interrupt Context

2001-06-26 Thread Jeff Garzik
David T Eger wrote: > when I read documentation (Documentation/pci.txt) which mentions that > remove() can be called from interrupt context. ignore that. You can sleep in remove, and it will not be called from interrupt context. > Reading code in my sister frame buffer devices, I see that > un

Re: PCI power management

2001-04-21 Thread Russell King
On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 02:56:15PM +0200, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > It's not so complicated to have the minimum flexibility for the driver > to tell it's maximum supported power level, and I don't see why it would > be a problem to use D2 instead of D3 when we don't support D3 for a given >

Re: PCI power management

2001-04-20 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
>> Some devices (bad bad HW designers ;) just can't do it themselves. The >> Rage M3 requires the host to assert PCI RST#, and some motherboards >> provide no documented facility for that (it might be possible with Apple >> ASICs for example, it's just not documented). > >Why should we support suc

Re: PCI power management

2001-04-20 Thread Jeff Garzik
Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > >When a device comes out of D3[hot], the equivalent of a soft reset is > >performed. From D3[cold], PCI RST# is asserted, and the device must be > >completely reinitialized. > > Some devices (bad bad HW designers ;) just can't do it themselves. The > Rage M3 requir

Re: PCI power management

2001-04-20 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
>All devices should handle having power removed from them. And, all of the >drivers should as well, since that is the only way we're going to get >power management out of legacy devices and other things on the board. This >involves saving the current context on suspend, and reinitializing the >dev

Re: PCI power management

2001-04-19 Thread Patrick Mochel
> - There need to be some arch "hooks" in this mecanism. Some machines > have the ability (from the arch specific code, by tweaking ASIC bits) > to remove clock and/or power from selected devices. That mean power > management can be done even with devices not supporting PCI PM provided > that th

Re: [Linux-pm-devel] Re: PCI power management

2001-04-19 Thread Patrick Mochel
> > - On SMP, we need some way to stop other CPUs in the scheduler > > while running the last round of sleep (putting devices to sleep) at least > > until all IO layers in Linux can properly handle blocking of IO queues > > while the device sleeps. > > I think either Rusty or Anton wrote code t

Re: PCI power management

2001-04-19 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
>null = 'do absolutely nothing' >generic = 'do D3 as per the specification' > >The idea being the PM layer would go around calling > > dev->power_off(dev); > >as a default notifier for PCI devices. Ok, I see. I didn't understand that the functions you were talking about would be defaults to

Re: PCI power management

2001-04-19 Thread Jeff Garzik
Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > - On SMP, we need some way to stop other CPUs in the scheduler > while running the last round of sleep (putting devices to sleep) at least > until all IO layers in Linux can properly handle blocking of IO queues > while the device sleeps. I think either Rusty or A

Re: PCI power management

2001-04-19 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
>> - Some devices just can't be brought back to life from D3 state without >> a PCI reset (ATI Rage M3 for example) and that require some arch specific >> support (when it's possible at all). > >Putting on a driver author hat what I want is > > pci_power_on_generic > pci_power_off_gen

Re: PCI power management

2001-04-19 Thread Alan Cox
> - Some devices just can't be brought back to life from D3 state without > a PCI reset (ATI Rage M3 for example) and that require some arch specific > support (when it's possible at all). Putting on a driver author hat what I want is pci_power_on_generic pci_power_off_generic

Re: PCI power management

2001-04-19 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
>On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 11:19:31AM +0100, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: >> Hi ! Glad to see things moving around Power Management ;) >> >> >This was originally a private reply to Patrick Mochel, but the e-mail >> >kept getting longer and longer :) >> >> Note: we have setup a list for PM issues

Re: PCI power management

2001-04-19 Thread CaT
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 11:19:31AM +0100, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > Hi ! Glad to see things moving around Power Management ;) > > >This was originally a private reply to Patrick Mochel, but the e-mail > >kept getting longer and longer :) > > Note: we have setup a list for PM issues > > ht

Re: PCI power management

2001-04-19 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
Hi ! Glad to see things moving around Power Management ;) >This was originally a private reply to Patrick Mochel, but the e-mail >kept getting longer and longer :) Note: we have setup a list for PM issues http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-pm-devel Not very much used yet, but I,

Re: PCI power management

2001-04-19 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
Hi ! Glad to see things moving around Power Management ;) >This was originally a private reply to Patrick Mochel, but the e-mail >kept getting longer and longer :) Note: we have setup a list for PM issues http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-pm-devel Not very much used yet, but I,