Re: DNS goofups galore...

2001-02-20 Thread James Antill
"Henning P. Schmiedehausen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Antill) writes: > > >"Henning P. Schmiedehausen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> % telnet mail.bar.org smtp > >> 220 mail.foo.org ESMTP ready > >> > >> > >> This kills loop detection. Yes, it

Re: DNS goofups galore...

2001-02-13 Thread Henning P. Schmiedehausen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai Henningsen) writes: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Henning P. Schmiedehausen) wrote on 12.02.01 in ><968mjv$l9t$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jan Gyselinck) writes: >> >> >There's not really something wrong with MX's pointing to CNAME's. It's >> >just that some mailser

Re: DNS goofups galore...

2001-02-13 Thread Henning P. Schmiedehausen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Antill) writes: >"Henning P. Schmiedehausen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> % telnet mail.bar.org smtp >> 220 mail.foo.org ESMTP ready >> >> >> This kills loop detection. Yes, it is done this way =%-) and it breaks >> if done wrong. > This is humour, y

Re: DNS goofups galore...

2001-02-12 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Henning P. Schmiedehausen) wrote on 12.02.01 in <968mjv$l9t$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jan Gyselinck) writes: > > >There's not really something wrong with MX's pointing to CNAME's. It's > >just that some mailservers could (can?) not handle this. So if you want

Re: DNS goofups galore...

2001-02-12 Thread James Antill
"Henning P. Schmiedehausen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (H. Peter Anvin) writes: > > >> In other words, you do a lookup, you start with a primary lookup > >> and then possibly a second lookup to resolve an MX or CNAME. It's only > >> the MX that points to a CNAME tha

Re: DNS goofups galore...

2001-02-12 Thread Henning P. Schmiedehausen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (H. Peter Anvin) writes: >> In other words, you do a lookup, you start with a primary lookup >> and then possibly a second lookup to resolve an MX or CNAME. It's only >> the MX that points to a CNAME that results in yet another lookup. An >> MX pointing to a CNAME is a

Re: DNS goofups galore...

2001-02-12 Thread Henning P. Schmiedehausen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jan Gyselinck) writes: >There's not really something wrong with MX's pointing to CNAME's. It's just that >some mailservers could (can?) not handle this. So if you want to be able to receive >mail from all kinds of mailservers, don't use CNAME's for MX's. No. It breaks a ba

Re: DNS goofups galore...

2001-02-08 Thread Jan Gyselinck
On Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 02:58:30PM -0800, H. Peter Anvin wrote: > Followup to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > By author:Gerhard Mack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel > > > > Thanklfully bind 9 barfs if you even try this sort of thing. > > > > Personally I find it puzzling what's

Re: DNS goofups galore...

2001-02-08 Thread Michael H. Warfield
On Fri, Feb 09, 2001 at 01:50:04AM +, Aaron Denney wrote: > Michael H. Warfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But, wait a minute. CNAME -> CNAME is a "must not". > Cite the RFC please. 1034 says > # Domain names in RRs which point at another name should always point at > # the primary

Re: DNS goofups galore...

2001-02-08 Thread Aaron Denney
Michael H. Warfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But, wait a minute. CNAME -> CNAME is a "must not". Cite the RFC please. 1034 says # Domain names in RRs which point at another name should always point at # the primary name and not the alias. and # domain software should not fail when pr

Re: DNS goofups galore...

2001-02-08 Thread Johannes Erdfelt
On Thu, Feb 08, 2001, Michael H. Warfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But, wait a minute. CNAME -> CNAME is a "must not". MX -> CNAME > is a "should not". The "should not" leaves it to be implimentation > dependent and not an outright ban. Sooo... Actually, I had this conversation rece

Re: DNS goofups galore...

2001-02-08 Thread Michael H. Warfield
On Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 04:11:39PM -0800, H. Peter Anvin wrote: > "Michael H. Warfield" wrote: > > > > > Please explain how there is any different between an CNAME or MX pointing > > > to an A record in a different SOA versus an MX pointing to a CNAME > > > pointing to an A record where at least

Re: DNS goofups galore...

2001-02-08 Thread H. Peter Anvin
"Michael H. Warfield" wrote: > > > Please explain how there is any different between an CNAME or MX pointing > > to an A record in a different SOA versus an MX pointing to a CNAME > > pointing to an A record where at least one pair is local (same SOA). > > Ah! But now you are placing co

Re: DNS goofups galore...

2001-02-08 Thread Michael H. Warfield
On Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 04:01:30PM -0800, H. Peter Anvin wrote: > > > Wouldn't that be true for any CNAME anyway? > > That's the point... > > In other words, you do a lookup, you start with a primary lookup > > and then possibly a second lookup to resolve an MX or CNAME. It's o

Re: DNS goofups galore...

2001-02-08 Thread H. Peter Anvin
> > > Wouldn't that be true for any CNAME anyway? > > That's the point... > > In other words, you do a lookup, you start with a primary lookup > and then possibly a second lookup to resolve an MX or CNAME. It's only > the MX that points to a CNAME that results in yet another lo

Re: DNS goofups galore...

2001-02-08 Thread Michael H. Warfield
On Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 03:47:17PM -0800, H. Peter Anvin wrote: > "Michael H. Warfield" wrote: > > > > On Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 02:58:30PM -0800, H. Peter Anvin wrote: > > > Followup to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > By author:Gerhard Mack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel

Re: DNS goofups galore...

2001-02-08 Thread H. Peter Anvin
"Michael H. Warfield" wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 02:58:30PM -0800, H. Peter Anvin wrote: > > Followup to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > By author:Gerhard Mack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel > > > > > > Thanklfully bind 9 barfs if you even try this sort of thing. > >

Re: DNS goofups galore...

2001-02-08 Thread Michael H. Warfield
On Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 02:58:30PM -0800, H. Peter Anvin wrote: > Followup to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > By author:Gerhard Mack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel > > > > Thanklfully bind 9 barfs if you even try this sort of thing. > > > Personally I find it puzzling what's wr

Re: DNS goofups galore...

2001-02-08 Thread H. Peter Anvin
Followup to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> By author:Gerhard Mack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel > > Thanklfully bind 9 barfs if you even try this sort of thing. > Personally I find it puzzling what's wrong with MX -> CNAME at all; it seems like a useful setup without the pitfalls

Re: DNS goofups galore...

2001-02-08 Thread Gerhard Mack
Thanklfully bind 9 barfs if you even try this sort of thing. Gerhard On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, Henning P. Schmiedehausen wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matti Aarnio) writes: > > >NSes and MXes must ALWAYS point to NAMEs with A//A6 records for > >them, specifically those names MUST NOT be CN

Re: DNS goofups galore...

2001-02-08 Thread Henning P. Schmiedehausen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matti Aarnio) writes: >NSes and MXes must ALWAYS point to NAMEs with A//A6 records for >them, specifically those names MUST NOT be CNAMEs. With NSes the NS: must not MX: should not ...stickler for details. ;-) Henning -- Dipl.-Inf. (Univ.) Henn

Re: DNS goofups galore...

2001-02-08 Thread Mr. James W. Laferriere
Hello Matti , On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, Matti Aarnio wrote: ...snip... > Answer to the self-education question above: > > The NAME fields in usual BIND systems get appended the current $ORIGIN > string value when the data in the field does not end with a dot: > > Wrong: IN MX 10 11