Re: [kbuild-devel] Re: CML1 cleanup patch

2001-04-15 Thread Olaf Titz
> And the problem is that this hits a fast path in the classical news spool > layout article create path. The code for this assumes that you have > articles in the range X to Y, and you just got a new article, so you write > a file called /var/spool/news/group/name/Y+1. You really do not want to >

Re: [kbuild-devel] Re: CML1 cleanup patch

2001-04-15 Thread Kai Henningsen
Warning: No kernel related stuff inside. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rik van Riel) wrote on 26.03.01 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, John Cowan wrote: > > In fact this has come up before: in Usenet software, which has to > > differentiate between an article and a sub-newsgroup. An arti

Re: [kbuild-devel] Re: CML1 cleanup patch, take 3

2001-03-26 Thread Eric S. Raymond
John Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > If CML2 is adopted and I become the config system maimtainer, >^ > Typo-ROTFL! Of such errors are linguistic innovations made. I wonder if this one will propagate enough that I have to put it in the Jargo

Re: [kbuild-devel] Re: CML1 cleanup patch, take 3

2001-03-26 Thread John Cowan
Eric S. Raymond wrote: > If CML2 is adopted and I become the config system maimtainer, ^ Typo-ROTFL! -- There is / one art || John Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> no more / no less || http://www.reutershealth.com to do /

Re: [kbuild-devel] Re: CML1 cleanup patch

2001-03-26 Thread Eric S. Raymond
Rik van Riel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > What's wrong with using the _file type_ for these things ? I don't understand that. > Conversely, why can't CML2 use the CONFIG_ prefix to > determine if a symbol is a configuration option, like > we're doing now? I do understand this. Greg Banks pointed it

Re: [kbuild-devel] Re: CML1 cleanup patch

2001-03-26 Thread Rik van Riel
On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, John Cowan wrote: > esr scripsit: > > > it needs is more overhead, and (2) interpreting symbols with leading digits > > as nonnumeric tokens is just *wrong*. Ugh. Violates the Principle of Least > > Surprise big-time. > > In fact this has come up before: in Usenet softwar

Re: [kbuild-devel] Re: CML1 cleanup patch

2001-03-26 Thread John Cowan
esr scripsit: > I could have done this, allowing tokens to be recognized as numeric only > if all chars are digits. I didn't, for two reasons: (1) Lexical analysis > is, as it turns out, a hotspot in the CML2 compiler code -- the last thing > it needs is more overhead, and (2) interpreting symbo

Re: [kbuild-devel] Re: CML1 cleanup patch

2001-03-25 Thread Eric S. Raymond
Jeff Garzik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > There is no good reason to restrict the CML2 identifier namespace. I've already listed a couple of good reasons. As Peter said, maintanicus selector est. -- http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/">Eric S. Raymond No one who's seen it in action can say t

Re: [kbuild-devel] Re: CML1 cleanup patch

2001-03-25 Thread Jeff Garzik
Keith Owens wrote: > That just leaves the 17 names of the form CONFIG_[0-9]*. Only the 8139 > is likely to affect outside the kernel and the argument that renaming > config options might affect external packages does not hold. The > recent aic7xxx change broke pcmcia on 2.2 kernels but we can wo

Re: [kbuild-devel] Re: CML1 cleanup patch

2001-03-25 Thread Keith Owens
On Mon, 26 Mar 2001 02:09:02 -0500, "Eric S. Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Jeff Garzik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> If we are moving to CML2 in 2.5, I see no point in big CML1 cleanups. > >Yes, I know, that's what I said about Peter's DERIVED patch a week ago. Hey, that was my DERIVED patch, n

Re: [kbuild-devel] Re: CML1 cleanup patch

2001-03-25 Thread Michael Elizabeth Chastain
Eric Raymond writes: > (1) 19 of the 39 changes fix things that are outright bugs even in CML1. > These should not be allowed to persist in the stable branch. I think that things that are bugs in CML1, on its own terms, are worth fixing in 2.4. Michael - To unsubscribe from this list: send t