Re: REVISED: Experimentation with Athlon and fast_page_copy

2001-05-09 Thread Dieter Nützel
Am Samstag, 5. Mai 2001 09:13 schrieben Sie: > > My (very) old Athlon 550 (model 1, stepping 2) show it on my MSI MS-6167 > > (AMD Irongate C4) with your 2.4.4-ac5, now :-( > > Manfred has a good explanation for that. Im hoping it also explains the > VIA problem too > > > I am open for any test f

Re: REVISED: Experimentation with Athlon and fast_page_copy

2001-05-09 Thread Tom Leete
Alan Cox wrote: > > > Trace; c01b956a > > Trace; c01b3fb5 > > Trace; c01b9aca > > Trace; c01b9380 > > Trace; c01b9940 > > Trace; c01bd457 > > Trace; c01b4d2a > > Trace; c01b5010 > > Trace; c01b51ff > > We seem to be several layers into recursive use of the ide driver - which > shouldnt

Re: REVISED: Experimentation with Athlon and fast_page_copy

2001-05-09 Thread Alan Cox
> Trace; 037f > Trace; > Trace; > Trace; 0720 Lets ignore the crap above.. > Trace; c01b956a > Trace; c01b3fb5 > Trace; c01b9aca > Trace; c01b9380 > Trace; c01b9940 > Trace; c01bd457 > Trace; c01b4d2a > Trace; c01b5010 > Trace; c01b51ff We seem to be sever

Re: REVISED: Experimentation with Athlon and fast_page_copy

2001-05-09 Thread Tom Leete
Alan Cox wrote: > > > > IIRC this thread is about boot going catatonic right after unloading > > __initmem. > > Nope. Its about memory corruptions. Your bug sounds very different > > > Earlier, it looks like handle_mm_fault is being triggered from > > fast_clear_page. > > That would be messy.

Re: REVISED: Experimentation with Athlon and fast_page_copy

2001-05-09 Thread Alan Cox
> > What still stands out is that exactly _zero_ people have reported the same > > problem with non VIA chipset Athlons. > > Not any more :-( Still the same > IIRC this thread is about boot going catatonic right after unloading > __initmem. Nope. Its about memory corruptions. Your bug sounds v

Re: REVISED: Experimentation with Athlon and fast_page_copy

2001-05-08 Thread Tom Leete
Alan Cox wrote: > > > the memory copy in the fast_page_copy routine. The machine then > > proceeded > > not to stop at my panic, but I got my "normal" oopses. I then had an > > Ok > > > idea and removed all the prefetch instructions from the beginning of the > > routine and tried the resultin

Re: REVISED: Experimentation with Athlon and fast_page_copy

2001-05-08 Thread Arjan van de Ven
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > Arjan - care to unroll the tail 320 bytes of copying from the main loop ? I'll see what I can do to make us not loose too much speed. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: REVISED: Experimentation with Athlon and fast_page_copy

2001-05-06 Thread Jeremy
Have non-production via KT133a, will test :) (tyan mobo, 1.33ghz, tulip eth, an idea drive, nothing really exciting, just a fast ath) -j John R Lenton enlightened recipients with the following on 06May2001: > On Sat, May 05, 2001 at 08:20:56AM +0100, Alan Cox wrote: > > Dont panic just yet. Manf

Re: REVISED: Experimentation with Athlon and fast_page_copy

2001-05-06 Thread John R Lenton
On Sat, May 05, 2001 at 08:20:56AM +0100, Alan Cox wrote: > Dont panic just yet. Manfred's observation could mean we hit chipset specific > behaviour on prefetches. OK - Please let me know when to start. -- John Lenton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- Random fortune: BOFH excuse #349: Stray Alpha Part

Re: REVISED: Experimentation with Athlon and fast_page_copy

2001-05-05 Thread Jeremy
Quick note. I *AM* seeing this problem on a Tyan S2390B which has the Via KT133A chipset on it. AMD Athlon 1.33ghz 2x256m DIMMs Linux 2.4.4-ac5 I haven't done the ksymoops conversions yet, but please let me know if you'd like anything else. But basically, it looks exactly like what all the IWI

Re: REVISED: Experimentation with Athlon and fast_page_copy

2001-05-05 Thread Alan Cox
> > one of them to a new mb with a non-VIA chipset (Asus A7A266), and it boot= > ed the > > first Athlon kernel I tried (2.4.4). No other changes to .config, same > > processor as before, same memory, same disks, same video, same case, same= > power > > cord, you name it. > > damn. I guess the

Re: REVISED: Experimentation with Athlon and fast_page_copy

2001-05-04 Thread Alan Cox
> My (very) old Athlon 550 (model 1, stepping 2) show it on my MSI MS-6167 (AMD > Irongate C4) with your 2.4.4-ac5, now :-( Manfred has a good explanation for that. Im hoping it also explains the VIA problem too > I am open for any test fixes... Watch this space -> <- ;) Alan - To unsubscri

Re: REVISED: Experimentation with Athlon and fast_page_copy

2001-05-04 Thread John R Lenton
On Sat, May 05, 2001 at 12:10:06AM +0600, Bobby D. Bryant wrote: > They do boot PIII kernels reliably for all those variants, though they still > suffer occasional oopses, hangs, or crashes (as discussed in other threads). and as happens with my SMP pIII VIA-based boxed (and I've finally fixed th

Re: REVISED: Experimentation with Athlon and fast_page_copy

2001-05-04 Thread Bobby D. Bryant
Aaron Tiensivu wrote: > > What still stands out is that exactly _zero_ people have reported the same > > problem with non VIA chipset Athlons. > > This might be grasping at straws [...] This could be (total conjecture) > related somehow to the corruption bugs they are admitting to in > the 686B

Re: REVISED: Experimentation with Athlon and fast_page_copy

2001-05-04 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sat, May 05, 2001 at 03:51:13PM +1200, Chris Wedgwood wrote: > I don't see how they figure, but in case there was any doubt I > have a VIA KT133A/686B board (Abit KT7A) and don't experience > anything resembling disk corruption unless the box crashes for > some other reason. I

Re: REVISED: Experimentation with Athlon and fast_page_copy

2001-05-04 Thread Seth Goldberg
Chris Wedgwood wrote: > > On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 05:26:57PM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote: > > I don't see how they figure, but in case there was any doubt I > have a VIA KT133A/686B board (Abit KT7A) and don't experience > anything resembling disk corruption unless the box crashes for

Re: REVISED: Experimentation with Athlon and fast_page_copy

2001-05-04 Thread Dieter Nützel
> What still stands out is that exactly _zero_ people have reported the same > problem with non VIA chipset Athlons. Sorry Alan, but... My (very) old Athlon 550 (model 1, stepping 2) show it on my MSI MS-6167 (AMD Irongate C4) with your 2.4.4-ac5, now :-( Even with or without apm/acpi enabled.

Re: REVISED: Experimentation with Athlon and fast_page_copy

2001-05-04 Thread Joseph Carter
On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 06:26:14PM -0400, Aaron Tiensivu wrote: > This might be grasping at straws I remember VIA problem in the "good old > days" of Socket 7 with CPU/PCI Prefetches and especially Read-around-Write > settings that would cause issues like we're seeing with the Athlon > pre-fetches

Re: REVISED: Experimentation with Athlon and fast_page_copy

2001-05-04 Thread Aaron Tiensivu
> What still stands out is that exactly _zero_ people have reported the same > problem with non VIA chipset Athlons. This might be grasping at straws I remember VIA problem in the "good old days" of Socket 7 with CPU/PCI Prefetches and especially Read-around-Write settings that would cause issue

Re: REVISED: Experimentation with Athlon and fast_page_copy

2001-05-04 Thread Alan Cox
> prefetch 320(%0) can fetch memory behind the end of the source page. > Perhaps it accesses memory in the ISA hole, or beyond the end of memory? > Could you post the e820 map from dmesg? > > It's possible to build manually a memory map. > Could you build one with wide margins from "dangerous" ar

Re: REVISED: Experimentation with Athlon and fast_page_copy

2001-05-04 Thread Alan Cox
> the memory copy in the fast_page_copy routine. The machine then > proceeded > not to stop at my panic, but I got my "normal" oopses. I then had an Ok > idea and removed all the prefetch instructions from the beginning of the > routine and tried the resultin kernel. I now have no crashes. >

Re: REVISED: Experimentation with Athlon and fast_page_copy

2001-05-04 Thread Brian Gerst
Seth Goldberg wrote: > > Hi, > > After removing my head from my a**, I revised the code that checks > the memory copy in the fast_page_copy routine. The machine then > proceeded > not to stop at my panic, but I got my "normal" oopses. I then had an > idea and removed all the prefetch instruct

Re: REVISED: Experimentation with Athlon and fast_page_copy

2001-05-04 Thread Seth Goldberg
On Fri, 4 May 2001, Manfred Spraul wrote: | > --- | > > __asm__ __volatile__ ( | > 158c157 | > < "3: movw $0x1AEB, 1b\n" | > --- | > > "3: movw $0x1AEB, 1b\n" /* jmp on 26 bytes */ | > 166c165 | > < */ | > --- | > > | > 170c169 | > < "1: nop\n" /*

Re: REVISED: Experimentation with Athlon and fast_page_copy

2001-05-04 Thread Manfred Spraul
> --- > > __asm__ __volatile__ ( > 158c157 > < "3: movw $0x1AEB, 1b\n" > --- > > "3: movw $0x1AEB, 1b\n" /* jmp on 26 bytes */ > 166c165 > < */ > --- > > > 170c169 > < "1: nop\n" /* prefetch 320(%0)\n" */ > --- > > "1: prefetch 320(%0)\

REVISED: Experimentation with Athlon and fast_page_copy

2001-05-04 Thread Seth Goldberg
Hi, After removing my head from my a**, I revised the code that checks the memory copy in the fast_page_copy routine. The machine then proceeded not to stop at my panic, but I got my "normal" oopses. I then had an idea and removed all the prefetch instructions from the beginning of the routin