Re: VIA's Southbridge bug: Latest (pseudo-)patch

2001-06-06 Thread GĂ©rard Roudier
On Sun, 3 Jun 2001, Adrian Cox wrote: > Marc Lehmann wrote: > > > > Aren't PCI delayed transaction supposed to be handled by the pci master > > (e.g. my northbridge), not by the (software) driver for my pdc(?) I would > > also be surprised if my pdc actually used that feature, not to speak of

Re: VIA's Southbridge bug: Latest (pseudo-)patch

2001-06-06 Thread Dan Hollis
On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Marc Lehmann wrote: > I *do* hate silent data corruption :() An "integrity loopback" device would certainly detect silent corruption. Eg a loopback which CRC's all blocks read/written and screams loudly if the CRC fails. -Dan - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "

Re: VIA's Southbridge bug: Latest (pseudo-)patch

2001-06-06 Thread Marc Lehmann
On Sun, Jun 03, 2001 at 11:10:02PM +0100, Adrian Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > data corruption was easily detectable, one couldn't even write 500megs > > without altered bytes). > > > Wrong way round. You're right that the pci master is supposed to handle > delayed transactions, but during

Re: VIA's Southbridge bug: Latest (pseudo-)patch

2001-06-04 Thread Adrian Cox
Marc Lehmann wrote: > Aren't PCI delayed transaction supposed to be handled by the pci master > (e.g. my northbridge), not by the (software) driver for my pdc(?) I would > also be surprised if my pdc actually used that feature, not to speak of > the fact that the promise + harddisk worked fine i

Re: VIA's Southbridge bug: Latest (pseudo-)patch

2001-06-01 Thread Marc Lehmann
On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 11:28:48AM -0400, Jeff Garzik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Once you get into the area of flushing data (or not flushing, which is > what delayed txn would imply), it is entirely possible that the driver > simply does not support what occurs when the PCI Delay Txn option is

Re: VIA's Southbridge bug: Latest (pseudo-)patch

2001-06-01 Thread Jeff Garzik
Marc Lehmann wrote: > one thing I found out using triel and error is that setting "PCI Delay > Transaction" to enabled causes data corruption on WRITE to my ide drives > connected to an Promise Ultra 100 PCI controlelr (I didn't get any > corruption on the devices connected to the via ide interfac

Re: VIA's Southbridge bug: Latest (pseudo-)patch

2001-06-01 Thread Marc Lehmann
On Sat, May 19, 2001 at 11:07:21AM +0200, Axel Thimm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > if( KT133A || KT133 || KX133 ) { > if( Mainboard=="Epox 8KTA-3(+)" && BIOS>="8kt31417" ) > return 0; /* EPOX already fixed it their way. */ > #ifdef NEW_PATCH > Offset 76: Set bit5=0 and bit4=1 ("every PCI m

Re: VIA's Southbridge bug: Latest (pseudo-)patch

2001-05-22 Thread Alan Cox
> > Not just crap hardware, but also vendors who refuse to release proper material > > required for writing drivers. NVidia springs to my mind. > > > Not that the kernel list is the best place to bring this up, but NVIDIA > would NOT be on that list. They are by far one of the best companies out

Re: VIA's Southbridge bug: Latest (pseudo-)patch

2001-05-22 Thread God
On Mon, 21 May 2001, Udo A. Steinberg wrote: > Gerhard Mack wrote: > > > > > Its what I would describe as lack of enforcement by trading standards bodies, > > > and I suspect what the US would call 'insufficient class action lawsuits' > > > > What we need is a web page for listing crap hardware

Re: VIA's Southbridge bug: Latest (pseudo-)patch

2001-05-22 Thread God
On Mon, 21 May 2001, Gerhard Mack wrote: > Subject: Re: VIA's Southbridge bug: Latest (pseudo-)patch > > > Its what I would describe as lack of enforcement by trading standards bodies, > > and I suspect what the US would call 'insufficient class action lawsuits'

Re: VIA's Southbridge bug: Latest (pseudo-)patch

2001-05-21 Thread Dan Hollis
On Mon, 21 May 2001, Udo A. Steinberg wrote: > Not just crap hardware, but also vendors who refuse to release proper material > required for writing drivers. NVidia springs to my mind. This would be a browser-busting webpage, the page would be so long... -Dan - To unsubscribe from this list: se

Re: VIA's Southbridge bug: Latest (pseudo-)patch

2001-05-21 Thread Dan Hollis
On Mon, 21 May 2001, Gerhard Mack wrote: > > Its what I would describe as lack of enforcement by trading standards bodies, > > and I suspect what the US would call 'insufficient class action lawsuits' > What we need is a web page for listing crap hardware so less people buy > it. And then get sue

RE: VIA's Southbridge bug: Latest (pseudo-)patch

2001-05-21 Thread Khachaturov, Vassilii
There is such a web page, and it's the .html version of the Hardware-HOWTO on any LDP mirror. Some distribution even print it and include with their booklets accompanying the installation CDs. Make sure you send case reports about any unsupported crap hardware there... > -Original Message

Re: VIA's Southbridge bug: Latest (pseudo-)patch

2001-05-21 Thread Udo A. Steinberg
Gerhard Mack wrote: > > > Its what I would describe as lack of enforcement by trading standards bodies, > > and I suspect what the US would call 'insufficient class action lawsuits' > > What we need is a web page for listing crap hardware so less people buy > it. Not just crap hardware, but als

Re: VIA's Southbridge bug: Latest (pseudo-)patch

2001-05-21 Thread Gerhard Mack
> Its what I would describe as lack of enforcement by trading standards bodies, > and I suspect what the US would call 'insufficient class action lawsuits' What we need is a web page for listing crap hardware so less people buy it. Gerhard -- Gerhard Mack [EMAIL PROTECTED] <>< As a co

Re: VIA's Southbridge bug: Latest (pseudo-)patch

2001-05-20 Thread Alan Cox
> > If it had been a manufacturer in most respectable areas of business they'd be > > recalling and reissuing components, and paying for the end resllers to notify > > each customer > > This is consumer hardware. Consumer products are optimized for a > good buzzword count per $ ratio. Everything

Re: VIA's Southbridge bug: Latest (pseudo-)patch

2001-05-19 Thread Ingo Oeser
On Sat, May 19, 2001 at 05:11:30PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote: > If it had been a manufacturer in most respectable areas of business they'd be > recalling and reissuing components, and paying for the end resllers to notify > each customer This is consumer hardware. Consumer products are optimized for

Re: VIA's Southbridge bug: Latest (pseudo-)patch

2001-05-19 Thread Przemyslaw Wegrzyn
On Sat, 19 May 2001, Axel Thimm wrote: > This are the latest suggestions for handling the VIA Southbridge bug as > derived from the hardware site www.au-ja.de (Many thanks to doelf). Sorry - little off-topic. I can't find the clean answer anywhere. I use KT7A-RAID, with one disc connected to H

Re: VIA's Southbridge bug: Latest (pseudo-)patch

2001-05-19 Thread Alan Cox
> This are the latest suggestions for handling the VIA Southbridge bug as > derived from the hardware site www.au-ja.de (Many thanks to doelf). I'd rather people left this except for the obvious fixed that were done for non VIA northbridge combinations until 2.5. 2.4 is not an appropriate place t