Re: Open source firewalls

2005-07-14 Thread RVK
Helge Hafting wrote: RVK wrote: Proxies can be a good way of filtering but it can't avoid buffer overflows. Yes they can - did you read and udnerstand my previous post at all? A proxy _can_ avoid a buffer overflow by noticing the anomalously large data item and simply refuse to pass it on t

Re: Open source firewalls

2005-07-14 Thread Helge Hafting
RVK wrote: Proxies can be a good way of filtering but it can't avoid buffer overflows. Yes they can - did you read and udnerstand my previous post at all? A proxy _can_ avoid a buffer overflow by noticing the anomalously large data item and simply refuse to pass it on to the real server! The

Re: Open source firewalls

2005-07-14 Thread RVK
Proxies can be a good way of filtering but it can't avoid buffer overflows. It can only increase it. More code more bugs. If it is running on a hardware firewall as a service then its more dangerous as once it is compramised then IDS signatures also can be deleated :-). No use of IDS the right

Re: Open source firewalls

2005-07-14 Thread Helge Hafting
RVK wrote: I don't think buffer overflow has anything to do with transparent proxy. Transparent proxying is just doing some protocol filtering. A transparent proxy is a protocol filter, which is why it is an ideal way of detecting protocol-dependent buffer overflow attacks. The detection code

Re: Open source firewalls

2005-07-14 Thread RVK
I don't think buffer overflow has anything to do with transparent proxy. Transparent proxying is just doing some protocol filtering. Still the proxy code may have some buffer overflows. The best way is first to try avoiding any buffer overflows and take programming precautions. Other way is to

Re: Open source firewalls

2005-07-14 Thread Helge Hafting
Vinay Venkataraghavan wrote: I know how to implement buffer overflow attacks. But how would an intrusion detection system detect a buffer overflow attack. Buffer overflow attacks vary, but have one thing in common. The overflow string is much longer than what's usual for the app/protocol in

Re: Open source firewalls

2005-07-13 Thread Nigel Rantor
Vinay Venkataraghavan wrote: Hello, Hello, *devil's advocate hat on* I have implemented an bare bones Intrusion detection system that currently detects scans like open, bouce, half open etc and a host of other tcp scans. As an aside, why, we have snort? I would like to develop this into a

RE: Open source firewalls

2005-07-13 Thread Alejandro Bonilla
> Are there other open source firewall implementations > other than snort? > > I would apprecitate it if you could let me know. > Thanks, > Vinay > I might be wrong and this might be a stupid answer but... How about iptables? iptables blocks everything incomind, allows, deny and forwards, so I th