Re: Possible critical VIA vt82c686a chip bug (private question)

2000-10-27 Thread TimO
Vojtech Pavlik wrote: > > I'm *not* sure. It just looks like a reasonable explanation. It doesn't > happen on Intel chips and older VIA chips, it only happens on new VIA > chips, and the code is the same all the time. Also, it happens both with > 2.2 and 2.4 kernels ... > > -- > Vojtech Pavlik >

Re: Possible critical VIA vt82c686a chip bug (private question)

2000-10-27 Thread Vojtech Pavlik
On Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 02:04:58PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Interesting. If it's caused by SCSI as well (might be), then it's not > > caused by heavy IDE activity but rather than that it could be heavy > > BusMastering activity instead (The IDE chip does BM as well). > > > > I'm still

Re: Possible critical VIA vt82c686a chip bug (private question)

2000-10-27 Thread bart
On 26 Oct, Vojtech Pavlik wrote: > On Thu, Oct 26, 2000 at 04:42:31PM +0200, Yoann Vandoorselaere wrote: > >> > On Thu, Oct 26, 2000 at 04:20:43PM +0200, Yoann Vandoorselaere wrote: >> > >> > > ... >> > > >> > > Have you any idea what is the relation between time and this chip ? >> > > >> > >

Re: Possible critical VIA vt82c686a chip bug (private question)

2000-10-27 Thread Vojtech Pavlik
On Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 01:16:34PM +0200, Yoann Vandoorselaere wrote: > > Which part of the chipset you mean? The PIT (programmable interrupt > > timer)? That one is standard since XT times. The rest of the ISA bridge? > > Maybe, but that's mostly BIOS work and shouldn't impact the PIT > > under

Re: Possible critical VIA vt82c686a chip bug (private question)

2000-10-27 Thread Yoann Vandoorselaere
Vojtech Pavlik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 12:58:12PM +0200, Yoann Vandoorselaere wrote: > > > > > > So this is not our problem here. Anyway I guess it's time to hunt for > > > > > i8259 accesses in the kernel that lack the necessary spinlock, even when > > > > > they'r

Re: Possible critical VIA vt82c686a chip bug (private question)

2000-10-27 Thread Vojtech Pavlik
On Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 12:58:12PM +0200, Yoann Vandoorselaere wrote: > > > > So this is not our problem here. Anyway I guess it's time to hunt for > > > > i8259 accesses in the kernel that lack the necessary spinlock, even when > > > > they're not probably the cause of the problem we see here. >

Re: Possible critical VIA vt82c686a chip bug (private question)

2000-10-27 Thread Yoann Vandoorselaere
Vojtech Pavlik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 12:02:20PM +0200, Martin Mares wrote: > > > > So this is not our problem here. Anyway I guess it's time to hunt for > > > i8259 accesses in the kernel that lack the necessary spinlock, even when > > > they're not probably the c

Re: Possible critical VIA vt82c686a chip bug (private question)

2000-10-27 Thread Vojtech Pavlik
On Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 12:02:20PM +0200, Martin Mares wrote: > > So this is not our problem here. Anyway I guess it's time to hunt for > > i8259 accesses in the kernel that lack the necessary spinlock, even when > > they're not probably the cause of the problem we see here. > > BTW what about t

Re: Possible critical VIA vt82c686a chip bug (private question)

2000-10-27 Thread Martin Mares
Hi! > So this is not our problem here. Anyway I guess it's time to hunt for > i8259 accesses in the kernel that lack the necessary spinlock, even when > they're not probably the cause of the problem we see here. BTW what about trying to modify your work-around code to make it attempt to read the

Re: Possible critical VIA vt82c686a chip bug (private question)

2000-10-26 Thread Vojtech Pavlik
On Thu, Oct 26, 2000 at 11:24:38PM +0200, Yoann Vandoorselaere wrote: > Vojtech Pavlik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Thu, Oct 26, 2000 at 11:05:04PM +0200, Yoann Vandoorselaere wrote: > > > > > yop, I 've done : > > > > > > make -j10 World > > > in the xfree tree and simulateously : > >

Re: Possible critical VIA vt82c686a chip bug (private question)

2000-10-26 Thread Yoann Vandoorselaere
Vojtech Pavlik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Oct 26, 2000 at 11:05:04PM +0200, Yoann Vandoorselaere wrote: > > > yop, I 've done : > > > > make -j10 World > > in the xfree tree and simulateously : > > > > while true; do make dep && make clean && make bzImage; done > > in the kernel tr

Re: Possible critical VIA vt82c686a chip bug (private question)

2000-10-26 Thread Vojtech Pavlik
On Thu, Oct 26, 2000 at 11:05:04PM +0200, Yoann Vandoorselaere wrote: > yop, I 've done : > > make -j10 World > in the xfree tree and simulateously : > > while true; do make dep && make clean && make bzImage; done > in the kernel tree Now it'd be nice to verify that the problem also happens w

Re: Possible critical VIA vt82c686a chip bug (private question)

2000-10-26 Thread Yoann Vandoorselaere
Vojtech Pavlik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Oct 26, 2000 at 10:11:54PM +0200, Yoann Vandoorselaere wrote: > > > > > > > ../drivers/block/ide.c, line 162, on version 2.2.17 does bad things > > > > > > to the timer. It writes 0 to the control-word for timer 0. This > > > > > > does the fo

Re: Possible critical VIA vt82c686a chip bug (private question)

2000-10-26 Thread Vojtech Pavlik
On Thu, Oct 26, 2000 at 10:11:54PM +0200, Yoann Vandoorselaere wrote: > > > > > ../drivers/block/ide.c, line 162, on version 2.2.17 does bad things > > > > > to the timer. It writes 0 to the control-word for timer 0. This > > > > > does the following: > > > [Snipped...] > > > > > > > > Well, at

Re: Possible critical VIA vt82c686a chip bug (private question)

2000-10-26 Thread Yoann Vandoorselaere
Vojtech Pavlik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Oct 26, 2000 at 01:42:29PM -0400, Richard B. Johnson wrote: > > > > > ../drivers/block/ide.c, line 162, on version 2.2.17 does bad things > > > > to the timer. It writes 0 to the control-word for timer 0. This > > > > does the following: > > [

Re: Possible critical VIA vt82c686a chip bug (private question)

2000-10-26 Thread Vojtech Pavlik
On Thu, Oct 26, 2000 at 01:42:29PM -0400, Richard B. Johnson wrote: > > > ../drivers/block/ide.c, line 162, on version 2.2.17 does bad things > > > to the timer. It writes 0 to the control-word for timer 0. This > > > does the following: > [Snipped...] > > > > Well, at least on 2.4.0-test9, the

Re: Possible critical VIA vt82c686a chip bug (private question)

2000-10-26 Thread Richard B. Johnson
On Thu, 26 Oct 2000, Vojtech Pavlik wrote: > On Thu, Oct 26, 2000 at 12:04:21PM -0400, Richard B. Johnson wrote: > > > ../drivers/block/ide.c, line 162, on version 2.2.17 does bad things > > to the timer. It writes 0 to the control-word for timer 0. This > > does the following: [Snipped...] >

Re: Possible critical VIA vt82c686a chip bug (private question)

2000-10-26 Thread Vojtech Pavlik
On Thu, Oct 26, 2000 at 12:04:21PM -0400, Richard B. Johnson wrote: > ../drivers/block/ide.c, line 162, on version 2.2.17 does bad things > to the timer. It writes 0 to the control-word for timer 0. This > does the following: > > o Selects timer 0. > o Latches the timer. > o Selects

Re: Possible critical VIA vt82c686a chip bug (private question)

2000-10-26 Thread Richard B. Johnson
On 26 Oct 2000, Yoann Vandoorselaere wrote: > Vojtech Pavlik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [Snipped...] ../drivers/block/ide.c, line 162, on version 2.2.17 does bad things to the timer. It writes 0 to the control-word for timer 0. This does the following: o Selects timer 0. o Latches t

Re: Possible critical VIA vt82c686a chip bug (private question)

2000-10-26 Thread Yoann Vandoorselaere
Vojtech Pavlik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Oct 26, 2000 at 04:42:31PM +0200, Yoann Vandoorselaere wrote: > > > > On Thu, Oct 26, 2000 at 04:20:43PM +0200, Yoann Vandoorselaere wrote: > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > Have you any idea what is the relation between time and this chip ?

Re: Possible critical VIA vt82c686a chip bug (private question)

2000-10-26 Thread Vojtech Pavlik
On Thu, Oct 26, 2000 at 04:42:31PM +0200, Yoann Vandoorselaere wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 26, 2000 at 04:20:43PM +0200, Yoann Vandoorselaere wrote: > > > > > ... > > > > > > Have you any idea what is the relation between time and this chip ? > > > > > > Also, I'm experiencing the problem for sever