On Sunday 2013-01-20 14:54, Tom St Denis wrote:
>>
>> > You should really try running checkpatch.pl over code that's
>> > already in the kernel before you call out new contributors on it.
>> >
>> > How is this supposed to not be adversarial when I can't even use
>> > the Kernel source itself as a
On 01/21/2013 09:31 AM, Tom St Denis wrote:
- Original Message -
From: "Steven Rostedt" To: "Tom St
Denis" Cc: "David
Dillow", "Borislav Petkov",
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, net...@vger.kernel.org Sent: Monday,
21 January, 2013 10:28:33 AM Su
- Original Message -
> From: "Chris Friesen"
> To: "Tom St Denis"
> Cc: "Steven Rostedt" , "David Dillow"
> , "Borislav Petkov" ,
> linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, net...@vger.kernel.org
> Sent: Monday, 21 January, 2013
- Original Message -
> From: "Steven Rostedt"
> To: "Tom St Denis"
> Cc: "David Dillow" , "Borislav Petkov" ,
> linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
> net...@vger.kernel.org
> Sent: Monday, 21 January, 2013 10:28:33 AM
> Subject:
t; > net...@vger.kernel.org
> > Sent: Monday, 21 January, 2013 9:37:41 AM
> > Subject: Re: IPsec AH use of ahash
> > >
> > > I find that 73% of all stats are made up.
> >
> > I was only talking about my own experience. I gave no numbers.
>
> That was
- Original Message -
> From: "Steven Rostedt"
> To: "Tom St Denis"
> Cc: "David Dillow" , "Borislav Petkov" ,
> linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
> net...@vger.kernel.org
> Sent: Monday, 21 January, 2013 9:37:41 AM
> Subject: Re
t; > net...@vger.kernel.org
> > Sent: Monday, 21 January, 2013 8:38:54 AM
> > Subject: Re: IPsec AH use of ahash
>
> > > The missing semi-colon is in fact missing and for that I apologize.
> > > This btw is the first legitimate gripe with the code thus far.
> >
- Original Message -
> From: "Steven Rostedt"
> To: "Tom St Denis"
> Cc: "David Dillow" , "Borislav Petkov" ,
> linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
> net...@vger.kernel.org
> Sent: Monday, 21 January, 2013 8:38:54 AM
> Subject
teven Rostedt"
> >
> > Sent: Monday, 21 January, 2013 4:18:01 AM
> > Subject: Re: IPsec AH use of ahash
> >
> > On Sun, 2013-01-20 at 19:40 -0500, Tom St Denis wrote:
> > > The problem is for me to add the ()'s is a no brainer.
> >
> > I
- Original Message -
> From: "David Dillow"
> To: "Tom St Denis"
> Cc: "Borislav Petkov" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
> net...@vger.kernel.org, "Steven Rostedt"
>
> Sent: Monday, 21 January, 2013 4:18:01 AM
> Subjec
On Sun, 2013-01-20 at 19:40 -0500, Tom St Denis wrote:
> The problem is for me to add the ()'s is a no brainer.
It was more than just the ()'s. You completely botched the indentation
in the parts of code you didn't copy from xcbc.c, among other issues.
> For me to re-write complete statements for
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 07:40:49PM -0500, Tom St Denis wrote:
> If you guys can't appreciate that I should just bow out of the
> discussion. I didn't come here looking for a fight I came here to seek
> reason.
Ok, I'm going to pretty much repeat what Steve said but I'm going to
repeat it only once
...@gondor.apana.org.au,
> linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, net...@vger.kernel.org,
> "Michal Kubecek" , "Mike Galbraith"
> Sent: Sunday, 20 January, 2013 5:07:22 PM
> Subject: Re: IPsec AH use of ahash
>
> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 07:56:27AM -0500, Tom St Den
- Original Message -
> From: "Alan Cox"
> To: "Tom St Denis" , "David Dillow"
>
> Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, net...@vger.kernel.org
> Sent: Sunday, 20 January, 2013 3:30:49 PM
> Subject: Re: IPsec AH use of ahash
>
> Look
- Original Message -
> From: "Borislav Petkov"
> To: "Steven Rostedt"
> Cc: "Tom St Denis" , "David Dillow"
> , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
> net...@vger.kernel.org
> Sent: Sunday, 20 January, 2013 7:34:41 PM
> Subject:
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 05:54:07PM -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> My God, you sound like a 2 year old.
>
> Suck it up, and do the fixes. It's not the time you are worried about,
> as you most definitely spent more time bitching to everyone than it
> would have taken you to clean up your work.
It'
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 01:47:01PM -0500, Tom St Denis wrote:
>
>
> >
> > You mean the content at http://lkml.org/lkml/2012/12/11/369 ?
> >
> > Funny how posting to an mailing list works...
>
> I posted that in December ... it wasn't till January that I got the first
> reply back about it fai
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 07:56:27AM -0500, Tom St Denis wrote:
>
> You should really try running checkpatch.pl over code that's already in the
> kernel before you call out new contributors on it.
>
> How is this supposed to not be adversarial when I can't even use the Kernel
> source itself as a
Look at it from the kernel end. What happens if your change shows up bugs on
another architecture or has a flaw. It works for you now but you plan to dump
and run. That's not a viable long term development model for upstream.
The licence allows you to do it, and other parties who care more to pi
- Original Message -
> From: "David Dillow"
> To: "Tom St Denis"
> Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, net...@vger.kernel.org
> Sent: Sunday, 20 January, 2013 1:11:11 PM
> Subject: Re: IPsec AH use of ahash
>
> On Sun, 2013-01-20 at 12:40 -0500,
On Sun, 2013-01-20 at 12:40 -0500, Tom St Denis wrote:
> > On Sun, 2013-01-20 at 10:07 -0500, Tom St Denis wrote:
> > > In all likelihood I will submit a revised CMAC patch but it'll take
> > > time before I can get business hours to work on it. So instead of
> > > having a maintainer just touch i
- Original Message -
> From: "David Dillow"
> To: "Tom St Denis"
> Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, net...@vger.kernel.org
> Sent: Sunday, 20 January, 2013 11:34:52 AM
> Subject: Re: IPsec AH use of ahash
>
> On Sun, 2013-01-20 at 10:07 -0500,
On Sun, 2013-01-20 at 10:07 -0500, Tom St Denis wrote:
> In all likelihood I will submit a revised CMAC patch but it'll take
> time before I can get business hours to work on it. So instead of
> having a maintainer just touch it up we're all going to lose out
> because of pride?
Yes -- but it wou
r.hengli.com.au,
> linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, net...@vger.kernel.org,
> "Michal Kubecek"
> Sent: Sunday, 20 January, 2013 12:03:34 PM
> Subject: Re: IPsec AH use of ahash
>
> On 01/20/2013 07:07 AM, Tom St Denis wrote:
> >
> > In all likelihood I
On 01/20/2013 07:07 AM, Tom St Denis wrote:
In all likelihood I will submit a revised CMAC patch but it'll take
time before I can get business hours to work on it. So instead of
having a maintainer just touch it up we're all going to lose out
because of pride?
It's not about pride. It is ab
@vger.kernel.org, net...@vger.kernel.org, "Michal Kubecek"
>
> Sent: Sunday, 20 January, 2013 9:11:34 AM
> Subject: Re: IPsec AH use of ahash
>
> On Sun, 2013-01-20 at 07:55 -0500, Tom St Denis wrote:
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > &
t;
> > , "steffen klassert" ,
> > herb...@gondor.apana.org.au,
> > linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, net...@vger.kernel.org, "Michal Kubecek"
> >
> > Sent: Sunday, 20 January, 2013 12:06:21 AM
> > Subject: Re: IPsec AH use of ahash
> >
&g
...@gondor.apana.org.au,
> linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, net...@vger.kernel.org,
> "Michal Kubecek" , "Mike Galbraith"
> Sent: Sunday, 20 January, 2013 8:34:20 AM
> Subject: Re: IPsec AH use of ahash
>
> Am 20.01.2013 13:56, schrieb Tom St Denis:
>
&
Am 20.01.2013 13:56, schrieb Tom St Denis:
You should really try running checkpatch.pl over code that's already in the
kernel before you call out new contributors on it.
How is this supposed to not be adversarial when I can't even use the Kernel
source itself as a reference?
In case of the
...@gondor.apana.org.au,
> linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, net...@vger.kernel.org,
> "Michal Kubecek"
> Sent: Sunday, 20 January, 2013 5:31:32 AM
> Subject: Re: IPsec AH use of ahash
>
> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 06:06:21AM +0100, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> > Sounds as though
rnel@vger.kernel.org, net...@vger.kernel.org, "Michal Kubecek"
>
> Sent: Sunday, 20 January, 2013 12:06:21 AM
> Subject: Re: IPsec AH use of ahash
>
> On Sat, 2013-01-19 at 05:30 -0500, Tom St Denis wrote:
>
> > For those of us who do Kernel development during
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 06:06:21AM +0100, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> Sounds as though any patches you submit land on your dinner plate just
> like potatoes. Hand the cook a pot of half peeled potatoes, he/she may
> say try again.
And how he/she would say it! I've seen serious fights spring up from
ha
On Sat, 2013-01-19 at 05:30 -0500, Tom St Denis wrote:
> For those of us who do Kernel development during business hours it's
> hard to justify the work when the path to mainline is convoluted and
> landmined.
Sounds as though any patches you submit land on your dinner plate just
like potatoes.
On Sat, 2013-01-19 at 05:30 -0500, Tom St Denis wrote:
> As someone who maintained (and I mean that in all senses not just
> applied patches) OSS projects while working full time and still trying
> to have a life I get it. That said I never turned away patches solely
> on "style" issues. At the
el@vger.kernel.org, net...@vger.kernel.org
> Sent: Friday, 18 January, 2013 10:59:55 PM
> Subject: Re: IPsec AH use of ahash
>
> On Sat, 2013-01-19 at 03:33 +0100, Michal Kubecek wrote:
>
> > Someone already pointed you to http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/
> > Please do tak
On Sat, 2013-01-19 at 03:33 +0100, Michal Kubecek wrote:
> Someone already pointed you to http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/
> Please do take a look there. I just did and found that in last three
> months, about 3500 patches were submitted to this list, i.e. about
> 40 patches per day (including weekend
er.kernel.org
> Sent: Friday, 18 January, 2013 9:33:55 PM
> Subject: Re: IPsec AH use of ahash
>
> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 05:31:45PM -0500, Tom St Denis wrote:
> > My gripe here is suppose I spend professional paid time working on
> > an
> > AH patch to [in
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 05:31:45PM -0500, Tom St Denis wrote:
> My gripe here is suppose I spend professional paid time working on an
> AH patch to [in my opinion] fix it and then I get
> ignored/stonewalled/etc because I didn't cross a t or dot an i ...
...
> ... if the likelihood of seeing it in
- Original Message -
> From: "Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P"
> To: "Tom St Denis"
> Cc: "David Miller" , "steffen klassert"
> ,
> herb...@gondor.apana.org.au, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
> net...@vger.kernel.org
> Sent: Frida
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 03:53:44PM -0500, Tom St Denis wrote:
> Admittedly I'm new to the kernel scene but what exactly is a "maintainer"
> then?
Maintainers are ultimately responsible for content that flows into a tree
or subsystem. That means they must command a level of expertise on
everythin
- Original Message -
> From: "David Miller"
> To: tstde...@elliptictech.com
> Cc: "steffen klassert" ,
> herb...@gondor.apana.org.au, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
> net...@vger.kernel.org
> Sent: Friday, 18 January, 2013 2:50:05 PM
> Subject: Re
From: Tom St Denis
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 14:35:33 -0500 (EST)
> Any "maintainers" going to reply to this at all?
What do you mean? There was a reply, and the reply if someone
so skilled finds this facility useful they can feel free to
submit an implementation.
You can't force people to work
Sent: Wednesday, 16 January, 2013 1:21:04 AM
> Subject: Re: IPsec AH use of ahash
>
> Please Cc net...@vger.kernel.org on all networking related topics.
>
> On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 11:51:48AM -0500, Tom St Denis wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > The AH4/6 code uses ahash
Please Cc net...@vger.kernel.org on all networking related topics.
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 11:51:48AM -0500, Tom St Denis wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> The AH4/6 code uses ahash to perform the MAC calculation but this precludes
> the availability of GMAC to the user. Are there any plans to port the AH
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