Re: Getting new udev to run with 2.6.28

2015-01-11 Thread Richard Weinberger
On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 10:04 AM, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Am Samstag, 10. Januar 2015, 23:06:53 schrieb Al Viro: >> On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 11:25:39PM +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote: >> > > ... and this, boys and girls, is why quite a few of us have loathed udev >> > > way before it got merge

Re: Getting new udev to run with 2.6.28

2015-01-11 Thread Pavel Machek
On Sun 2015-01-11 10:04:26, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Am Samstag, 10. Januar 2015, 23:06:53 schrieb Al Viro: > > On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 11:25:39PM +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > > > ... and this, boys and girls, is why quite a few of us have loathed udev > > > > way before it got merged in

Re: Getting new udev to run with 2.6.28

2015-01-11 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 10. Januar 2015, 23:06:53 schrieb Al Viro: > On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 11:25:39PM +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > > ... and this, boys and girls, is why quite a few of us have loathed udev > > > way before it got merged into even nastier shitpile. Still do, for that > > > matter. >

Re: Getting new udev to run with 2.6.28

2015-01-10 Thread Al Viro
On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 11:25:39PM +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > ... and this, boys and girls, is why quite a few of us have loathed udev > > way before it got merged into even nastier shitpile. Still do, for that > > matter. > > You mean systemd by that? Yes, I do. Has it been merged i

Re: Getting new udev to run with 2.6.28

2015-01-10 Thread Aaro Koskinen
Hi, On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 09:18:05PM +, Al Viro wrote: > On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 09:13:35PM +0200, Aaro Koskinen wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 06:39:20PM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote: > > > N900 has real problems on 3.19, and 2.6.28 should be very well > > > debugged version. Getting it to

Re: Getting new udev to run with 2.6.28

2015-01-10 Thread Pavel Machek
On Sat 2015-01-10 21:18:05, Al Viro wrote: > On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 09:13:35PM +0200, Aaro Koskinen wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 06:39:20PM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote: > > > N900 has real problems on 3.19, and 2.6.28 should be very well > > > debugged version. Getting it to compi

Re: Getting new udev to run with 2.6.28

2015-01-10 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 10. Januar 2015, 21:18:58 schrieb Al Viro: > On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 10:17:10AM -0800, Greg KH wrote: > > > > Yes, 3.18, please use that instead. > > > > > > Can't, sorry. My goal is to get 3.18/3.19 working, but I really need > > > working kernel to debug userland (and then use that u

Re: Getting new udev to run with 2.6.28

2015-01-10 Thread Al Viro
On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 10:17:10AM -0800, Greg KH wrote: > > > Yes, 3.18, please use that instead. > > > > Can't, sorry. My goal is to get 3.18/3.19 working, but I really need > > working kernel to debug userland (and then use that userland to debug > > kernel). > > > > > Seriously, lots of thin

Re: Getting new udev to run with 2.6.28

2015-01-10 Thread Al Viro
On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 09:13:35PM +0200, Aaro Koskinen wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 06:39:20PM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote: > > N900 has real problems on 3.19, and 2.6.28 should be very well > > debugged version. Getting it to compile on recent distribution was > > fun, but I succeeded.

Re: Getting new udev to run with 2.6.28

2015-01-10 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2015-01-10 19:09 +0100, Pavel Machek wrote: > I was hoping someone has devtmpfs patches I could just apply over > 2.6.28 and get a working system? IIRC the udev version in Debian 7 does not require devtmpfs (that became mandatory only in udev 176), but kernel 2.6.32 or higher is required for o

Re: Getting new udev to run with 2.6.28

2015-01-10 Thread Aaro Koskinen
Hi, On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 06:39:20PM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote: > N900 has real problems on 3.19, and 2.6.28 should be very well > debugged version. Getting it to compile on recent distribution was > fun, but I succeeded. Unfortunately, Debian 7's udev does not work > with 2.6.28... I guess you

Re: Getting new udev to run with 2.6.28

2015-01-10 Thread Greg KH
On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 07:09:42PM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote: > On Sat 2015-01-10 10:05:32, Greg KH wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 06:39:20PM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote: > > > Hi! > > > > > > N900 has real problems on 3.19, and 2.6.28 should be very well > > > debugged version. Getting it to co

Re: Getting new udev to run with 2.6.28

2015-01-10 Thread Pavel Machek
On Sat 2015-01-10 10:05:32, Greg KH wrote: > On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 06:39:20PM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote: > > Hi! > > > > N900 has real problems on 3.19, and 2.6.28 should be very well > > debugged version. Getting it to compile on recent distribution was > > fun, but I succeeded. Unfortunately,

Re: Getting new udev to run with 2.6.28

2015-01-10 Thread Greg KH
On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 06:39:20PM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote: > Hi! > > N900 has real problems on 3.19, and 2.6.28 should be very well > debugged version. Getting it to compile on recent distribution was > fun, but I succeeded. Unfortunately, Debian 7's udev does not work > with 2.6.28... > > Doe

Getting new udev to run with 2.6.28

2015-01-10 Thread Pavel Machek
Hi! N900 has real problems on 3.19, and 2.6.28 should be very well debugged version. Getting it to compile on recent distribution was fun, but I succeeded. Unfortunately, Debian 7's udev does not work with 2.6.28... Does anyone have kernel patches to enable modern udev? Thanks,