Re: About Celeron processor memory barrier problem

2001-01-01 Thread Riley Williams
Hi Linus. On Sun, 24 Dec 2000, Linus Torvalds wrote: > On Sun, 24 Dec 2000, Tim Wright wrote: >>> Which is all fine, but maybe the kernel really ought to detect >>> that problem and complain at boot time? >>> >>> Or does that happen already? >> There was a similar thread to this recently. The

Re: About Celeron processor memory barrier problem

2000-12-26 Thread Rogier Wolff
Linus Torvalds wrote: > > If we do that I'd rather see a make autoconfig that does the lot from > > proc/pci etc 8) > > Good point. No point in adding a new config option, we should just have a > new configurator instead. Of course, it can't handle many of the > questions, so it would still have

Re: About Celeron processor memory barrier problem

2000-12-26 Thread Pavel Machek
Hi! > > On Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 11:36:00AM +0200, Kai Henningsen wrote: > > > There was a similar thread to this recently. The issue is that if you > > choose the wrong processor type, you may not even be able to complain. > > Hmm ... I think I can see ways around that (essentially similar to t

Re: About Celeron processor memory barrier problem

2000-12-26 Thread Giacomo Catenazzi
Linus Torvalds wrote: > > On Mon, 25 Dec 2000, Alan Cox wrote: > > > > One thing we _could_ potentially do is to simplify the CPU selection a > > > bit, and make it a two-stage process. Basically have a > > > > > > bool "Optimize for current CPU" CONFIG_CPU_CURRENT > > > > > > which most peo

Re: About Celeron processor memory barrier problem

2000-12-26 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Mon, 25 Dec 2000, Alan Cox wrote: > > One thing we _could_ potentially do is to simplify the CPU selection a > > bit, and make it a two-stage process. Basically have a > > > > bool "Optimize for current CPU" CONFIG_CPU_CURRENT > > > > which most people who just want to get the best ker

Re: About Celeron processor memory barrier problem

2000-12-26 Thread Alan Cox
> One thing we _could_ potentially do is to simplify the CPU selection a > bit, and make it a two-stage process. Basically have a > > bool "Optimize for current CPU" CONFIG_CPU_CURRENT > > which most people who just want to get the best kernel would use. Less > confusion that way. If we d

Re: About Celeron processor memory barrier problem

2000-12-25 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
Tim Wright writes: > There was a similar thread to this recently. The issue is that if you > choose the wrong processor type, you may not even be able to complain. An illegal opcode handler could deal with the problem. It could crudely emulate just enough to make printk work. - To unsubscribe fr

Re: About Celeron processor memory barrier problem

2000-12-25 Thread Ian Stirling
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Wright) wrote on 24.12.00 in ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > On Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 11:36:00AM +0200, Kai Henningsen wrote: > > > There was a similar thread to this recently. The issue is that if you > > choose the wrong processor type, you may not even be able to comp

Re: About Celeron processor memory barrier problem

2000-12-25 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Wright) wrote on 24.12.00 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 11:36:00AM +0200, Kai Henningsen wrote: > There was a similar thread to this recently. The issue is that if you > choose the wrong processor type, you may not even be able to complain. Hmm ... I

Re: About Celeron processor memory barrier problem

2000-12-24 Thread The Doctor What
* Linus Torvalds ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [001224 16:27]: > One thing we _could_ potentially do is to simplify the CPU selection a > bit, and make it a two-stage process. Basically have a > > bool "Optimize for current CPU" CONFIG_CPU_CURRENT > > which most people who just want to get the best

Re: About Celeron processor memory barrier problem

2000-12-24 Thread Tim Wright
On Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 02:25:54PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > Indeed. Some of the issues end up just becoming compiler flags, which > means that anything that uses C is "tainted" by the processor choice. And > happily there isn't all that much non-C in the kernel any more. > > One thing we

Re: About Celeron processor memory barrier problem

2000-12-24 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Sun, 24 Dec 2000, Tim Wright wrote: > > > > Which is all fine, but maybe the kernel really ought to detect that > > problem and complain at boot time? > > > > Or does that happen already? > > There was a similar thread to this recently. The issue is that if you > choose the wrong process

Re: About Celeron processor memory barrier problem

2000-12-24 Thread Tim Wright
On Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 11:36:00AM +0200, Kai Henningsen wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Linus Torvalds) wrote on 23.12.00 in ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > On Thu, 23 Dec 1999, michael chen wrote: > > > I found that when I compiled the 2.4 kernel with the option > > > of Pentium III or Pe

Re: About Celeron processor memory barrier problem

2000-12-24 Thread Pavel Machek
Hi! > diff -Nur linux/include/asm-i386/system.h linux.new/include/asm-i386/system.h > --- linux/include/asm-i386/system.h Mon Dec 11 19:26:39 2000 > +++ linux.new/include/asm-i386/system.h Sat Dec 23 16:06:01 2000 > @@ -274,7 +274,14 @@ > #ifndef CONFIG_X86_XMM > #define mb() __asm__ __vo

Re: About Celeron processor memory barrier problem

2000-12-24 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Linus Torvalds) wrote on 23.12.00 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Thu, 23 Dec 1999, michael chen wrote: > > I found that when I compiled the 2.4 kernel with the option > > of Pentium III or Pentium 4 on a Celeron's PC, it could cause the > > system hang at very

Re: About Celeron processor memory barrier problem

2000-12-24 Thread Erik Mouw
On Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 10:45:14AM +0100, Jeffrey Rose wrote: > I also have a Celeron 600 in my Compaq 5000, but even with the output > below, I am not sure this is what Linus is talking about! I believe > Linus is trying to say, "We HAVE configurations set for that specific > architecture, so ple

Re: About Celeron processor memory barrier problem

2000-12-24 Thread Jeffrey Rose
Erik Mouw wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 23, 2000 at 09:21:51AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > A Celeron isn't a PIII, and you shouldn't tell the configure that it is. > > Well, some Celerons are. My laptop has a Celeron with a Coppermine > core, so it is PIII based. Here is the output from /proc/cpui

Re: About Celeron processor memory barrier problem

2000-12-23 Thread Matthias Schniedermeyer
> > I found that when I compiled the 2.4 kernel with the option > > of Pentium III or Pentium 4 on a Celeron's PC, it could cause the > > system hang at very beginning boot stage, and I found the problem > > is cause by the fact that Intel Celeron doesn't have a real memory >

Re: About Celeron processor memory barrier problem

2000-12-23 Thread Erik Mouw
On Sat, Dec 23, 2000 at 09:21:51AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: > A Celeron isn't a PIII, and you shouldn't tell the configure that it is. Well, some Celerons are. My laptop has a Celeron with a Coppermine core, so it is PIII based. Here is the output from /proc/cpuinfo: processor : 0 vend

Re: About Celeron processor memory barrier problem

2000-12-23 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Thu, 23 Dec 1999, michael chen wrote: > I found that when I compiled the 2.4 kernel with the option > of Pentium III or Pentium 4 on a Celeron's PC, it could cause the > system hang at very beginning boot stage, and I found the problem > is cause by the fact that Intel Ce

Re: About Celeron processor memory barrier problem

2000-12-23 Thread Erik Mouw
On Thu, Dec 23, 1999 at 05:24:43PM +0800, michael chen wrote: > I found that when I compiled the 2.4 kernel with the option > of Pentium III or Pentium 4 on a Celeron's PC, it could cause the > system hang at very beginning boot stage, and I found the problem > is cause by the

About Celeron processor memory barrier problem

2000-12-23 Thread michael chen
Hi, I found that when I compiled the 2.4 kernel with the option of Pentium III or Pentium 4 on a Celeron's PC, it could cause the system hang at very beginning boot stage, and I found the problem is cause by the fact that Intel Celeron doesn't have a real memory barrier,bu