Re: APM oops with Dell 5000e laptop

2000-11-18 Thread Pavel Machek
Hi! > > > Is there a way to uniquely identify the affected BIOSes at boot time and > > > Im looking at one with some pointers from Dell. It won't be in 2.2.18 so its > > quite likely a fixed BIOS will be out first anyway. > > Wherever the fix comes from, I sure hope it comes soon, because it's

Re: APM oops with Dell 5000e laptop

2000-11-17 Thread Brad Douglas
> > I don't believe doing this just to make a Dell detect properly is the right way to >go (regardless of my bias). I think the best we can do build a list of the systems >that are the same, but it's certainly not a preferred way. > > > > Any suggestions? > > The ideal approach is to ident an

Re: APM oops with Dell 5000e laptop

2000-11-17 Thread Alan Cox
> I don't believe doing this just to make a Dell detect properly is the right way to >go (regardless of my bias). I think the best we can do build a list of the systems >that are the same, but it's certainly not a preferred way. > > Any suggestions? The ideal approach is to ident and version

Re: APM oops with Dell 5000e laptop

2000-11-16 Thread Brad Douglas
> > I do not believe so. I tend to think that detecting these broken models is a >waste of kernel code (especially, if there's an effort to correct the problem). > > One idea the Dell folks suggested is walking the SMBIOS data table. That happens > to be something I want to do as its the only g

Re: APM oops with Dell 5000e laptop

2000-11-16 Thread Alan Cox
> I do not believe so. I tend to think that detecting these broken models is a waste >of kernel code (especially, if there's an effort to correct the problem). One idea the Dell folks suggested is walking the SMBIOS data table. That happens to be something I want to do as its the only good way

Re: APM oops with Dell 5000e laptop

2000-11-16 Thread Barry K. Nathan
John D. Kim wrote: > Well, there will be a great number of these laptops sold, not just through > dell, but other brands that buy from compal. But most of them will be > running Windows, and Windows seem to work fine with it. So these [snip] FWIW, Windows uses ACPI on these machines, not APM.

Re: APM oops with Dell 5000e laptop

2000-11-16 Thread Brad Douglas
> Alan Cox said once upon a time (Thu, 16 Nov 2000): > > > > I just got a Sceptre 6950 (also known as a Dell 5000e), I just installed > > > Red Hat 7.0 on it, and got an APM related oops at boot. > > > > Yep. This is not a Linux problem > > The kernel works around/ignores/disables other broken h

Re: APM oops with Dell 5000e laptop

2000-11-16 Thread John D. Kim
On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, Alan Cox wrote: > > The kernel works around/ignores/disables other broken hardware or broken > > features of otherwise working hardware with black lists. There will be > > many *many* of these laptops sold. > And I hope many many of these people demand BIOS upgrades or send

Re: APM oops with Dell 5000e laptop

2000-11-16 Thread Alan Cox
> The kernel works around/ignores/disables other broken hardware or broken > features of otherwise working hardware with black lists. There will be > many *many* of these laptops sold. And I hope many many of these people demand BIOS upgrades or send them back. > Is there a way to uniquely iden

Re: APM oops with Dell 5000e laptop

2000-11-16 Thread Dax Kelson
Alan Cox said once upon a time (Thu, 16 Nov 2000): > > I just got a Sceptre 6950 (also known as a Dell 5000e), I just installed > > Red Hat 7.0 on it, and got an APM related oops at boot. > > Yep. This is not a Linux problem The kernel works around/ignores/disables other broken hardware or broke

Re: APM oops with Dell 5000e laptop

2000-11-16 Thread Alan Cox
> I just got a Sceptre 6950 (also known as a Dell 5000e), I just installed > Red Hat 7.0 on it, and got an APM related oops at boot. Yep. This is not a Linux problem > Here is what got in /var/log/messages, I'm willing to try suggested fixes, > etc. The problem also happens with the 2.4 test ke

Re: APM oops with Dell 5000e laptop

2000-11-13 Thread Brad Douglas
> > I just got a Sceptre 6950 (also known as a Dell 5000e), I just installed > Red Hat 7.0 on it, and got an APM related oops at boot. > > I found that this was reported on l-k in late September with a couple > responses, but no resolution. > > Here are a couple detailed bug reports on this sam

APM oops with Dell 5000e laptop

2000-11-13 Thread Dax Kelson
I just got a Sceptre 6950 (also known as a Dell 5000e), I just installed Red Hat 7.0 on it, and got an APM related oops at boot. I found that this was reported on l-k in late September with a couple responses, but no resolution. Here are a couple detailed bug reports on this same problem, again