Re: 3C905b partial lockup in 2.4.5-pre5 and up to 2.4.6-pre1

2001-06-11 Thread Andrew Morton
"David S. Miller" wrote: > > Jeff Garzik writes: > > > [note I've not found anything in 2.4.5 where netif_carrier_ok prevents > > > the net layers queueing packets for an interface, and forwarding them > > > on for transmission]. > > > > we want netif_carrier_{on,off} to emit netlink message

Re: 3C905b partial lockup in 2.4.5-pre5 and up to 2.4.6-pre1

2001-06-10 Thread Jeff Garzik
Russell King wrote: > Indeed. However, I don't believe user space should _rely_ on the flag. > The reason is that there are network cards out there where the only way > to get the link status _is_ to transmit a packet, even on 10baseT. > > PCNET is one example - the "oh my god my link is down" s

Re: 3C905b partial lockup in 2.4.5-pre5 and up to 2.4.6-pre1

2001-06-10 Thread Russell King
On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 12:06:08PM -0400, Ben LaHaise wrote: > I doubt it's a change, more likely an undocumented requirement. Look at > it another way: is the transmitter ready when the link is down? No. > Why? Because if it does attempt to transmit a packet, it will get a > transmit error, bu

Re: 3C905b partial lockup in 2.4.5-pre5 and up to 2.4.6-pre1

2001-06-10 Thread arjan
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > Is this a change of requirements for ethernet drivers? Many other drivers > do exactly the same (drop the first few packets while they're negotiating > with a hub), unless they're using 10base2, even back to the days of 2.0 > kernels. I think it would

Re: 3C905b partial lockup in 2.4.5-pre5 and up to 2.4.6-pre1

2001-06-10 Thread Russell King
On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 01:54:13AM -0400, Ben LaHaise wrote: > I doubt it's related to pump: a few times I've seen the 3c59x driver drop > the first few transmit packets. Try loading the driver as a module and > putting the whole modprobe ; ifconfig ; ping set of commands > into a script and wat

Re: 3C905b partial lockup in 2.4.5-pre5 and up to 2.4.6-pre1

2001-06-09 Thread Glenn C. Hofmann
help. If you think of anything else that might be an issue, please let me know. Glenn C. Hofmann Andrew wrote: Date sent: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 11:35:53 +1000 From: Andrew Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: 3C905b partial lockup in 2.4

Re: 3C905b partial lockup in 2.4.5-pre5 and up to 2.4.6-pre1

2001-06-09 Thread Glenn C. Hofmann
Andrew, Although I don't run Redhat, your response tells me that, even though I was feeling that it was a kernel problem, it could be a userspace issue, which I also suspected. Debian updated their nettools today, so I will see if that helps in any way. Thanks for your help. Glenn C. H

Re: 3C905b partial lockup in 2.4.5-pre5 and up to 2.4.6-pre1

2001-06-09 Thread Andrew Morton
"Glenn C. Hofmann" wrote: > > I have tried 2.4.5-pre2 up to 2.4.6-pre1 with the same results. Everything boots > great and I can login fine. When I try to assign an IP via DHCP or ifconfig, the >system > sits and stares at me indefinitely. 2.4.5-pre4 didn't compile for me, but pre3 >works fi

3C905b partial lockup in 2.4.5-pre5 and up to 2.4.6-pre1

2001-06-09 Thread Glenn C. Hofmann
I have tried 2.4.5-pre2 up to 2.4.6-pre1 with the same results. Everything boots great and I can login fine. When I try to assign an IP via DHCP or ifconfig, the system sits and stares at me indefinitely. 2.4.5-pre4 didn't compile for me, but pre3 works fine and pre5 locks. There is keybo