Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and pseudo-authorities

2007-05-01 Thread Uwe Bugla
: Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and pseudo-authorities > Uwe Bugla wrote: > > > 1. You utmost personally are responsible for 4 ununsable kernels, as far > as bt8xx cards are concerned: 2.6.13, 2.6.14, 2.6.15, 2.6.16! > > 2. You did not e

Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and pseudo-authorities

2007-04-30 Thread Markus Rechberger
Manu, also for you please stop it, we know that Uwe writes abusive stuff but you don't have to go on with it. It's about the patch Trent wrote if you're not able to discuss it wait for others to comment it. I only saw subjective reasons why you are against it, but the actual patch doesn't cross y

Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and pseudo-authorities

2007-04-30 Thread Manu Abraham
Uwe Bugla wrote: > 1. You utmost personally are responsible for 4 ununsable kernels, as far as > bt8xx cards are concerned: 2.6.13, 2.6.14, 2.6.15, 2.6.16! > 2. You did not even want to imply to resolve that issue by incarnating that > "community and synergy principle" that linux community needs

Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and pseudo-authorities

2007-04-30 Thread Uwe Bugla
ist , Linux DVB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Betreff: Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and pseudo-authorities > Trent Piepho wrote: > > > The issue with dst is just a minor missing feature to fully support the > dvb > > helper module customi

Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and pseudo-authorities

2007-04-30 Thread hermann pitton
Krufky > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Linux DVB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Betreff: Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and > pseudo-authorities > > > On Mon, 30 Apr 2007, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > Anyway, I'll get out of t

Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and pseudo-authorities

2007-04-30 Thread Markus Rechberger
On 5/1/07, Manu Abraham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Trent Piepho wrote: > The issue with dst is just a minor missing feature to fully support the dvb > helper module customization system. So nobody needs to worry about this > anymore, the last two patches in this repository will fix it correctly

Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and pseudo-authorities

2007-04-30 Thread Uwe Bugla
> Betreff: Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and pseudo-authorities > On Mon, 30 Apr 2007, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > Anyway, I'll get out of the discussion. There's clearly some personality > > issues in the DVB area, and I don't know q

Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and pseudo-authorities

2007-04-30 Thread Manu Abraham
Trent Piepho wrote: > The issue with dst is just a minor missing feature to fully support the dvb > helper module customization system. So nobody needs to worry about this > anymore, the last two patches in this repository will fix it correctly. With regards to the dst, i have explained earlier

Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and pseudo-authorities

2007-04-30 Thread Trent Piepho
On Mon, 30 Apr 2007, Linus Torvalds wrote: > Anyway, I'll get out of the discussion. There's clearly some personality > issues in the DVB area, and I don't know quite _why_ that is, but Uwe, > you're definitely not helping. There isn't a problem here, just a lot of noise coming from one source. I

Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and pseudo-authorities

2007-04-30 Thread Markus Rechberger
On 4/30/07, Jan Engelhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Apr 30 2007 19:25, Uwe Bugla wrote: >THIS PATCH IS DONE TO AVOID RAM WASTE FOR CASES IN WHICH IT IS PROVEN THAT DST >AND DST_CA ARE NOT NEEDED AT ALL >[...] How much on the Theo-meter are we yet? it's enough, I told him that I'll

Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and pseudo-authorities

2007-04-30 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Apr 30 2007 19:25, Uwe Bugla wrote: >THIS PATCH IS DONE TO AVOID RAM WASTE FOR CASES IN WHICH IT IS PROVEN THAT DST >AND DST_CA ARE NOT NEEDED AT ALL >[...] How much on the Theo-meter are we yet? Jan -- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the b

Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and pseudo-authorities

2007-04-30 Thread Uwe Bugla
EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and pseudo-authorities > On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 19:25:47 +0200 > "Uwe Bugla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I did not manage to at least find one single unresolved module during > c

Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and pseudo-authorities

2007-04-30 Thread Andrew Morton
On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 19:25:47 +0200 "Uwe Bugla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I did not manage to at least find one single unresolved module during > compilation, and I have been working with this almost fantastic solution with > several kernels for months now! That isn't what Mauro is saying. W

Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and pseudo-authorities

2007-04-30 Thread Uwe Bugla
PROTECTED] Betreff: Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and pseudo-authorities > > > Uwe, you just made my kill-list. > > I've not actually done that in _years_. So you can feel proud. Your emails > will get automatically filtered to their own (ig

Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and pseudo-authorities

2007-04-30 Thread Linus Torvalds
Uwe, you just made my kill-list. I've not actually done that in _years_. So you can feel proud. Your emails will get automatically filtered to their own (ignored) folder. I told you why, and you didn't seem to understand at all. Linus - To unsubscribe from this list: send the

Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and pseudo-authorities

2007-04-30 Thread Uwe Bugla
Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and pseudo-authorities > Hi Helge and others, > > On Mon, 30 Apr 2007, Helge Hafting wrote: > > >> what the consequence is. To be truthful I would strategically prefare a > >> vacuum at the price that the wor

Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and pseudo-authorities

2007-04-30 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
Hi Helge and others, On Mon, 30 Apr 2007, Helge Hafting wrote: what the consequence is. To be truthful I would strategically prefare a vacuum at the price that the work isn't even done for months. ONLY IF there is a personnel vacuum the necessity for others to volunteer will arise. A suffic

Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and pseudo-authorities

2007-04-30 Thread Uwe Bugla
TED], linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Trent Piepho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Betreff: Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and pseudo-authorities > Uwe Bugla wrote: > > And I swear that this dvb-pll.c is completely obsolete for this > scenario! > > For that reason (old varia

Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and pseudo-authorities

2007-04-30 Thread Uwe Bugla
about kernel 2.6.21 and pseudo-authorities > Uwe Bugla wrote: > > Original-Nachricht > > Datum: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 13:21:29 +0200 > > Von: Helge Hafting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > An: Uwe Bugla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > CC: linux-kernel@

Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and pseudo-authorities

2007-04-30 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Mon, 30 Apr 2007, Uwe Bugla wrote: > > "If you want to change something, it's not fine to be entirely polite all the > time:" "entirely polite all the time" is totally different from "cannot _ever_ be polite". Also, quite frankly, in order to be impolite, you have to build up a certain a

Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and pseudo-authorities

2007-04-30 Thread Michael Krufky
Uwe Bugla wrote: > And I swear that this dvb-pll.c is completely obsolete for this scenario! > For that reason (old variant): > # CONFIG_DVB_TUNER_LGH06XF is not set > > And this old variant was NOT done by Trent Piepho, it was NOT done by Andrew > Quincey, > but it was produced by Michael Krufky

Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and pseudo-authorities

2007-04-30 Thread Markus Rechberger
@vger.kernel.org > Betreff: Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and pseudo-authorities > > >> Uwe Bugla wrote: >> >>> In this ten Emails you will yourself see the intellectual and technical >>> >> proof in how far Mr. Chehab is

Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and pseudo-authorities

2007-04-30 Thread Uwe Bugla
PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and pseudo-authorities > > > On Mon, 30 Apr 2007, Uwe Bugla wrote: > > > > So please Linus - rip that crap out of 2.6.21-git2. And if you do see > questions what parts you n

Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and pseudo-authorities

2007-04-30 Thread Helge Hafting
Uwe Bugla wrote: Original-Nachricht Datum: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 13:21:29 +0200 Von: Helge Hafting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> An: Uwe Bugla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Betreff: Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and pseudo

Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and pseudo-authorities

2007-04-30 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Mon, 30 Apr 2007, Uwe Bugla wrote: > > So please Linus - rip that crap out of 2.6.21-git2. And if you do see > questions what parts you need to rip out, please feel free to ask me > Uwe. I'll say this ONCE more. No. And unless you can become politer and more respectful and stop ranti

Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and pseudo-authorities

2007-04-30 Thread Uwe Bugla
], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and pseudo-authorities > On 4/30/07, Uwe Bugla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Original-Nachricht > > Datum: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 13:48:34 +0200 > > Von: &q

Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and pseudo-authorities

2007-04-30 Thread Markus Rechberger
TED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Betreff: Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and pseudo-authorities > On 4/30/07, Uwe Bugla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Ori

Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and pseudo-authorities

2007-04-30 Thread Uwe Bugla
MAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Betreff: Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and pseudo-authorities > On 4/30/07, Uwe Bugla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Original-Nachricht > > Datum: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 0

Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and pseudo-authorities

2007-04-30 Thread Markus Rechberger
ECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Betreff: Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and pseudo-authorities > Am Montag, den 30.04.2007, 01:00 +0200 schrieb Uwe Bugla: > > Original-Nachricht > > Datum: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 14:19

Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and pseudo-authorities

2007-04-30 Thread Uwe Bugla
Original-Nachricht Datum: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 13:21:29 +0200 Von: Helge Hafting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> An: Uwe Bugla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Betreff: Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and pseudo-authorities >

Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and pseudo-authorities

2007-04-30 Thread Thomas Gleixner
Uwe, On Mon, 2007-04-30 at 13:02 +0200, Uwe Bugla wrote: > > stupid and utmost hypocritic excuse for bare naked incompatibility, > > dumbness, > > wrong solidarity, kiddishness and technical incompetence. ... > > soap in Andrew Morton's face with this enourmous threat of incompetence, > > kiddish

Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and pseudo-authorities

2007-04-30 Thread Helge Hafting
Uwe Bugla wrote: In this ten Emails you will yourself see the intellectual and technical proof in how far Mr. Chehab is acting with nothing else but: a. Lies b. Unproven thesis c. Stigmatizations and so on. THIS MAN HAS NO IDEA, BUT HE HAS THE POWER! Please note that there are ways to repl

Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and pseudo-authorities

2007-04-30 Thread Uwe Bugla
etreff: Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and pseudo-authorities > Am Montag, den 30.04.2007, 01:00 +0200 schrieb Uwe Bugla: > > Original-Nachricht > > Datum: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 14:19:22 -0700 (PDT) > > Von: Linus Torvalds <[E

Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and pseudo-authorities

2007-04-29 Thread hermann pitton
Am Montag, den 30.04.2007, 01:00 +0200 schrieb Uwe Bugla: > Original-Nachricht > Datum: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 14:19:22 -0700 (PDT) > Von: Linus Torvalds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > An: Uwe Bugla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > linux-kerne