Re: [Scst-devel] Integration of SCST in the mainstream Linux kernel

2008-02-12 Thread Nicholas A. Bellinger
Greetings all, On Tue, 2008-02-12 at 17:05 +0100, Bart Van Assche wrote: > On Feb 6, 2008 1:11 AM, Nicholas A. Bellinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have always observed the case with LIO SE/iSCSI target mode ... > > Hello Nicholas, > > Are you sure that the LIO-SE kernel module source code

Re: [Scst-devel] Integration of SCST in the mainstream Linux kernel

2008-02-12 Thread Bart Van Assche
On Feb 6, 2008 1:11 AM, Nicholas A. Bellinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have always observed the case with LIO SE/iSCSI target mode ... Hello Nicholas, Are you sure that the LIO-SE kernel module source code is ready for inclusion in the mainstream Linux kernel ? As you know I tried to test t

Re: [Scst-devel] Integration of SCST in the mainstream Linux kernel

2008-02-08 Thread Luben Tuikov
--- On Fri, 2/8/08, Nicholas A. Bellinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is there an open iSCSI Target implementation which > does NOT > > issue commands to sub-target devices via the SCSI > mid-layer, but > > bypasses it completely? > > > >Luben > > > > Hi Luben, > > I am guessing you mean

Re: [Scst-devel] Integration of SCST in the mainstream Linux kernel

2008-02-08 Thread Nicholas A. Bellinger
On Thu, 2008-02-07 at 12:37 -0800, Luben Tuikov wrote: > Is there an open iSCSI Target implementation which does NOT > issue commands to sub-target devices via the SCSI mid-layer, but > bypasses it completely? > >Luben > Hi Luben, I am guessing you mean futher down the stack, which I don't

Re: [Scst-devel] Integration of SCST in the mainstream Linux kernel

2008-02-07 Thread Luben Tuikov
Is there an open iSCSI Target implementation which does NOT issue commands to sub-target devices via the SCSI mid-layer, but bypasses it completely? Luben -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo inf

Re: [Scst-devel] Integration of SCST in the mainstream Linux kernel

2008-02-07 Thread Nicholas A. Bellinger
On Thu, 2008-02-07 at 14:13 +0100, Bart Van Assche wrote: > Since the focus of this thread shifted somewhat in the last few > messages, I'll try to summarize what has been discussed so far: > - There was a number of participants who joined this discussion > spontaneously. This suggests that there

Re: [Scst-devel] Integration of SCST in the mainstream Linux kernel

2008-02-07 Thread Bart Van Assche
Since the focus of this thread shifted somewhat in the last few messages, I'll try to summarize what has been discussed so far: - There was a number of participants who joined this discussion spontaneously. This suggests that there is considerable interest in networked storage and iSCSI. - It has b

Re: [Scst-devel] Integration of SCST in the mainstream Linux kernel

2008-02-05 Thread Nicholas A. Bellinger
On Wed, 2008-02-06 at 10:29 +0900, FUJITA Tomonori wrote: > On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:09:15 +0100 > Matteo Tescione <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 5-02-2008 14:38, "FUJITA Tomonori" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 08:14:01 +0100 > > > Tomasz Chmielewski <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [Scst-devel] Integration of SCST in the mainstream Linux kernel

2008-02-05 Thread FUJITA Tomonori
On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:09:15 +0100 Matteo Tescione <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 5-02-2008 14:38, "FUJITA Tomonori" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 08:14:01 +0100 > > Tomasz Chmielewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> James Bottomley schrieb: > >> > >>> These are both

Re: [Scst-devel] Integration of SCST in the mainstream Linux kernel

2008-02-05 Thread Matteo Tescione
On 5-02-2008 14:38, "FUJITA Tomonori" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 08:14:01 +0100 > Tomasz Chmielewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> James Bottomley schrieb: >> >>> These are both features being independently worked on, are they not? >>> Even if they weren't, the combinatio

Re: [Scst-devel] Integration of SCST in the mainstream Linux kernel

2008-02-05 Thread FUJITA Tomonori
On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 17:07:07 +0100 Tomasz Chmielewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > FUJITA Tomonori schrieb: > > On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 08:14:01 +0100 > > Tomasz Chmielewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> James Bottomley schrieb: > >> > >>> These are both features being independently worked on,

Re: [Scst-devel] Integration of SCST in the mainstream Linux kernel

2008-02-05 Thread Ming Zhang
On Tue, 2008-02-05 at 17:07 +0100, Tomasz Chmielewski wrote: > FUJITA Tomonori schrieb: > > On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 08:14:01 +0100 > > Tomasz Chmielewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> James Bottomley schrieb: > >> > >>> These are both features being independently worked on, are they not? > >>> E

Re: [Scst-devel] Integration of SCST in the mainstream Linux kernel

2008-02-05 Thread Tomasz Chmielewski
FUJITA Tomonori schrieb: On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 08:14:01 +0100 Tomasz Chmielewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: James Bottomley schrieb: These are both features being independently worked on, are they not? Even if they weren't, the combination of the size of SCST in kernel plus the problem of havin

Re: [Scst-devel] Integration of SCST in the mainstream Linux kernel

2008-02-05 Thread FUJITA Tomonori
On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 20:07:01 -0600 "Chris Weiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Feb 4, 2008 11:30 AM, Douglas Gilbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Alan Cox wrote: > > >> better. So for example, I personally suspect that ATA-over-ethernet is > > >> way > > >> better than some crazy SCSI-over-TCP

Re: [Scst-devel] Integration of SCST in the mainstream Linux kernel

2008-02-05 Thread FUJITA Tomonori
On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 05:43:10 +0100 Matteo Tescione <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > And sorry for intrusion, i am not a developer but i work everyday with iscsi > and i found it fantastic. > Altough Aoe, Fcoe and so on could be better, we have to look in real world > implementations what is

Re: [Scst-devel] Integration of SCST in the mainstream Linux kernel

2008-02-05 Thread FUJITA Tomonori
On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 08:14:01 +0100 Tomasz Chmielewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > James Bottomley schrieb: > > > These are both features being independently worked on, are they not? > > Even if they weren't, the combination of the size of SCST in kernel plus > > the problem of having to find a m

Re: [Scst-devel] Integration of SCST in the mainstream Linux kernel

2008-02-04 Thread Tomasz Chmielewski
James Bottomley schrieb: These are both features being independently worked on, are they not? Even if they weren't, the combination of the size of SCST in kernel plus the problem of having to find a migration path for the current STGT users still looks to me to involve the greater amount of work

Re: [Scst-devel] Integration of SCST in the mainstream Linux kernel

2008-02-04 Thread James Bottomley
On Tue, 2008-02-05 at 05:43 +0100, Matteo Tescione wrote: > Hi all, > And sorry for intrusion, i am not a developer but i work everyday with iscsi > and i found it fantastic. > Altough Aoe, Fcoe and so on could be better, we have to look in real world > implementations what is needed *now*, and if

Re: [Scst-devel] Integration of SCST in the mainstream Linux kernel

2008-02-04 Thread Matteo Tescione
Hi all, And sorry for intrusion, i am not a developer but i work everyday with iscsi and i found it fantastic. Altough Aoe, Fcoe and so on could be better, we have to look in real world implementations what is needed *now*, and if we look at vmware world, virtual iron, microsoft clustering etc, the

Re: [Scst-devel] Integration of SCST in the mainstream Linux kernel

2008-02-04 Thread Chris Weiss
On Feb 4, 2008 11:30 AM, Douglas Gilbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alan Cox wrote: > >> better. So for example, I personally suspect that ATA-over-ethernet is way > >> better than some crazy SCSI-over-TCP crap, but I'm biased for simple and > >> low-level, and against those crazy SCSI people to

Re: [Scst-devel] Integration of SCST in the mainstream Linux kernel

2008-02-04 Thread 4news
On lunedì 4 febbraio 2008, Linus Torvalds wrote: > So from a purely personal standpoint, I'd like to say that I'm not really > interested in iSCSI (and I don't quite know why I've been cc'd on this > whole discussion) and think that other approaches are potentially *much* > better. So for example,

Re: [Scst-devel] Integration of SCST in the mainstream Linux kernel

2008-02-01 Thread Vladislav Bolkhovitin
Vladislav Bolkhovitin wrote: Bart Van Assche wrote: On Jan 31, 2008 5:25 PM, Joe Landman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Vladislav Bolkhovitin wrote: Actually, I don't know what kind of conclusions it is possible to make from disktest's results (maybe only how throughput gets bigger or slower

Re: [Scst-devel] Integration of SCST in the mainstream Linux kernel

2008-02-01 Thread Vladislav Bolkhovitin
David Dillow wrote: On Thu, 2008-01-31 at 18:08 +0100, Bart Van Assche wrote: If anyone has a suggestion for a better test than dd to compare the performance of SCSI storage protocols, please let it know. xdd on /dev/sda, sdb, etc. using -dio to do direct IO seems to work decently, though it

Re: [Scst-devel] Integration of SCST in the mainstream Linux kernel

2008-02-01 Thread Vladislav Bolkhovitin
Bart Van Assche wrote: On Jan 31, 2008 5:25 PM, Joe Landman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Vladislav Bolkhovitin wrote: Actually, I don't know what kind of conclusions it is possible to make from disktest's results (maybe only how throughput gets bigger or slower with increasing number of threads

Re: [Scst-devel] Integration of SCST in the mainstream Linux kernel

2008-01-31 Thread David Dillow
On Thu, 2008-01-31 at 18:08 +0100, Bart Van Assche wrote: > If anyone has a suggestion for a better test than dd to compare the > performance of SCSI storage protocols, please let it know. xdd on /dev/sda, sdb, etc. using -dio to do direct IO seems to work decently, though it is hard (ie, impossi

Re: [Scst-devel] Integration of SCST in the mainstream Linux kernel

2008-01-31 Thread Joe Landman
Bart Van Assche wrote: I have ran some tests with Bonnie++, but found out that on a fast network like IB the filesystem used for the test has a really big impact on the test results. This is true of the file systems when physically directly connected to the unit as well. Some file systems ar

Re: [Scst-devel] Integration of SCST in the mainstream Linux kernel

2008-01-31 Thread Bart Van Assche
On Jan 31, 2008 5:25 PM, Joe Landman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Vladislav Bolkhovitin wrote: > > Actually, I don't know what kind of conclusions it is possible to make > > from disktest's results (maybe only how throughput gets bigger or slower > > with increasing number of threads?), it's a good

Re: [Scst-devel] Integration of SCST in the mainstream Linux kernel

2008-01-31 Thread Joe Landman
Vladislav Bolkhovitin wrote: Bart Van Assche wrote: [...] I can run disktest on the same setups I ran dd on. This will take some time however. Disktest was already referenced in the beginning of the performance comparison thread, but its results are not very interesting if we are going to

Re: [Scst-devel] Integration of SCST in the mainstream Linux kernel

2008-01-29 Thread Vu Pham
FUJITA Tomonori wrote: On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 13:31:52 -0800 Roland Dreier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > . . STGT read SCST read.STGT read SCST read. > . . performance performance . performance performance . >