Pavel Machek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Common denominator should be used. That includes 80 columns.
Yep, that's really obsolete. Perhaps we should agree on some
100 columns? And/or 4-characters tabs maybe :-)
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On Sat, 2007-05-12 at 23:03 -0700, Pete Zaitcev wrote:
> I see your point, and it makes sense, but I'm not sure I agree completely.
> Maybe I'm traumatized by myterious rejects which happened to me before.
> Looking at the patch with vi showed absolutely no clue why it failed.
On the occasions tha
On Sun, 13 May 2007 13:39:48 +0800, David Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Please don't use my work email address unless I _really_ need to be
> wearing my tinfoil hat when I read it.
I'll keep it in mind, sorry.
> But we'd be wrong -- just as you are. SPF is utterly moronic because it
> s
Please don't use my work email address unless I _really_ need to be
wearing my tinfoil hat when I read it.
On Sat, 2007-05-12 at 09:35 -0700, Pete Zaitcev wrote:
> On Tue, 08 May 2007 18:52:31 +0100, David Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 18:45 +0100, Maciej W. Rozyck
On Sun, 2007-05-13 at 01:20 +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > It was °C, and that's IMHO better readable than some kind of
> > "degrees C".
>
> It is more readable for you, and more readable on me while in desktop
> X. But on Zaurus and on console I see "???C", and I definitely prefer
> "degrees C" to
Hi!
> > > > > > And how about serial terminals?
> > > > >
> > > > > It works fine over serial terminals. Why wouldn't it?
> > > >
> > > > He probably means serial terminals... like physical vt100. I used to
> > > > have one (vt302 compatible or something). Most emulators still
> > > > emulate v
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 01:21:16PM +, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
>
> > > > > And how about serial terminals?
> > > >
> > > > It works fine over serial terminals. Why wouldn't it?
> > >
> > > He probably means serial terminals... like physical vt100. I used to
> > > have one (vt302 compatible
On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 08:27:00PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
> > One peculiar thing I have observed is how all this "UTF-8 in names"
> > nonsense is being pushed by western Europeans. Why? That's because
> > their umlauts are grandfathered in, and because English speakers _can_
> > read their names ap
> I have to disagree here. It is using the native alphabet for the name
> which is very rude, because non-native hackers cannot read it. This is
I think you mean "non Amercian". The majority of the human race don't
speak English, and you could probably make a good case that kernel tree
should be i
On Mon, 7 May 2007 22:23:11 +0100, Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We had this discussion before. Kernel sources should use utf-8 for
> comments where neccessary. Many names cannot be correctly represented in
> US ascii, and mangling them is just plain rude.
I have to disagree here. It is u
On Tue, 08 May 2007 18:52:31 +0100, David Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 18:45 +0100, Maciej W. Rozycki wrote:
> > Well, my name has an acute above "o" and a dot above "z", but I do not
> > have such a high expectation as to have it correctly spelled in comments
>
Hi!
> > > > And how about serial terminals?
> > >
> > > It works fine over serial terminals. Why wouldn't it?
> >
> > He probably means serial terminals... like physical vt100. I used to
> > have one (vt302 compatible or something). Most emulators still
> > emulate vt100, and yes, vt100 predate
On 5/11/07, Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Even with fbdev... you are limited to 512 characters iirc. So.. who
> has authority to say which subset of utf-8 is ok?
This is a bug in fbdev and currently under discussion as there is no sane
reason to enforce the 512 symbol limit in the fbdev
> Even with fbdev... you are limited to 512 characters iirc. So.. who
> has authority to say which subset of utf-8 is ok?
This is a bug in fbdev and currently under discussion as there is no sane
reason to enforce the 512 symbol limit in the fbdev case (especially on a
large modern system)
> (Plu
On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 20:33 +, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Even with fbdev... you are limited to 512 characters iirc. So.. who
> has authority to say which subset of utf-8 is ok?
The user can load whatever font they want.
> (Plus there is still lot of vga consoles out there -- all fedora users
> af
Hi!
> > Considering Linux only -- does our text-mode VGA console driver make
> > any effort to print an arbitrary UTF-8-encoded text
> > correctly? What does it do when it runs beyond the limit of 512
> > characters?
>
> I've no idea -- I haven't used the VGA text-mode console for years
> ei
On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 15:23 +0100, Maciej W. Rozycki wrote:
> I am pretty darn sure my name can be spelled correctly, but can it be
> reasonably assured to be printed correctly on a reasonable subset of
> systems out there?
Yes. I haven't used a system on which it cannot for a number of years
On Tue, 8 May 2007, David Woodhouse wrote:
> It's not an issue which needs resolving. We can spell your name just
> fine; we just need Pavel to quit whining and join us in the 21st
> century.
I am pretty darn sure my name can be spelled correctly, but can it be
reasonably assured to be printed
On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 18:45 +0100, Maciej W. Rozycki wrote:
> Well, my name has an acute above "o" and a dot above "z", but I do not
> have such a high expectation as to have it correctly spelled in comments
> and elsewhere within some code before I am able to get it right in
> official documen
Maciej W. Rozycki wrote:
On Tue, 8 May 2007, Satyam Sharma wrote:
Hmmm ... what if David was German and had a couple of umlauts in his
name :-) One would expect to at least _spell_ his own name properly in
his code. Sources need to take care of that too (but we better stick
to only UTF-8 fo
On Tue, 8 May 2007, Satyam Sharma wrote:
> Hmmm ... what if David was German and had a couple of umlauts in his
> name :-) One would expect to at least _spell_ his own name properly in
> his code. Sources need to take care of that too (but we better stick
> to only UTF-8 for source files, wouldn't
Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
On 5/7/07, Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Mon, 7 May 2007 19:49:50 +
Pavel Machek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Mon 2007-05-07 16:10:53, David Woodhouse wrote:
On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 14:04 +, Pavel Machek wrote:
Can we stick to a
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 10:38:12PM +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:
> On Mon 2007-05-07 20:51:37, David Woodhouse wrote:
> > On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 19:49 +, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > > We had this discussion before. Kernel sources should be us-ascii.
> > > utf-8 is ok for documentation.
> >
> > /* Thi
> > We had this discussion before. Kernel sources should use utf-8 for
> > comments where neccessary. Many names cannot be correctly represented in
> > US ascii, and mangling them is just plain rude.
>
> So should we all start writing our names in native alphabets? And comments
> too?
Well we do
On 5/7/07, Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Mon, 7 May 2007 19:49:50 +
Pavel Machek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon 2007-05-07 16:10:53, David Woodhouse wrote:
> > On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 14:04 +, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > > Can we stick to ascii in sources?
> >
> > No. Please join
> ...which is pretty unhelpful. We still stick to 80 columns in the
> code, and bigger displays certainly predate utf-8 compatibility. Plus,
> you'd have to convert large part of Czech republic before I could
> reasonably use utf-8).
Maybe its about time they started. And since you can flip an edi
On Mon, 7 May 2007 19:49:50 +
Pavel Machek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon 2007-05-07 16:10:53, David Woodhouse wrote:
> > On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 14:04 +, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > > Can we stick to ascii in sources?
> >
> > No. Please join us in the 21st century.
>
> We had this discu
On Mon 2007-05-07 20:51:37, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 19:49 +, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > We had this discussion before. Kernel sources should be us-ascii.
> > utf-8 is ok for documentation.
>
> /* This _is_ documentation. Go away. */
No, that's a comment. Fix your code.
(
On 5/8/07, Pavel Machek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Mon 2007-05-07 16:10:53, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 14:04 +, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > Can we stick to ascii in sources?
>
> No. Please join us in the 21st century.
We had this discussion before. Kernel sources should be
On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 19:49 +, Pavel Machek wrote:
> We had this discussion before. Kernel sources should be us-ascii.
> utf-8 is ok for documentation.
/* This _is_ documentation. Go away. */
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On Mon 2007-05-07 16:10:53, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 14:04 +, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > Can we stick to ascii in sources?
>
> No. Please join us in the 21st century.
We had this discussion before. Kernel sources should be us-ascii.
utf-8 is ok for documentation.
On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 14:04 +, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Can we stick to ascii in sources?
No. Please join us in the 21st century.
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On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 02:04:54PM +, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
>
> > This probably should be marked as BROKEN because, according
> > to David Woodhouse, EC-acccess method will change. Plus currently
> > it lacks mutexes. So this driver is just for reference. Converted
> > from the battery-2.6
Hi!
> This probably should be marked as BROKEN because, according
> to David Woodhouse, EC-acccess method will change. Plus currently
> it lacks mutexes. So this driver is just for reference. Converted
> from the battery-2.6 repository, 1:1.
>
> But nevertheless it should work.
>
> Signed-off-by
This probably should be marked as BROKEN because, according
to David Woodhouse, EC-acccess method will change. Plus currently
it lacks mutexes. So this driver is just for reference. Converted
from the battery-2.6 repository, 1:1.
But nevertheless it should work.
Signed-off-by: Anton Vorontsov <[E
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