On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 11:07:31AM +0200, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 04:09:41PM -0400, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> > On Tue, May 07, 2019 at 10:24:58AM +1000, NeilBrown wrote:
> > > Interesting perspective though doesn't NFSv4 explicitly allow
> > > client-side ACL enforcemen
On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 04:09:41PM -0400, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> On Tue, May 07, 2019 at 10:24:58AM +1000, NeilBrown wrote:
> > Interesting perspective though doesn't NFSv4 explicitly allow
> > client-side ACL enforcement in the case of delegations?
>
> Not really. What you're probably thi
On Tue, May 07, 2019 at 10:24:58AM +1000, NeilBrown wrote:
> Interesting perspective though doesn't NFSv4 explicitly allow
> client-side ACL enforcement in the case of delegations?
Not really. What you're probably thinking of is the single ACE that the
server can return on granting a delegat
On Tue, May 07, 2019 at 04:07:21AM -0400, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 11:35 AM J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, May 02, 2019 at 12:02:33PM +1000, NeilBrown wrote:
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> > > Silently not copying the ACLs is probably not a good idea as it might
> > > result in inappropriate
On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 11:35 AM J. Bruce Fields wrote:
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> On Thu, May 02, 2019 at 12:02:33PM +1000, NeilBrown wrote:
> > Silently not copying the ACLs is probably not a good idea as it might
> > result in inappropriate permissions being given away. So if the
> > sysadmin wants this (and some
On Fri, May 03 2019, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> On Thu, May 02, 2019 at 12:02:33PM +1000, NeilBrown wrote:
>> On Tue, Dec 06 2016, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
>>
>> > On Tue, Dec 06, 2016 at 02:18:31PM +0100, Andreas Gruenbacher wrote:
>> >> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
>> >>
On Fri, May 03, 2019 at 01:41:25PM -0400, Amir Goldstein wrote:
> On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 1:31 PM J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, May 03, 2019 at 01:26:01PM -0400, Amir Goldstein wrote:
> > > On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 12:03 PM J. Bruce Fields
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, May 02, 2019
On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 1:31 PM J. Bruce Fields wrote:
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> On Fri, May 03, 2019 at 01:26:01PM -0400, Amir Goldstein wrote:
> > On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 12:03 PM J. Bruce Fields
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, May 02, 2019 at 12:02:33PM +1000, NeilBrown wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Dec 06 2016, J. Bruce Fi
On 5/3/19 10:27 AM, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> Christoph also had some objections to the implementation which I think
> were addressed, but I could be wrong.
I'm certainly no expert, but yes, the objections to the RichACL patches
were addressed and not really counter challenged. It seems like a c
On Fri, May 03, 2019 at 01:26:01PM -0400, Amir Goldstein wrote:
> On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 12:03 PM J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, May 02, 2019 at 12:02:33PM +1000, NeilBrown wrote:
> > > On Tue, Dec 06 2016, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Tue, Dec 06, 2016 at 02:18:31PM +0100, Andr
On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 12:03 PM J. Bruce Fields wrote:
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> On Thu, May 02, 2019 at 12:02:33PM +1000, NeilBrown wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 06 2016, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, Dec 06, 2016 at 02:18:31PM +0100, Andreas Gruenbacher wrote:
> > >> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Miklos Szered
On Thu, May 02, 2019 at 12:02:33PM +1000, NeilBrown wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 06 2016, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Dec 06, 2016 at 02:18:31PM +0100, Andreas Gruenbacher wrote:
> >> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> >> > On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 12:24 AM, Andreas Grünbache
On Thu, May 02, 2019 at 05:51:12PM +, Goetz, Patrick G wrote:
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> On 5/2/19 12:44 PM, Andreas Gruenbacher wrote:
> > On Thu, 2 May 2019 at 19:27, Goetz, Patrick G
> > wrote:
> >> On 5/1/19 10:57 PM, NeilBrown wrote:
> >>> Support some day support for nfs4 acls were added to ext4 (not a to
Am Fr., 3. Mai 2019 um 01:24 Uhr schrieb NeilBrown :
> On Thu, May 02 2019, Andreas Gruenbacher wrote:
> > On Thu, 2 May 2019 at 05:57, NeilBrown wrote:
> >> On Wed, May 01 2019, Amir Goldstein wrote:
> >> > On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 10:03 PM NeilBrown wrote:
> >> >> On Tue, Dec 06 2016, J. Bruce Fi
On Thu, May 02 2019, Andreas Gruenbacher wrote:
> On Thu, 2 May 2019 at 05:57, NeilBrown wrote:
>> On Wed, May 01 2019, Amir Goldstein wrote:
>> > On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 10:03 PM NeilBrown wrote:
>> >> On Tue, Dec 06 2016, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
>> >> > On Tue, Dec 06, 2016 at 02:18:31PM +0100,
On Thu, May 02 2019, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 10:05 AM Andreas Gruenbacher
> wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 2 May 2019 at 05:57, NeilBrown wrote:
>> > On Wed, May 01 2019, Amir Goldstein wrote:
>> > > On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 10:03 PM NeilBrown wrote:
>> > >> On Tue, Dec 06 2016, J.
On 5/2/19 12:44 PM, Andreas Gruenbacher wrote:
> On Thu, 2 May 2019 at 19:27, Goetz, Patrick G wrote:
>> On 5/1/19 10:57 PM, NeilBrown wrote:
>>> Support some day support for nfs4 acls were added to ext4 (not a totally
>>> ridiculous suggestion). We would then want NFS to allow it's ACLs to be
On Thu, 2 May 2019 at 19:16, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> On Thu, May 02, 2019 at 05:08:14PM +0200, Andreas Grünbacher wrote:
> > You'll still see permissions that differ from what the filesystem
> > enforces, and copy-up would change that behavior.
>
> That's always true, and this issue isn't really
On Thu, 2 May 2019 at 19:27, Goetz, Patrick G wrote:
> On 5/1/19 10:57 PM, NeilBrown wrote:
> > Support some day support for nfs4 acls were added to ext4 (not a totally
> > ridiculous suggestion). We would then want NFS to allow it's ACLs to be
> > copied up.
>
> Is there some reason why there ha
On 5/1/19 10:57 PM, NeilBrown wrote:
> Support some day support for nfs4 acls were added to ext4 (not a totally
> ridiculous suggestion). We would then want NFS to allow it's ACLs to be
> copied up.
Is there some reason why there hasn't been a greater effort to add NFSv4
ACL support to the main
On Thu, May 02, 2019 at 05:08:14PM +0200, Andreas Grünbacher wrote:
> You'll still see permissions that differ from what the filesystem
> enforces, and copy-up would change that behavior.
That's always true, and this issue isn't really specific to NFSv4 ACLs
(or ACLs at all), it already exists wit
Am Do., 2. Mai 2019 um 16:28 Uhr schrieb Miklos Szeredi :
> On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 10:05 AM Andreas Gruenbacher
> wrote:
> > On Thu, 2 May 2019 at 05:57, NeilBrown wrote:
> > > On Wed, May 01 2019, Amir Goldstein wrote:
> > > > On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 10:03 PM NeilBrown wrote:
> > > >> On Tue, D
On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 10:05 AM Andreas Gruenbacher wrote:
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> On Thu, 2 May 2019 at 05:57, NeilBrown wrote:
> > On Wed, May 01 2019, Amir Goldstein wrote:
> > > On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 10:03 PM NeilBrown wrote:
> > >> On Tue, Dec 06 2016, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> > >> > On Tue, Dec 06, 2016 at 0
On Thu, 2 May 2019 at 05:57, NeilBrown wrote:
> On Wed, May 01 2019, Amir Goldstein wrote:
> > On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 10:03 PM NeilBrown wrote:
> >> On Tue, Dec 06 2016, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> >> > On Tue, Dec 06, 2016 at 02:18:31PM +0100, Andreas Gruenbacher wrote:
> >> >> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016
On Wed, May 01 2019, Amir Goldstein wrote:
> On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 10:03 PM NeilBrown wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 06 2016, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
>>
>> > On Tue, Dec 06, 2016 at 02:18:31PM +0100, Andreas Gruenbacher wrote:
>> >> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
>> >> > On Tue
On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 10:03 PM NeilBrown wrote:
>
> On Tue, Dec 06 2016, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Dec 06, 2016 at 02:18:31PM +0100, Andreas Gruenbacher wrote:
> >> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> >> > On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 12:24 AM, Andreas Grünbacher
> >> >
On Tue, Dec 06 2016, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 06, 2016 at 02:18:31PM +0100, Andreas Gruenbacher wrote:
>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
>> > On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 12:24 AM, Andreas Grünbacher
>> > wrote:
>> >> 2016-12-06 0:19 GMT+01:00 Andreas Grünbacher
>>
On Tue, Dec 06, 2016 at 02:18:31PM +0100, Andreas Gruenbacher wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 12:24 AM, Andreas Grünbacher
> > wrote:
> >> 2016-12-06 0:19 GMT+01:00 Andreas Grünbacher
> >> :
> >
> >>> It's not hard to come up with a heur
On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 12:24 AM, Andreas Grünbacher
> wrote:
>> 2016-12-06 0:19 GMT+01:00 Andreas Grünbacher :
>
>>> It's not hard to come up with a heuristic that determines if a
>>> system.nfs4_acl value is equivalent to a file mode, and
On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 12:24 AM, Andreas Grünbacher
wrote:
> 2016-12-06 0:19 GMT+01:00 Andreas Grünbacher :
>> It's not hard to come up with a heuristic that determines if a
>> system.nfs4_acl value is equivalent to a file mode, and to ignore the
>> attribute in that case. (The file mode is trans
2016-12-06 0:19 GMT+01:00 Andreas Grünbacher :
> 2016-12-05 23:58 GMT+01:00 Patrick Plagwitz :
>> On 12/05/2016 08:37 PM, Andreas Grünbacher wrote:
>>> 2016-12-05 17:25 GMT+01:00 J. Bruce Fields :
On Mon, Dec 05, 2016 at 04:36:03PM +0100, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 4:19
2016-12-05 23:58 GMT+01:00 Patrick Plagwitz :
> On 12/05/2016 08:37 PM, Andreas Grünbacher wrote:
>> 2016-12-05 17:25 GMT+01:00 J. Bruce Fields :
>>> On Mon, Dec 05, 2016 at 04:36:03PM +0100, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 4:19 PM, J. Bruce Fields
wrote:
>> Can NFS peo
On 12/05/2016 08:37 PM, Andreas Grünbacher wrote:
> 2016-12-05 17:25 GMT+01:00 J. Bruce Fields :
>> On Mon, Dec 05, 2016 at 04:36:03PM +0100, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
>>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 4:19 PM, J. Bruce Fields
>>> wrote:
> Can NFS people comment on this? Where does the nfs4_acl come fr
2016-12-05 17:25 GMT+01:00 J. Bruce Fields :
> On Mon, Dec 05, 2016 at 04:36:03PM +0100, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 4:19 PM, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
>> >> Can NFS people comment on this? Where does the nfs4_acl come from?
>> >
>> > This is the interface the NFS client provides
On 12/05/2016 05:25 PM, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 05, 2016 at 04:36:03PM +0100, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 4:19 PM, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
Can NFS people comment on this? Where does the nfs4_acl come from?
>>>
>>> This is the interface the NFS client provides
On Mon, Dec 05, 2016 at 04:36:03PM +0100, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 4:19 PM, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> >> Can NFS people comment on this? Where does the nfs4_acl come from?
> >
> > This is the interface the NFS client provides for applications to modify
> > NFSv4 ACLs on serve
On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 4:19 PM, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
>> Can NFS people comment on this? Where does the nfs4_acl come from?
>
> This is the interface the NFS client provides for applications to modify
> NFSv4 ACLs on servers that support them.
Fine, but why are we seeing this xattr on exports w
On Mon, Dec 05, 2016 at 10:28:18AM +0100, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> [Added a few more CCs]
>
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 1:51 AM, Patrick Plagwitz
> wrote:
> > Mounting an overlayfs with an NFSv4 lowerdir and an ext4 upperdir causes
> > copy_up operations, specifically the function copy_up.c:ovl_copy
[Added a few more CCs]
On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 1:51 AM, Patrick Plagwitz
wrote:
> Mounting an overlayfs with an NFSv4 lowerdir and an ext4 upperdir causes
> copy_up operations, specifically the function copy_up.c:ovl_copy_xattr, to
> fail with EOPNOTSUPP.
> For example, having the following fold
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