Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-09-01 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Sat, 1 Sep 2007, Sam Ravnborg wrote: > On Sat, Sep 01, 2007 at 06:44:06AM -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > > > > > while (1) { > > > > printf("%*s%s ", indent - 1, "", menu->prompt->text); > > > > + switch (sym->maturity) { > > > > + case M_

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-09-01 Thread Sam Ravnborg
On Sat, Sep 01, 2007 at 06:44:06AM -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > > > while (1) { > > > printf("%*s%s ", indent - 1, "", menu->prompt->text); > > > + switch (sym->maturity) { > > > + case M_EXPERIMENTAL: > > > + printf("(EXPERIMENTAL) "); > > > +

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-09-01 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007, Randy Dunlap wrote: > On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 23:05:57 +0100 Simon Arlott wrote: > > What about something like this? I'm not sure if the addition to > > sym_init is desirable... I also had to prefix _ to the name for > > now otherwise it conflicts badly with the current symbols.

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-08-31 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007, Jeff Garzik wrote: > 'deprecrated' and 'obsolete' are matters of discussed opinion, > describing the utility of the code in question. 'broken' describes > the state of the code itself. > > Clear difference. precisely. thank you for making my point for me. rday --

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-08-31 Thread Jeff Garzik
Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Fri, 31 Aug 2007, Jeff Garzik wrote: Robert P. J. Day wrote: i'm sure i'm going to get shouted down here, but i really disagree with "BROKEN" being considered a "maturity level". IMHO, things like EXPERIMENTAL, DEPRECATED and OBSOLETE represent maturity levels, fo

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-08-31 Thread Randy Dunlap
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 17:00:57 -0400 (EDT) Robert P. J. Day wrote: > On Fri, 31 Aug 2007, Randy Dunlap wrote: > > > What I like about the patch is that it associates some kconfig > > symbol with prompt strings, so that we don't have to edit > > "(EXPERIMENTAL)" all the darn time (e.g.). > > > > I'd

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-08-31 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007, Randy Dunlap wrote: > What I like about the patch is that it associates some kconfig > symbol with prompt strings, so that we don't have to edit > "(EXPERIMENTAL)" all the darn time (e.g.). > > I'd be quite happy with calling it "status" rather than "maturity", > and with bein

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-08-31 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007, Jeff Garzik wrote: > Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > i'm sure i'm going to get shouted down here, but i really disagree > > with "BROKEN" being considered a "maturity level". IMHO, things > > like EXPERIMENTAL, DEPRECATED and OBSOLETE represent maturity > > levels, for what i th

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-08-31 Thread Randy Dunlap
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 14:06:33 -0400 Jeff Garzik wrote: > Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > On Fri, 31 Aug 2007, Randy Dunlap wrote: > > > >> On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 23:05:57 +0100 Simon Arlott wrote: > >> > >>> On 19/07/07 17:19, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > On Thu, 19 Jul 2007, Randy Dunlap wrote: >

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-08-31 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Aug 31 2007 14:06, Jeff Garzik wrote: >> something like BROKEN, though, has *nothing* to do with maturity. a >> feature can be any of those maturity levels, and simultaneously be >> BROKEN. i consider BROKEN to be what i call a "status", and different >> status levels might be the default of

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-08-31 Thread Jeff Garzik
Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Fri, 31 Aug 2007, Randy Dunlap wrote: On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 23:05:57 +0100 Simon Arlott wrote: On 19/07/07 17:19, Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Thu, 19 Jul 2007, Randy Dunlap wrote: I think that Stefan means a patch to the kconfig source code, not the the Kconfig files

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-08-31 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007, Randy Dunlap wrote: > On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 23:05:57 +0100 Simon Arlott wrote: > > > On 19/07/07 17:19, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > > On Thu, 19 Jul 2007, Randy Dunlap wrote: > > >> I think that Stefan means a patch to the kconfig source code, > > >> not the the Kconfig files.

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-08-31 Thread Randy Dunlap
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 23:05:57 +0100 Simon Arlott wrote: > On 19/07/07 17:19, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > On Thu, 19 Jul 2007, Randy Dunlap wrote: > >> I think that Stefan means a patch to the kconfig source code, > >> not the the Kconfig files. Good luck. I'd still like to see it. > > > > yes, i

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-07-19 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007, Simon Arlott wrote: > On 19/07/07 17:19, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > On Thu, 19 Jul 2007, Randy Dunlap wrote: > >> I think that Stefan means a patch to the kconfig source code, > >> not the the Kconfig files. Good luck. I'd still like to see it. > > > > yes, i understand wha

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-07-19 Thread Simon Arlott
On 19/07/07 17:19, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > On Thu, 19 Jul 2007, Randy Dunlap wrote: >> I think that Stefan means a patch to the kconfig source code, >> not the the Kconfig files. Good luck. I'd still like to see it. > > yes, i understand what he wanted now. as a first step (that > theoretical

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-07-19 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007, Randy Dunlap wrote: > On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 05:25:30 -0400 (EDT) Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > > On Thu, 19 Jul 2007, Stefan Richter wrote: > > > > > Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > > > On Thu, 19 Jul 2007, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > > > > > > > ... > > > >> I would consider it more ugly

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-07-19 Thread Randy Dunlap
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 05:25:30 -0400 (EDT) Robert P. J. Day wrote: > On Thu, 19 Jul 2007, Stefan Richter wrote: > > > Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > > On Thu, 19 Jul 2007, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > > > > > ... > > >> I would consider it more ugly to special case this and that in the > > >> kconfig code w

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-07-19 Thread Stefan Richter
Robert P. J. Day wrote: > i *did* submit a preliminary patch once upon a time, and it > (predictably) went nowhere. A patch which pulls the word "experimental" into prompts or adds a dedicated directive for tagging of options? Can't find it in archives. -- Stefan Richter -=-=-=== -=== =--==

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-07-19 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007, Stefan Richter wrote: > Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > On Thu, 19 Jul 2007, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > > > ... > >> I would consider it more ugly to special case this and that in the > >> kconfig code when plain dependencies already offer exactly the same > >> functionality... > > >

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-07-19 Thread Stefan Richter
Robert P. J. Day wrote: > On Thu, 19 Jul 2007, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > ... >> I would consider it more ugly to special case this and that in the >> kconfig code when plain dependencies already offer exactly the same >> functionality... > > well, this is the *third* time i've proposed adding this k

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-07-19 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007, Adrian Bunk wrote: ... > I would consider it more ugly to special case this and that in the > kconfig code when plain dependencies already offer exactly the same > functionality... well, this is the *third* time i've proposed adding this kind of feature so, at this point, i'v

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-07-18 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Wed, Jul 18, 2007 at 05:18:20PM -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 18, 2007 at 04:51:33PM -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > > On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, Jeff Garzik wrote: > > > > > > > Randy Dunlap wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 16:23:09

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-07-18 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, Adrian Bunk wrote: > If you are not doing it, noone might do it. And discusing > improvements noone will implement is somehow pointless... sure, i'm willing to help, but i don't think doing *nothing* about it is an option. you may not like gabriel's proposed patch, but you h

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-07-18 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Wed, Jul 18, 2007 at 04:51:33PM -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, Jeff Garzik wrote: > > > > > Randy Dunlap wrote: > > > > On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 16:23:09 -0400 (EDT) Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > > > > there's no point adding all that

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-07-18 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Wed, Jul 18, 2007 at 04:51:33PM -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, Jeff Garzik wrote: > > > Randy Dunlap wrote: > > > On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 16:23:09 -0400 (EDT) Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > > > there's no point adding all that redundant content when it can all be > > > > done au

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-07-18 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, Jeff Garzik wrote: > Randy Dunlap wrote: > > On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 16:23:09 -0400 (EDT) Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > > there's no point adding all that redundant content when it can all be > > > done automatically. > > > > I like it. Are there any kconfig patches to support this

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-07-18 Thread Randy Dunlap
Jeff Garzik wrote: Randy Dunlap wrote: On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 16:23:09 -0400 (EDT) Robert P. J. Day wrote: there's no point adding all that redundant content when it can all be done automatically. I like it. Are there any kconfig patches to support this plan? Speaking specifically to adding

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-07-18 Thread Gabriel C
Robert P. J. Day wrote: > On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, Gabriel C wrote: > >> Everything 'depends on' EXPERIMENTAL should be marked as such, >> visible in the menus. > > rather than add all that extraneous dreck to the Kconfig files, i > *really* wish folks would give serious thought to my earlier > sugge

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-07-18 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, Randy Dunlap wrote: > On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 16:23:09 -0400 (EDT) Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > > On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, Gabriel C wrote: > > > > > Everything 'depends on' EXPERIMENTAL should be marked as such, > > > visible in the menus. > > > > rather than add all that extraneous d

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-07-18 Thread Jeff Garzik
Randy Dunlap wrote: On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 16:23:09 -0400 (EDT) Robert P. J. Day wrote: there's no point adding all that redundant content when it can all be done automatically. I like it. Are there any kconfig patches to support this plan? Speaking specifically to adding 'EXPERIMENTAL', I di

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-07-18 Thread Randy Dunlap
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 16:23:09 -0400 (EDT) Robert P. J. Day wrote: > On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, Gabriel C wrote: > > > Everything 'depends on' EXPERIMENTAL should be marked as such, > > visible in the menus. > > rather than add all that extraneous dreck to the Kconfig files, i > *really* wish folks woul

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-07-18 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, Gabriel C wrote: > Everything 'depends on' EXPERIMENTAL should be marked as such, > visible in the menus. rather than add all that extraneous dreck to the Kconfig files, i *really* wish folks would give serious thought to my earlier suggestion about a "maturity level" attribu

[PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-07-18 Thread Gabriel C
Everything 'depends on' EXPERIMENTAL should be marked as such, visible in the menus. Signed-off-by: Gabriel Craciunescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- drivers/net/irda/Kconfig | 14 +++--- drivers/net/usb/Kconfig |4 ++-- drivers/net/wireless/Kconfig