Re: [PATCH] Console keyboard events and accessibility

2007-09-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
Pavel Machek, le Sat 01 Sep 2007 18:18:45 +, a écrit : > > > > Very early is not so early, and loading initrd itself may actually fail. > > > > The kernel may indeed hang, but there are more chances to get some > > > > messages before the hang. Don't _you_ have a VGA screen for getting > > > >

Re: [PATCH] Console keyboard events and accessibility

2007-09-01 Thread Pavel Machek
Hi! > > > Very early is not so early, and loading initrd itself may actually fail. > > > The kernel may indeed hang, but there are more chances to get some > > > messages before the hang. Don't _you_ have a VGA screen for getting > > > earliest failure messages from the kernel? > > > > No. I'm u

Re: [PATCH] Console keyboard events and accessibility

2007-09-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hi, Pavel Machek, le Sat 01 Sep 2007 17:23:02 +, a écrit : > Hi! > > > > > Because userland only begins quite late in the boot process, and > > > > userland may hang. > > > > > > Initrd means userland is started very early on most machines these > > > days, and kernel may hang, too. > > > >

Re: [PATCH] Console keyboard events and accessibility

2007-09-01 Thread Pavel Machek
Hi! > > > Because userland only begins quite late in the boot process, and > > > userland may hang. > > > > Initrd means userland is started very early on most machines these > > days, and kernel may hang, too. > > Very early is not so early, and loading initrd itself may actually fail. > The ke

Re: [PATCH] Console keyboard events and accessibility

2007-09-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hi, Pavel Machek, le Sat 01 Sep 2007 12:32:58 +, a écrit : > > > > > They can use the raw xlation for that. > > > > > > > > For userland, yes. This is for kernel modules. > > > > > > And should speakup be a kernel module? Why? > > > > Because userland only begins quite late in the boot pro

Re: [PATCH] Console keyboard events and accessibility

2007-09-01 Thread Pavel Machek
> > > > They can use the raw xlation for that. > > > > > > For userland, yes. This is for kernel modules. > > > > And should speakup be a kernel module? Why? > > Because userland only begins quite late in the boot process, and > userland may hang. Initrd means userland is started very early o

Re: [PATCH] Console keyboard events and accessibility

2007-09-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
Pavel Machek, le Thu 12 Jul 2007 19:19:32 +, a écrit : > On Tue 2007-08-21 22:49:51, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Jan Engelhardt, le Tue 21 Aug 2007 22:42:24 +0200, a écrit : > > > >- keycodes: even before translation into keysym. > > > > > > They can use the raw xlation for that. >

Re: [PATCH] Console keyboard events and accessibility

2007-09-01 Thread Pavel Machek
On Tue 2007-08-21 22:49:51, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Hi, > > Jan Engelhardt, le Tue 21 Aug 2007 22:42:24 +0200, a écrit : > > >- keycodes: even before translation into keysym. > > > > They can use the raw xlation for that. > > For userland, yes. This is for kernel modules. And should speakup b

Re: [PATCH] Console keyboard events and accessibility

2007-08-27 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hi, Adrian Bunk, le Sat 25 Aug 2007 03:07:04 +0200, a écrit : > > If they > > remain in -mm for some time and people don't complain, well that's good > > too: at least we know how speakup may hook into the kernel when it gets > > merged. > >... > > Without any users it's dead code noone uses, No

Re: [PATCH] Console keyboard events and accessibility

2007-08-24 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 10:22:51PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Hi, > > Andrew Morton, le Tue 21 Aug 2007 13:02:33 -0700, a écrit : > > On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 02:57:18 +0200 > > Samuel Thibault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Some external modules like Speakup need to use the PC keyboard to

Re: [PATCH] Console keyboard events and accessibility

2007-08-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hi, Jan Engelhardt, le Tue 21 Aug 2007 22:42:24 +0200, a écrit : > >- keycodes: even before translation into keysym. > > They can use the raw xlation for that. For userland, yes. This is for kernel modules. Samuel - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the

Re: [PATCH] Console keyboard events and accessibility

2007-08-21 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Aug 21 2007 02:57, Samuel Thibault wrote: > >Some external modules like Speakup need to use the PC keyboard to control >them and also need to get keyboard feedback (caps lock status, etc.) > >This adds a keyboard notifier that such modules can use to get the keyboard >events and possibly eat th

Re: [PATCH] Console keyboard events and accessibility

2007-08-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hi, Andrew Morton, le Tue 21 Aug 2007 13:02:33 -0700, a écrit : > On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 02:57:18 +0200 > Samuel Thibault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Some external modules like Speakup need to use the PC keyboard to control > > them and also need to get keyboard feedback (caps lock status, etc.

Re: [PATCH] Console keyboard events and accessibility

2007-08-21 Thread Andrew Morton
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 02:57:18 +0200 Samuel Thibault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Some external modules like Speakup need to use the PC keyboard to control > them and also need to get keyboard feedback (caps lock status, etc.) > > This adds a keyboard notifier that such modules can use to get the k

[PATCH] Console keyboard events and accessibility

2007-08-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Some external modules like Speakup need to use the PC keyboard to control them and also need to get keyboard feedback (caps lock status, etc.) This adds a keyboard notifier that such modules can use to get the keyboard events and possibly eat them, at several stages: - keycodes: even before trans