Re: [NFS] What's slated for inclusion in 2.6.24-rc1 from the NFS client git tree...

2007-10-08 Thread Greg Banks
On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 02:00:37PM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote: > On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 13:30:10 -0400 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > How does Joe Sysadmin tell if he has an affected legacy app or not? > > > > (The obvious "try it and see what breaks" is a non-starter for many places, > > because y

Re: [NFS] What's slated for inclusion in 2.6.24-rc1 from the NFS client git tree...

2007-10-07 Thread David Chinner
On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 02:12:22PM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote: > On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 13:30:10 -0400 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 10:00:50 EDT, Trond Myklebust said: > > > > > How about a boot/module parameter to turn it on or off? > > > > > > I don't see any point in having

Re: [NFS] What's slated for inclusion in 2.6.24-rc1 from the NFS client git tree...

2007-10-05 Thread Jeff Layton
On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 13:30:10 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 10:00:50 EDT, Trond Myklebust said: > > > How about a boot/module parameter to turn it on or off? > > > > I don't see any point in having a sysctl for something like this: either > > you have legacy applications or

Re: [NFS] What's slated for inclusion in 2.6.24-rc1 from the NFS client git tree...

2007-10-05 Thread Jeff Layton
On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 13:30:10 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > How does Joe Sysadmin tell if he has an affected legacy app or not? > > (The obvious "try it and see what breaks" is a non-starter for many places, > because you too easily end up in a loop of "enable it, find 4-5 show stoppers, > tur

Re: [NFS] What's slated for inclusion in 2.6.24-rc1 from the NFS client git tree...

2007-10-05 Thread Pierre Ossman
On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 13:36:19 -0400 Trond Myklebust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2007-10-05 at 08:25 +0200, Pierre Ossman wrote: > > > Print a warning or something so that they can be found. Don't go > > breaking systems left and right. People have better things to do > > than to fix the b

Re: [NFS] What's slated for inclusion in 2.6.24-rc1 from the NFS client git tree...

2007-10-05 Thread Trond Myklebust
On Fri, 2007-10-05 at 13:30 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 10:00:50 EDT, Trond Myklebust said: > > > How about a boot/module parameter to turn it on or off? > > > > I don't see any point in having a sysctl for something like this: either > > you have legacy applications or

Re: [NFS] What's slated for inclusion in 2.6.24-rc1 from the NFS client git tree...

2007-10-05 Thread Trond Myklebust
On Fri, 2007-10-05 at 08:25 +0200, Pierre Ossman wrote: > Print a warning or something so that they can be found. Don't go > breaking systems left and right. People have better things to do than > to fix the build systems for ever program they use. The kernel knows bugger all about what glibc fun

Re: [NFS] What's slated for inclusion in 2.6.24-rc1 from the NFS client git tree...

2007-10-05 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 10:00:50 EDT, Trond Myklebust said: > How about a boot/module parameter to turn it on or off? > > I don't see any point in having a sysctl for something like this: either > you have legacy applications or you don't. It is not something that you > switch off as you go off to lu

Re: [NFS] What's slated for inclusion in 2.6.24-rc1 from the NFS client git tree...

2007-10-04 Thread Pierre Ossman
On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 15:41:57 -0400 Peter Staubach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I would agree. The 64 bit fileids will only become visible when > the server is exporting file systems which contain fileids which > are bigger than 32 bits and then only when the application > encounters these file

Re: [NFS] What's slated for inclusion in 2.6.24-rc1 from the NFS client git tree...

2007-10-04 Thread Trond Myklebust
On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 12:59 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote: > On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 15:16:03 -0400 > Trond Myklebust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > That would be perfect. It can even be in non-legacy mode by default, > > > > just as long as you can go back to the old behaviour when/if you

Re: [NFS] What's slated for inclusion in 2.6.24-rc1 from the NFS client git tree...

2007-10-04 Thread Andrew Morton
On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 15:16:03 -0400 Trond Myklebust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > That would be perfect. It can even be in non-legacy mode by default, > > > just as long as you can go back to the old behaviour when/if you run > > > into a non-LFS application. > > > > > > > Wouldn't a mo

Re: [NFS] What's slated for inclusion in 2.6.24-rc1 from the NFS client git tree...

2007-10-04 Thread Peter Staubach
Trond Myklebust wrote: On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 11:42 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote: On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 18:43:04 +0200 Pierre Ossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 10:00:50 -0400 Trond Myklebust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 08:52 +0200, Pierre Oss

Re: [NFS] What's slated for inclusion in 2.6.24-rc1 from the NFS client git tree...

2007-10-04 Thread Trond Myklebust
On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 11:42 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote: > On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 18:43:04 +0200 > Pierre Ossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 10:00:50 -0400 > > Trond Myklebust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 08:52 +0200, Pierre Ossman wrote: > > > >

Re: [NFS] What's slated for inclusion in 2.6.24-rc1 from the NFS client git tree...

2007-10-04 Thread Andrew Morton
On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 18:43:04 +0200 Pierre Ossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 10:00:50 -0400 > Trond Myklebust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 08:52 +0200, Pierre Ossman wrote: > > > On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 19:41:16 -0400 > > > Trond Myklebust <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [NFS] What's slated for inclusion in 2.6.24-rc1 from the NFS client git tree...

2007-10-04 Thread Pierre Ossman
On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 10:00:50 -0400 Trond Myklebust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 08:52 +0200, Pierre Ossman wrote: > > On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 19:41:16 -0400 > > Trond Myklebust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > We also have the 64-bit inode support from RedHat/Peter St

Re: [NFS] What's slated for inclusion in 2.6.24-rc1 from the NFS client git tree...

2007-10-04 Thread Trond Myklebust
On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 08:52 +0200, Pierre Ossman wrote: > On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 19:41:16 -0400 > Trond Myklebust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > We also have the 64-bit inode support from RedHat/Peter Staubach. > > > > As has been pointed[1] out[2], this will cause regressions for non-LFS >