Re: [2.6 patch] remove smbfs

2008-02-05 Thread Andrew Morton
On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 06:31:14 -0500 Jeff Layton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It looks like it's time? If so, what should I set the date to? > > Looks good to me. I'd suggest that we change the printk's to refer to a > release version and state that it will be removed in for 2.6.26 (or > 2.6.27 i

Re: [2.6 patch] remove smbfs

2008-02-05 Thread Steve French
On Feb 5, 2008 2:18 AM, Andrew Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:41:03 -0500 Jeff Layton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I have no problem with targeting smbfs for removal, but I thought > > Andrew had an unofficial policy that we should first mark things to be > > depreca

Re: [2.6 patch] remove smbfs

2008-02-05 Thread Alejandro Riveira Fernández
El Tue, 5 Feb 2008 00:18:05 -0800 Andrew Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > struct smb_fattr root; > int ver; > void *mem; > + static int warn_count; > + > + if (warn_count < 5) { > + warn_count++; > + printk(KERN_EMERG "smbfs is deprecated an

Re: [2.6 patch] remove smbfs

2008-02-05 Thread Jeff Layton
On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 00:18:05 -0800 Andrew Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:41:03 -0500 Jeff Layton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I have no problem with targeting smbfs for removal, but I thought > > Andrew had an unofficial policy that we should first mark things to be

Re: [2.6 patch] remove smbfs

2008-02-05 Thread Andrew Morton
On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:41:03 -0500 Jeff Layton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have no problem with targeting smbfs for removal, but I thought > Andrew had an unofficial policy that we should first mark things to be > deprecated, and then remove them 2 releases later. That seems like a > sensible p

Re: [2.6 patch] remove smbfs

2008-01-31 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Jan 30 2008 19:23, Steve French wrote: >> On Jan 30 2008 12:53, Steve French wrote: >> >I have mounted to Windows98 a few months ago with no problems (other >> >than a few restrictions like you can't set the file times via utimes). >> > For mounts to Windows98 note that you have to specify the

Re: [2.6 patch] remove smbfs

2008-01-31 Thread Andi Kleen
"Steve French" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > There are four common issues with mounting to these very old servers: > 1) remembering to mount specifying lanman security (sec=lanman) > 2) remembering to specify the netbios name of the server on mount > (which is often not be the same as its tcp nam

Re: [2.6 patch] remove smbfs

2008-01-31 Thread AstralStorm
On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 19:30:55 -0600 "Steve French" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 30, 2008 7:13 PM, Jeff Layton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 02:47:17 +0200 > > > > > > > In addition, cifs cannot completely replace smbfs atm. > > > > > > > Even todays sold NAS-boxes (often

Re: [2.6 patch] remove smbfs

2008-01-30 Thread Steve French
On Jan 30, 2008 7:34 PM, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 02:47:17AM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > > smbfs has the unfortunate quality of momentum. A lot of users aren't > > > aware of CIFS at all since smbfs basically does what they need it to > > > do. Some extr

Re: [2.6 patch] remove smbfs

2008-01-30 Thread Steve French
On Jan 30, 2008 8:23 PM, Jan Engelhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jan 31 2008 12:33, David Newall wrote: > >Jan Engelhardt wrote: > >> On Jan 30 2008 12:53, Steve French wrote: > >> > >>> I have mounted to Windows98 a few months ago with no problems (other > >>> than a few restrictions li

Re: [2.6 patch] remove smbfs

2008-01-30 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Jan 31 2008 12:33, David Newall wrote: >Jan Engelhardt wrote: >> On Jan 30 2008 12:53, Steve French wrote: >> >>> I have mounted to Windows98 a few months ago with no problems (other >>> than a few restrictions like you can't set the file times via utimes). >>> For mounts to Windows98 note t

Re: [2.6 patch] remove smbfs

2008-01-30 Thread David Newall
Jan Engelhardt wrote: > On Jan 30 2008 12:53, Steve French wrote: > >> I have mounted to Windows98 a few months ago with no problems (other >> than a few restrictions like you can't set the file times via utimes). >> For mounts to Windows98 note that you have to specify the server >> netbios nam

Re: [2.6 patch] remove smbfs

2008-01-30 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 02:47:17AM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > smbfs has the unfortunate quality of momentum. A lot of users aren't > > aware of CIFS at all since smbfs basically does what they need it to > > do. Some extra warning for those users would be nice. > And many users will start whini

Re: [2.6 patch] remove smbfs

2008-01-30 Thread Steve French
On Jan 30, 2008 7:13 PM, Jeff Layton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 02:47:17 +0200 > > > > > > In addition, cifs cannot completely replace smbfs atm. > > > > > > Even todays sold NAS-boxes (often running anchient > > > > > > samba-2.x.x) work only with smbfs on the client side. I

Re: [2.6 patch] remove smbfs

2008-01-30 Thread Steve French
On Jan 30, 2008 1:05 PM, Jan Engelhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jan 30 2008 12:53, Steve French wrote: > >I have mounted to Windows98 a few months ago with no problems (other > >than a few restrictions like you can't set the file times via utimes). > > For mounts to Windows98 note that yo

Re: [2.6 patch] remove smbfs

2008-01-30 Thread Jeff Layton
On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 02:47:17 +0200 Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 07:34:12PM -0500, Jeff Layton wrote: > > On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 00:58:10 +0200 > > Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 05:41:03PM -0500, Jeff Layton wrote: > > > >

Re: [2.6 patch] remove smbfs

2008-01-30 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 05:41:03PM -0500, Jeff Layton wrote: > Some of our older products use smbfs, but our newer stuff (RHEL5 and > up) have smbfs disabled. Fedora has had smbfs disabled for quite some > time as well. I've heard very few complaints (though maybe they're just > not getting to me).

Re: [2.6 patch] remove smbfs

2008-01-30 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 07:34:12PM -0500, Jeff Layton wrote: > On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 00:58:10 +0200 > Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 05:41:03PM -0500, Jeff Layton wrote: > > > On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:16:13 +0100 > > > Guenter Kukkukk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

Re: [2.6 patch] remove smbfs

2008-01-30 Thread Jeff Layton
On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 00:58:10 +0200 Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 05:41:03PM -0500, Jeff Layton wrote: > > On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:16:13 +0100 > > Guenter Kukkukk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Am Montag, 28. Januar 2008 schrieb Adrian Bunk: > > > > I rememb

Re: [2.6 patch] remove smbfs

2008-01-30 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 05:41:03PM -0500, Jeff Layton wrote: > On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:16:13 +0100 > Guenter Kukkukk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Am Montag, 28. Januar 2008 schrieb Adrian Bunk: > > > I remember that there were some small things missing in CIFS for > > > completely replacing th

Re: [2.6 patch] remove smbfs

2008-01-30 Thread Jeff Layton
On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:16:13 +0100 Guenter Kukkukk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am Montag, 28. Januar 2008 schrieb Adrian Bunk: > > I remember that there were some small things missing in CIFS for > > completely replacing the unmaintained smbfs when we discussed > > removing smbfs back in 2005 du

Re: [2.6 patch] remove smbfs

2008-01-30 Thread Guenter Kukkukk
Am Montag, 28. Januar 2008 schrieb Adrian Bunk: > I remember that there were some small things missing in CIFS for > completely replacing the unmaintained smbfs when we discussed removing > smbfs back in 2005 due to smbfs being unmaintained. > > CIFS has improved since, smbfs is still unmaintain

Re: [2.6 patch] remove smbfs

2008-01-30 Thread Guenter Kukkukk
Am Mittwoch, 30. Januar 2008 schrieb Steve French: > I have mounted to Windows98 a few months ago with no problems (other > than a few restrictions like you can't set the file times via utimes). > For mounts to Windows98 note that you have to specify the server > netbios name on the mount (since i

Re: [2.6 patch] remove smbfs

2008-01-30 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Jan 30 2008 12:53, Steve French wrote: >I have mounted to Windows98 a few months ago with no problems (other >than a few restrictions like you can't set the file times via utimes). > For mounts to Windows98 note that you have to specify the server >netbios name on the mount (since it is not the

Re: [2.6 patch] remove smbfs

2008-01-30 Thread Steve French
I have mounted to Windows98 a few months ago with no problems (other than a few restrictions like you can't set the file times via utimes). For mounts to Windows98 note that you have to specify the server netbios name on the mount (since it is not the same as the DNS name). In your example your wo

Re: [2.6 patch] remove smbfs

2008-01-30 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Jan 29 2008 00:08, Adrian Bunk wrote: > >I remember that there were some small things missing in CIFS for >completely replacing the unmaintained smbfs when we discussed removing >smbfs back in 2005 due to smbfs being unmaintained. > >CIFS has improved since, smbfs is still unmaintained, and i