Yes: The linux devs can rescind their license grant.

2018-12-23 Thread visionsofalice
On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 07:56:26AM +, visionsofal...@redchan.it wrote: The linux devs can rescind their license grant. Greg KH responded on Thu, 25 Oct 2018 09:19:11 +0100: No they can not, please do not keep spreading false information. I was explicitly cc'ed on this thread by visio

The CoC regime is a License violation - Additional restrictive terms

2018-12-23 Thread visionsofalice
Version 2 of the GPL forbids the incorporation of additional restrictive terms, relating to the distribution, modification, etc of the article licensed under the terms. Those that violate this section are declared, by operation of the terms, to have their grant automatically revoked. An addition

2 months and no response from Eben Moglen - Yes you can rescind your grant.

2018-12-23 Thread visionsofalice
It has been 2 months. Eben Moglen has published no research. Because there is nothing more to say: The GPLv2, as used by linux, is a bare license. It can be rescinded at the will of the grantor. The regime that the FSF used, vis-a-vis the GPLv2, is essential: copyright transfers to a central

Reason for RedHat purchase 30 pct over market cap (and some thoughts on Bradly Kuhn's recent public denouncement of RMS)

2018-12-23 Thread visionsofalice
Redhat has achieved "governance" over the Linux(TM), via systemd and the Code of Conduct. You, contributors, are now treated as employees. They are confident that you will not assert your property rights, since you attack those who do (See: Netfiter saga), and take it as an honour to sign doc

2 months and no response from Eben Moglen - Yes you can rescind your grant.

2018-12-22 Thread visionsofalice
It has been 2 months. Eben Moglen has published no research. Because there is nothing more to say: The GPLv2, as used by linux, is a bare license. It can be rescinded at the will of the grantor. The regime that the FSF used, vis-a-vis the GPLv2, is essential: copyright transfers to a central

Yes: The linux devs can rescind their license grant.

2018-12-22 Thread visionsofalice
On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 07:56:26AM +, visionsofal...@redchan.it wrote: The linux devs can rescind their license grant. Greg KH responded on Thu, 25 Oct 2018 09:19:11 +0100: No they can not, please do not keep spreading false information. I was explicitly cc'ed on this thread by visio

Reason for RedHat purchase 30 pct over market cap

2018-12-22 Thread visionsofalice
Redhat has achieved "governance" over the Linux(TM), via systemd and the Code of Conduct. You, contributors, are now treated as employees. They are confident that you will not assert your property rights, since you attack those who do (See: Netfiter saga), and take it as an honour to sign doc

The CoC regime is a License violation - Additional restrictive terms

2018-12-18 Thread visionsofalice
Version 2 of the GPL forbids the incorporation of additional restrictive terms, relating to the distribution, modification, etc of the article licensed under the terms. Those that violate this section are declared, by operation of the terms, to have their grant automatically revoked. An addition

Bruce Perens, inconsistent statements regarding Copyright, GPL, Open Source Security.

2018-12-18 Thread visionsofalice
In a prior public statement, Bruce Perens put forth a legal theory where users of a certain piece of Software would be liable for contributory copyright infringement*[1]. This statement, specifically the pronouncement of such damages reachable, is predicated on a pure copyright License theory r

Bruce Perens, inconsistent statements regarding Copyright, GPL, Open Source Security. (Edit: PDF attached)

2018-12-18 Thread visionsofalice
In a prior public statement, Bruce Perens put forth a legal theory where users of a certain piece of Software would be liable for contributory copyright infringement*[1]. This statement, specifically the pronouncement of such damages reachable, is predicated on a pure copyright License theory r

Additional restrictive terms - The CoC regime is a License violation

2018-12-18 Thread visionsofalice
Version 2 of the GPL forbids the incorporation of additional restrictive terms, relating to the distribution, modification, etc of the article licensed under the terms. Those that violate this section are declared, by operation of the terms, to have their grant automatically revoked. An addition

The CoC regime is a License violation - Additional restrictive terms

2018-12-18 Thread visionsofalice
Version 2 of the GPL forbids the incorporation of additional restrictive terms, relating to the distribution, modification, etc of the article licensed under the terms. Those that violate this section are declared, by operation of the terms, to have their grant automatically revoked. An addition

Re: The linux devs can rescind their license grant.

2018-12-18 Thread visionsofalice
On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 07:56:26AM +, visionsofal...@redchan.it wrote: The linux devs can rescind their license grant. Greg KH responded on Thu, 25 Oct 2018 09:19:11 +0100: No they can not, please do not keep spreading false information. I was explicitly cc'ed on this thread by visio

Re: The linux devs can rescind their license grant. - Analysis published?

2018-12-18 Thread visionsofalice
Has the analysis been published yet? I have been away on an artistic sabbatical, but I don't see it in the inbox using searches, this was the last mail I received on the subject. On 2018-10-26 18:31, Eben Moglen wrote: On Friday, 26 October 2018, visionsofal...@redchan.it wrote: You are co

Re: The linux devs can rescind their license grant.

2018-10-27 Thread visionsofalice
Lawrence Rosen is also in agreement on this point (regarding the GPL v2 specifically). It is revocable at the will of the grantor, at any time. (He writes that if a licensee-contributor was to sue a grantor, then would be a good time to unilaterally rescind: disposing of the matter entirely)

Re: The linux devs can rescind their license grant.

2018-10-26 Thread visionsofalice
Al: the FSF was so insistent on the adoption of the GPL version 3 because the GPL version 2 is not operative against the grantor. This deficiency was, in their eyes, so fatal to the purposes that they envisioned that they, as you have pointed out, elected to employ enhanced means of converting pr

Re: The linux devs can rescind their license grant. - Additional restrictive terms

2018-10-26 Thread visionsofalice
Version 2 of the GPL forbids the incorporation of additional restrictive terms, relating to the distribution, modification, etc of the article licensed under the terms. Those that violate this section are declared, by operation of the terms, to have their grant automatically revoked. An addition

Re: The linux devs can rescind their license grant.

2018-10-26 Thread visionsofalice
On 2018-10-26 13:15, Eben Moglen wrote: They can do neither. There is no "doctrine established in Jacobsen." The license terms of the GPLv2, GPLv3, and all related licenses provide a mode of termination---for imposition of additional restrictions or violation of other terms. This termination pr

Re: The linux devs can rescind their license grant.

2018-10-26 Thread visionsofalice
Yes they can, greg. The GPL v2, is a bare license. It is not a contract. It lacks consideration between the licensee and the grantor. (IE: They didn't pay you, Greg, a thing. YOU, Greg, simply have chosen to bestow a benefit upon them where they suffer no detriment and you, in fact, gain no

The linux devs can rescind their license grant.

2018-10-25 Thread visionsofalice
The linux devs can rescind their license grant. Why don't they if they don't like the CoC. They did NOT give their code away. They merely licensed it to people for nothing. Licenses can be rescinded. The License text itself doesn't even disclaim the possibility of rescission. All it says is tha