Re: [ck] Re: Scheduler benchmarks - a follow-up

2007-09-17 Thread Jos Poortvliet
On 9/17/07, Ingo Molnar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > * Rob Hussey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > http://www.healthcarelinen.com/misc/benchmarks/BOUND_hackbench_benchmark2.png > > heh - am i the only one impressed by the consistency of the blue line in > this graph? :-) [ and the green line look

Re: [ck] Re: Linus 2.6.23-rc1

2007-07-28 Thread jos poortvliet
Op Saturday 28 July 2007, schreef Linus Torvalds: > > Compare this to SD for a while. Ponder. > > Linus Your point here seems to be: this is how it went, and it was right. Ok, got that. Yet, Con walked away (and not just over SD). Seeing Con go, I wonder how many did leave

Re: [ck] Re: Linus 2.6.23-rc1

2007-07-28 Thread jos poortvliet
Op Saturday 28 July 2007, schreef Linus Torvalds: > On Sat, 28 Jul 2007, Michael Chang wrote: > > I do recall there is one issue on which Con wouldn't budge -- anything > > that involved boosting certain kinds of processes in the kernel. > > I did that myself, so that's a non-issue. > > No. The com

Re: [ck] Re: RSDL v0.31

2007-03-20 Thread jos poortvliet
Op Tuesday 20 March 2007, schreef Linus Torvalds: > On Mon, 19 Mar 2007, Xavier Bestel wrote: > > > >> Stock scheduler wins easily, no contest. > > > > > > > > What happens when you renice X ? > > > > > > Dunno -- not necessary with the stock scheduler. > > > > Could you try something like renice -

Re: [ck] Re: RSDL v0.31

2007-03-20 Thread jos poortvliet
Op Tuesday 20 March 2007, schreef Bill Davidsen: > Kasper Sandberg wrote: > > On Sun, 2007-03-18 at 08:38 +0100, Mike Galbraith wrote: > >> On Sun, 2007-03-18 at 08:22 +0100, Radoslaw Szkodzinski wrote: > >>> I'd recon KDE regresses because of kioslaves waiting on a pipe > >>> (communication with t

Re: [ck] Re: RSDL v0.31

2007-03-18 Thread jos poortvliet
Op Sunday 18 March 2007, schreef Radoslaw Szkodzinski: > On 3/18/07, Mike Galbraith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hm. Sounds rather a lot like the... > > X sucks, fix X and RSDL will rock your world. RSDL is perfect. > > ...that I've been getting. > > Blah. Nothing's perfect. Especially not comp

Re: [ck] Re: is RSDL an "unfair" scheduler too?

2007-03-18 Thread jos poortvliet
Op Sunday 18 March 2007, schreef Mike Galbraith: > On Sat, 2007-03-17 at 21:13 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: > > Now for something constructive... by any chance is Mike running KDE > > instead of GNOME? > > Yes. > > -Mike Well, then, it might indeed be the KIOslave/pipe stuff. I experience som

Re: [ck] Re: [ANNOUNCE] RSDL completely fair starvation free interactive cpu scheduler

2007-03-18 Thread jos poortvliet
Op Sunday 18 March 2007, schreef Con Kolivas: > On Monday 12 March 2007 22:26, Al Boldi wrote: > > Con Kolivas wrote: > > > On Monday 12 March 2007 15:42, Al Boldi wrote: > > > > Con Kolivas wrote: > > > > > On Monday 12 March 2007 08:52, Con Kolivas wrote: > > > > > > And thank you! I think I know

Re: RSDL v0.31

2007-03-17 Thread jos poortvliet
Op Saturday 17 March 2007, schreef Ingo Molnar: > * jos poortvliet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Op Saturday 17 March 2007, schreef Ingo Molnar: > > > so it is not at all clear to me that RSDL is indeed an improvement, > > > if it does not have comparable auto-ni

Re: [ck] Re: is RSDL an "unfair" scheduler too?

2007-03-17 Thread jos poortvliet
Op Saturday 17 March 2007, schreef Con Kolivas: > On Saturday 17 March 2007 22:49, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > * Con Kolivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Despite the claims to the contrary, RSDL does not have _less_ > > > heuristics, it does not have _any_. It's purely entitlement based. > > > > RSD

Re: [ck] Re: is RSDL an "unfair" scheduler too?

2007-03-17 Thread jos poortvliet
Op Saturday 17 March 2007, schreef Ingo Molnar: > * Con Kolivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Despite the claims to the contrary, RSDL does not have _less_ > > heuristics, it does not have _any_. It's purely entitlement based. > > RSDL still has heuristics very much, but this time it's hardcoded i

Re: [ck] Re: RSDL v0.31

2007-03-17 Thread jos poortvliet
Op Saturday 17 March 2007, schreef Ingo Molnar: > so it is not at all clear to me that RSDL is indeed an improvement, if > it does not have comparable auto-nice properties. Wasn't the point of RSDL to get rid of the auto-nice, because it caused starvation, unpredictable behaviour and other proble

Re: [ck] Re: [PATCH][RSDL-mm 0/7] RSDL cpu scheduler for 2.6.21-rc3-mm2

2007-03-12 Thread jos poortvliet
Op Monday 12 March 2007, schreef Con Kolivas: > > > If we fix 95% of the desktop and worsen 5% is that bad given how much > > > else we've gained in the process? > > > > Killing the known corner case starvation scenarios is wonderful, but > > let's not just pretend that interactive tasks don't have

Re: [ck] Re: [ANNOUNCE] RSDL completely fair starvation free interactive cpu scheduler

2007-03-12 Thread jos poortvliet
Op Monday 12 March 2007, schreef Con Kolivas: > On Tuesday 13 March 2007 01:14, Al Boldi wrote: > > Con Kolivas wrote: > > > > > The higher priority one always get 6-7ms whereas the lower priority > > > > > one runs 6-7ms and then one larger perfectly bound expiration > > > > > amount. Basically ex

Re: [ck] Re: [ANNOUNCE] RSDL completely fair starvation free interactive cpu scheduler

2007-03-12 Thread jos poortvliet
Op Monday 12 March 2007, schreef Al Boldi: > Con Kolivas wrote: > > > > The higher priority one always get 6-7ms whereas the lower priority > > > > one runs 6-7ms and then one larger perfectly bound expiration amount. > > > > Basically exactly as I'd expect. The higher priority task gets > > > > pr

Re: [ANNOUNCE] RSDL completely fair starvation free interactive cpu scheduler

2007-03-06 Thread jos poortvliet
Op Tuesday 06 March 2007, schreef Willy Tarreau: > In a way, I think they are right. Let me explain. Pluggable schedulers are > useful when you want to switch away from the default one. This is very > useful during development of a new scheduler, as well as when you're not > satisfied with the defa

Re: [ck] Re: [ANNOUNCE] RSDL completely fair starvation free interactive cpu scheduler

2007-03-04 Thread jos poortvliet
Op Monday 05 March 2007, schreef Willy Tarreau: > On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 08:49:29AM +1100, Con Kolivas wrote: > (...) > > > > That's just what it did, but when you "nice make -j4", things (gears) > > > start to stutter. Is that due to the staircase? > > > > gears isn't an interactive task. Apart

Re: [ck] Re: [ANNOUNCE] RSDL completely fair starvation free interactive cpu scheduler

2007-03-04 Thread jos poortvliet
Op Sunday 04 March 2007, schreef Willy Tarreau: > Hi Con ! > > This was designed to be robust for any application since linux demands a > > general purpose scheduler design, while preserving interactivity, instead > > of optimising for one particular end use. > > Well, I haven't tested it yet, but

Re: [ck] Re: Swap prefetch merge plans

2007-02-10 Thread jos poortvliet
Op Saturday 10 February 2007, schreef Randy Dunlap: > On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 18:35:51 -0500 Chuck Ebbert wrote: > > Andrew Morton wrote: > > > I have an email sitting in my drafts folder stating that I'll no longer > > > accept any features unless they've been publically reviewed in detail > > > and r

Re: [ck] Re: Swap prefetch merge plans

2007-02-09 Thread jos poortvliet
Op Friday 09 February 2007, schreef Con Kolivas: > On Saturday 10 February 2007 00:13, jos poortvliet wrote: > > Nobody has said anything about costs, indeed. Now afaik, swap prefetch is > > designed to have no/as little as possible costs, so that makes sense. > > Does it h

Re: [ck] Re: Swap prefetch merge plans

2007-02-09 Thread jos poortvliet
> > > Hold. > > Why hold? > > > It's been shown this patchset really helps desktop users. > > Has it? I don't think I've ever observed any benefits from it and I don't > think anyone has ever got down and worked out what its drawbacks might be, > and seen if they can be demonstrated in practice.

Re: [ck] 2.6.19-ck2

2006-12-09 Thread jos poortvliet
Op Sat Dec 9 2006, schreef Con Kolivas: (cut) > Changes (first significant changes since : > Added: > +sched-fix_iso_starvation.patch > A bug first introduced into 2.6.18-ck1/cks1 meant that SCHED_ISO tasks were > not being throttled when above their cpu limit. This presents a security > risk to a