OT: Hybrid cars

2013-09-15 Thread Mord Behar
Hi I know that this is off-topic, but I really don't know who to ask. See, I need a large pool of Linux-like brains that live in Israel for this. I mean, people (like me) who track gas liters and kilometerage, wear and tear on the car, insurance and things like that. Does anybody have numbers and

Re: OT: Hybrid cars

2013-09-15 Thread Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda
Hi Mord, You are looking for something like this:community: http://www.kml.co.il/Models/%D7%98%D7%95%D7%99%D7%95%D7%98%D7%94_%D7%A4%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%95%D7%A1 But you are right that hybrid cars have a lot of user-visible algorithms in them, and I think this makes it interesting to reverse-engineer.

Re: OT: Hybrid cars

2013-09-15 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Mord Behar writes: > Hi > I know that this is off-topic, but I really don't know who to ask. > See, I need a large pool of Linux-like brains that live in Israel for > this. > I mean, people (like me) who track gas liters and kilometerage, wear > and tear on the car, insurance and things like that

Re: OT: Hybrid cars

2013-09-15 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Oleg Goldshmidt writes: > Even if your car is a plug-in there are things to consider. Take a new > Prius with an extended Li-ion battery with capacity of 4.4kWh. I pay > ILS0.54/kWh at home, so at 80% efficiency a full charge will set you > back about 3 shekels. At ILS8/l this is about 0.375l of

Re: OT: Hybrid cars

2013-09-15 Thread Mord Behar
On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 7:20 PM, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: > Oleg Goldshmidt writes: > > > Even if your car is a plug-in there are things to consider. Take a new > > Prius with an extended Li-ion battery with capacity of 4.4kWh. I pay > > ILS0.54/kWh at home, so at 80% efficiency a full charge will

Re: OT: Hybrid cars

2013-09-15 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Mord Behar writes: > Wow. Thank you for that, it was quite informative. > You mentioned that small petrol European cars have a 20 km/l range. I don't think I meant small. I rather meant what counts for mid-size or larger in Europe, and what Americans call "compact" - think of our family sedans o

Re: OT: Hybrid cars

2013-09-15 Thread guy keren
(if you top-post, so will I! ;) driving the "old prius" myself (it's actualy the 2nd or 3rd generation of prius - but who's counting? :) - a few observations: - the car has its algorithms - but you can "interfere". - when driving fully down-hill, the car usually turns the engine off, reg

Re: OT: Hybrid cars

2013-09-15 Thread guy keren
On 09/15/2013 11:50 PM, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: Mord Behar writes: Wow. Thank you for that, it was quite informative. You mentioned that small petrol European cars have a 20 km/l range. I don't think I meant small. I rather meant what counts for mid-size or larger in Europe, and what Americ

Re: OT: Hybrid cars

2013-09-15 Thread guy keren
a few observations: - forget about honda insight. it is not very fuel-efficient. - the Prius can give you about the same gasoline consumption as a small manual car (such as the alto, the i10, etc.). this is true both in-town and out-of-town. - one of the reasons that the Prius is much more

Re: OT: Hybrid cars

2013-09-15 Thread Micha Feigin
>> Right now I'm driving a Fiat Panda. It's small and it's efficient, >but >> it comes at a price. The engine is tiny, and so is the gas tank (but >> being a tiny car it's easy to park in the city). The book says that >it >> can get 20 km/l intercity, and 12 km/l in the city. From my >experience

Re: OT: Hybrid cars

2013-09-15 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 14:42:28 +0300 Mord Behar wrote: > Hi > I know that this is off-topic, but I really don't know who to ask. > See, I need a large pool of Linux-like brains that live in Israel for > this. I mean, people (like me) who track gas liters and kilometerage, > wear and tear on the car