Re: Preparing to convince to shift to non-propriety documents formats

2012-02-08 Thread Dotan Cohen
2012/2/5 Etzion Bar-Noy : > Because most households in israel do not buy their office... > > It would be stupid to assume they do. Moreover - the school headmaster does > not assume that either. He/she knows most people just "have" their office > installed, and they care nothing about it. > Then t

Re: Preparing to convince to shift to non-propriety documents formats

2012-02-08 Thread Dotan Cohen
2012/2/5 Boaz Rymland : > I bet it cannot read my teacher's  document!: a table full of oversized > text, but mostly - toner/ink eating, useless, stupid^H^H^H^H^H images that > never, and I mean never, really align in the needed cells but rather appear > somewhere else in the document. That's true

Re: Preparing to convince to shift to non-propriety documents formats

2012-02-08 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 11:23, geoffrey mendelson wrote: > It depends. I can't speak to it directly, my Hebrew level is such that a > crayon would be enough, but my son who is in high school was told by the > school to use Microsoft Office for Windows because there were capabilities > that he neede

Re: Preparing to convince to shift to non-propriety documents formats

2012-02-08 Thread Dotan Cohen
2012/2/5 Boaz Rymland : > of course the whole reason to this thread and me contacting the principal is > the fsck'ed up document. The document appears badly in LibreOffice > and Google docs (imported). Boaz, please send to me the document so that I can file OOo / LO bugs. Thanks. -- Dotan Cohen

Re: Preparing to convince to shift to non-propriety documents formats

2012-02-08 Thread Dotan Cohen
2012/2/5 Oleg Goldshmidt : > How about suggesting that such docs should be exported into HTML (which Word > is capable of doing, IIRC) before emailing? It would be nice if the creator > could look at the HTML in a browser to verify that it looks OK. of course, > the browser is likely to be IE 32-bi

Re: Preparing to convince to shift to non-propriety documents formats

2012-02-08 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 15:52, Micha wrote: > I can't seem to change page numbering (i.e suppress page numbering on > some pages) or change head/footer format. One thing that microsoft does > ok (but messes up a whole lot of others in return). > For this you need to define a custom header / footer

Re: Preparing to convince to shift to non-propriety documents formats

2012-02-08 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 16:38, Meir Michanie wrote: > Another issue is that at schools the kids are asked to use a site > named 'ofek' which it doesn't run under linux and my kids are force to > run windows in vmware,... Thanks, I just wrote to them. > another site that kids have access for free

Re: Preparing to convince to shift to non-propriety documents formats

2012-02-08 Thread Dotan Cohen
2012/2/5 Mordechai Behar : > Those are just developer tools, and even then, only a few institutions in > Israel are accepted as viable places of study that will allow a student to > download the software. > A better system is the MSDAA (Microsoft Developers Academic Alliance) which > allows a stude

Re: Preparing to convince to shift to non-propriety documents formats

2012-02-08 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 02:43, Oron Peled wrote: >> If not there >> are some free-as-in-beer plugins available for MS Office to support the >> OpenDocument formats. > > There was a Sun plugin, which was covered in the above interoperability > paper, but: >  * It needed some registration to use (so

Re: Preparing to convince to shift to non-propriety documents formats

2012-02-08 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On Feb 8, 2012, at 12:30 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote: This is a perfect time to explain: 1) They cannot have everything they want 2) Life is unfair 3) Some people (the management of that site) are irresponsible and hurt others That is how my 5 and 3 year old daughters would hear it in this situ

Re: Preparing to convince to shift to non-propriety documents formats

2012-02-08 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 16:38, Meir Michanie wrote: > Another issue is that at schools the kids are asked to use a site > named 'ofek' which it doesn't run under linux and my kids are force to > run windows in vmware,... The tech support representative for Ofek says that the site will soon support

Re: Preparing to convince to shift to non-propriety documents formats

2012-02-08 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 12:55, geoffrey mendelson > I see it differently. Not because I like it, or agree with it, but because I > am a cynic and believe the Israeli mindset to be different. I see it that > they will say that they have a limited budget and the cost of providing the > service to Wind

Re: Preparing to convince to shift to non-propriety documents formats

2012-02-08 Thread Michael Vasiliev
On 02/05/2012 10:26 PM, geoffrey mendelson wrote: On Feb 5, 2012, at 10:02 PM, Boaz Rymland wrote: yuck! So it was ok for SUN to buy StarOffice and give it away in order to reduce MS/Office sales? OpenOffice's free price and open source was a marketing tool too. Bad because it's "dumping",

Re: Preparing to convince to shift to non-propriety documents formats

2012-02-08 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 22:09, Michael Vasiliev wrote: > I, for one, use quite a lot of > code long abandoned by it's authors. > I knew that I'm not the last KDE 3 lover out there! -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com ___ L