Re: askubuntu.com-like site in Hebrew

2011-07-02 Thread Elazar Leibovich
By "style", I mean "convenience like stackoverflow.com is". For example: 1. You can ask question as anonymous user 2. You get notification when a question you asked is answered. 3 .Tags for questions. 4. Sane markup for code. There are numerous stackoverflow open source clones. Debain have such a

Re: askubuntu.com-like site in Hebrew

2011-07-02 Thread Tomer Cohen
Please correct me if I wrong, but isn't the application that powers every site in stackoverflow network is actually an open source project? 2011/7/2 Elazar Leibovich > By "style", I mean "convenience like stackoverflow.com is". For example: > > 1. You can ask question as anonymous user > 2. You

Re: askubuntu.com-like site in Hebrew

2011-07-02 Thread Elazar Leibovich
On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 10:21 PM, Tomer Cohen wrote: > Please correct me if I wrong, but isn't the application that powers every > site in stackoverflow network is actually an open source project? > It is not, but as I mentioned, there are many open source clones, which are similar enough, eg ask

UDP packets loss at Israeli ISPs during peak hours

2011-07-02 Thread Arie Skliarouk
Hi, The company I work at uses openvpn extensively. We settled on UDP-based protocol as it is more effective than TCP based. Inter-Israeli VPN connection works perfectly all of the time, whereas international VPN has erratic behavior on at least one ISP. I suspect the ISP (XFone 018) dropping UDP

Re: UDP packets loss at Israeli ISPs during peak hours

2011-07-02 Thread Etzion Bar-Noy
It's probably due to their over commit, and it means your UDP packets are in queue until expired. Since Israeli ISPs has learned the trick, I tend to believe ICMP packets have high priority, so that no customer will be able to complain. When you can't complain, well, it means that the problem is wi

Re: UDP packets loss at Israeli ISPs during peak hours

2011-07-02 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On Jul 3, 2011, at 6:11 AM, Arie Skliarouk wrote: Hi, The company I work at uses openvpn extensively. We settled on UDP- based protocol as it is more effective than TCP based. Inter-Israeli VPN connection works perfectly all of the time, whereas international VPN has erratic behavior on a

Re: UDP packets loss at Israeli ISPs during peak hours

2011-07-02 Thread shimi
On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 7:40 AM, geoffrey mendelson < geoffreymendel...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Jul 3, 2011, at 6:11 AM, Arie Skliarouk wrote: > > Hi, >> >> The company I work at uses openvpn extensively. We settled on UDP-based >> protocol as it is more effective than TCP based. >> >> Inter-Isra

Re: UDP packets loss at Israeli ISPs during peak hours

2011-07-02 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On Jul 3, 2011, at 8:02 AM, shimi wrote: There's a very good reason of using UDP and not TCP for tunneling. http://sites.inka.de/bigred/devel/tcp-tcp.html That's 10 years old. Even then it was questionable, UDP packets were dropped by ISPs all over the world when congested. That's why I

Re: UDP packets loss at Israeli ISPs during peak hours

2011-07-02 Thread Arie Skliarouk
Hi, On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 08:02, shimi wrote: > If you want, prior to calling them, to combat them with their own weapon, > thankfully there's a UDP protocol that probably no ISP would want to > degrade; Try switching to port 53 :-) > I think that would not work as I observe frequent name serv

Re: UDP packets loss at Israeli ISPs during peak hours

2011-07-02 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On Jul 3, 2011, at 8:28 AM, Arie Skliarouk wrote: I think that would not work as I observe frequent name server errors at exactly same periods (I am using Google's free DNS servers 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4). Hmm, need to switch to the local DNS servers... UDP is UDP. Google needs to have DNS

Re: UDP packets loss at Israeli ISPs during peak hours

2011-07-02 Thread shimi
On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 8:25 AM, geoffrey mendelson < geoffreymendel...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Jul 3, 2011, at 8:02 AM, shimi wrote: > >> >> There's a very good reason of using UDP and not TCP for tunneling. >> http://sites.inka.de/bigred/**devel/tcp-tcp.html

Re: UDP packets loss at Israeli ISPs during peak hours

2011-07-02 Thread shimi
2011/7/3 Arie Skliarouk > Hi, > > > On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 08:02, shimi wrote: > >> If you want, prior to calling them, to combat them with their own weapon, >> thankfully there's a UDP protocol that probably no ISP would want to >> degrade; Try switching to port 53 :-) >> > > I think that would

Re: UDP packets loss at Israeli ISPs during peak hours

2011-07-02 Thread Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda
2011/7/3 Arie Skliarouk > Hi, > > The company I work at uses openvpn extensively. We settled on UDP-based > protocol as it is more effective than TCP based. > > Inter-Israeli VPN connection works perfectly all of the time, whereas > international VPN has erratic behavior on at least one ISP. I su