Re: there is now one IT company too many

2006-11-25 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Peter wrote: > Really ? Let's see. The people who duplicated the ink 'protection' > chips on Lexmark ink cartridges did not duplicate the chips proper, > they duplicated the protocol. In other words they gained access to the > 'file format' (or 'wire format' in this case). They were sued by > Lexm

Re: there is now one IT company too many

2006-11-24 Thread Peter
On Fri, 24 Nov 2006, Beni Cherniavsky wrote: Frankly, the Americans deserve to suffer from their recent stupid laws. Soon they will outlaw any can openers whose serial number doesn't match the number on the can :-). Worse, the Copyright Office had to make a special waiver for blind people t

Re: there is now one IT company too many

2006-11-24 Thread Beni Cherniavsky
On 21/11/06, Geoffrey S. Mendelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, Nov 21, 2006 at 11:30:14AM +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > Hearing you talk about it makes it sound as if there is actual > infringing code. There is no actual infringing code. It's all just > patent related vapor. Sometimes pa

Re: there is now one IT company too many

2006-11-22 Thread Michael Jaffe
--0-2002734281-1164265975=:75679 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Tue, Nov 21, 2006 at 01:37:40PM +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > You don't have to actually listen to them. The first time that either: > 1. Novell claims that it is the only one you ca

Re: there is now one IT company too many

2006-11-22 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > But what if MS has a patent on something X or apache uses? No GPL issue > here. > Except this is no more of a problem today than it was half a year ago. The Novell deal changes nothing in that regard. Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Lingnu Open Source Consulting ltd. Have y

Re: there is now one IT company too many

2006-11-22 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, Nov 21, 2006 at 01:37:40PM +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > You don't have to actually listen to them. The first time that either: > 1. Novell claims that it is the only one you can buy Linux from due to > said deal > 2. MS sues ANYONE for Linux patent infringement > > Novel must, immediat

Re: there is now one IT company too many

2006-11-22 Thread Peter
On Wed, 22 Nov 2006, Nadav Har'El wrote: There are probably pantents on clicking, on menus, on "listing files in a directory", and who knows what - we just never checked. Not outside the USA. Outside the USA there are NO patents on such things. NONE. No software patents, remeber ? Also, whil

Re: there is now one IT company too many

2006-11-22 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Tue, Nov 21, 2006, Shachar Shemesh wrote about "Re: there is now one IT company too many": > > If they sell/give away Linux, they have to sell or give away the version > > with the infringing code removed to satisfy section 6. > > > Hearing you talk about i