Re: slashdot: m$ praises unix and linux shell clis and prepares to emulate them

2005-06-15 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 08:43:51PM +0300, Guy Teverovsky wrote: > Or you can enroll to the Beta and instead of listening to the rummors, jusge > it for yourself. > I did... My first impressions have been blogged here: > http://guy.netguru.co.il/archives/6-Dazed-and-confused-Microsofts-MSH-shell-co

RE: slashdot: m$ praises unix and linux shell clis and prepares to emulate them

2005-06-15 Thread Guy Teverovsky
ng. Guy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Geoffrey S. Mendelson Sent: Fri 6/10/2005 12:52 PM To: Peter Cc: Gilad Ben-Yossef; linux-il@linux.org.il Subject: Re: slashdot: m$ praises unix and linux shell clis and prepares to emulate them On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at

Re: slashdot: m$ praises unix and linux shell clis and prepares to emulate them

2005-06-10 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 01:05:30PM +0300, Oron Peled wrote: > MS people were really puzzled (CLI must be an old art that should > die when people get accustomed to the modern GUI world, isn't it?) > They took notice and said W2K would be a different story... Yeh, sure. Well, yet another defendant

Re: slashdot: m$ praises unix and linux shell clis and prepares to emulate them

2005-06-10 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Geoffrey S. Mendelson, from the post of Fri, 10 Jun: > > It really feels weird defending Microsoft on a Linux list. :-) if on the rare occasion they do take the right steps, they should be encouraged I think. plus, for IT people on this list that need to interoperate with MS machines, it

Re: slashdot: m$ praises unix and linux shell clis and prepares to emulate them

2005-06-10 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 12:04:39PM +0300, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: > Obviously you you didn't read the link I sent. It describes the origins > of exactly that shell that you describe, what M$ said about said shell > when it was first announced and... well, without giving out too much of > the pu

Re: slashdot: m$ praises unix and linux shell clis and prepares to emulate them

2005-06-10 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Oron Peled, from the post of Fri, 10 Jun: > Another relevant info that was presented was that a poll of the > attendees (sys-admins on large installations) concluded that > Windows-NT was very lacking in CLI facilities for serious use > at enterprise environment. Another anecdote I can add

Re: slashdot: m$ praises unix and linux shell clis and prepares to emulate them

2005-06-10 Thread Oron Peled
On Friday 10 June 2005 10:44, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: > There is only one response to their statement, which is to remind > everyone what happend the LAST time M$ tried to do a Un*x like shell: > > http://wigner.cped.ornl.gov/the-gang/1999-01/1396.html > > I find this very very funny indeed. I

Re: slashdot: m$ praises unix and linux shell clis and prepares to emulate them

2005-06-10 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 12:32:26PM +0300, Peter wrote: > Con you log in more that twice simultaneous sessions, or do you have to > buy extra licenses for that ? ;-) Sure, you can set the limit. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel [EMAIL PROTECTED] N3OWJ/4X1GM IL Voice: (077)-4

Re: slashdot: m$ praises unix and linux shell clis and prepares to emulate them

2005-06-10 Thread Peter
On Fri, 10 Jun 2005, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: It includes NFS, and two telent servers. One is like the old windows shell, the other lets you run a regular shell. I ssh into my ssytem and it is just about the same as any other UNIX like susyem. They include GCC and the shell will execute b

Re: slashdot: m$ praises unix and linux shell clis and prepares to emulate them

2005-06-10 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 10:44:50AM +0300, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: There is only one response to their statement, which is to remind everyone what happend the LAST time M$ tried to do a Un*x like shell: Obviously you have never used Micrsoft's Services for UNIX

Re: slashdot: m$ praises unix and linux shell clis and prepares to emulate them

2005-06-10 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 10:44:50AM +0300, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: > There is only one response to their statement, which is to remind > everyone what happend the LAST time M$ tried to do a Un*x like shell: > Obviously you have never used Micrsoft's Services for UNIX (free download). It includes

Re: slashdot: m$ praises unix and linux shell clis and prepares to emulate them

2005-06-10 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
Peter wrote: Quoting Slashdot: "The command line interface to the Windows Server OS will be changed to the new Monad Shell (MSH), in a phased implementation to take place over the next three to five years. 'It will exceed what has been delivered in Linux and Unix for many years', so says Bob

Re: slashdot: m$ praises unix and linux shell clis and prepares to emulate them

2005-06-09 Thread Peter
On Fri, 10 Jun 2005, Ira Abramov wrote: c) they will emulate it, makes sense, but where did you read that? and hope to better it in 3-5 years (assuming it will stand still ?) no, they said they will phase out the OLD shell within 5 years. The quote said that they will have a shell that

Re: slashdot: m$ praises unix and linux shell clis and prepares to emulate them

2005-06-09 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Peter, from the post of Thu, 09 Jun: > "The command line interface to the Windows Server OS will be changed to the > new Monad Shell (MSH), in a phased implementation to take place over the > next three to five years. 'It will exceed what has been delivered in Linux > > This means that:

re: slashdot: m$ praises unix and linux shell clis and prepares to emulate them

2005-06-09 Thread Peter
Quoting Slashdot: "The command line interface to the Windows Server OS will be changed to the new Monad Shell (MSH), in a phased implementation to take place over the next three to five years. 'It will exceed what has been delivered in Linux and Unix for many years', so says Bob Muglia, a Sen