Re: [OT???]Re: protecting one's IP [CLOSED TOPIC]

2003-11-17 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sun, Nov 16, 2003, Nadav Har'El wrote about "Re: [OT???]Re: protecting one's IP [CLOSED TOPIC]": > Check out your favorite dictionary or encyclopedia what a "patent" means, > or at least what it was supposed to mean before unscrupulous companies > star

Re: [REOPENED TOPIC] Re: [OT???]Re: protecting one's IP [CLOSED TOPIC]

2003-11-16 Thread Micha Feigin
On Sunday 16 November 2003 15:35, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: > On Sunday 16 November 2003 12:51, Omer Zak wrote: > > Actually, Ilan has a point here. > > > > 1. His salesmanship skills could use a small upgrade - by presenting the > >argument of avoiding MS-Windows in the first place, he'd get mor

Re: [REOPENED TOPIC] Re: [OT???]Re: protecting one's IP [CLOSED TOPIC]

2003-11-16 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Sunday 16 November 2003 12:51, Omer Zak wrote: > Actually, Ilan has a point here. > > 1. His salesmanship skills could use a small upgrade - by presenting the >argument of avoiding MS-Windows in the first place, he'd get more >cooperation than flames. I don't think so. I couldn't care l

Re: protecting one's IP

2003-11-16 Thread shtirlitz
Quoting Ilan Finci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, > The company I work with is creating executable code we give to potential > clients to test. > The are 2 methods that I am thinking right now. One method is is to use some external plugin, like the one from Aladin. You can just encrypt your librar

Offtopicness metadiscussion - was: Re: [REOPENED TOPIC] Re: [OT???]Re: protecting one's IP [CLOSED TOPIC]

2003-11-16 Thread Omer Zak
I changed the Subject line to emphasize the point which I tried to make. There were actually three separate issues: 1. Is it on-topic to ask about obfuscating code meant to run under Linux? 2. Is it wise to obfuscate code meant to run under Linux? 3. How to actually obfuscate code meant to run und

Re: [REOPENED TOPIC] Re: [OT???]Re: protecting one's IP [CLOSED TOPIC]

2003-11-16 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Omer Zak wrote: Actually, Ilan has a point here. 1. His salesmanship skills could use a small upgrade - by presenting the argument of avoiding MS-Windows in the first place, he'd get more cooperation than flames. 2. If Linus allows use of closed code Kernel modules with Linux and they proba

[REOPENED TOPIC] Re: [OT???]Re: protecting one's IP [CLOSED TOPIC]

2003-11-16 Thread Omer Zak
Actually, Ilan has a point here. 1. His salesmanship skills could use a small upgrade - by presenting the argument of avoiding MS-Windows in the first place, he'd get more cooperation than flames. 2. If Linus allows use of closed code Kernel modules with Linux and they probably are obfus

Re: [OT???]Re: protecting one's IP [CLOSED TOPIC]

2003-11-16 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Ilan Finci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > on 11/13/2003 05:07 PM Matan Ziv-Av said the following: > > On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Ilan Finci wrote: > > > > >> The company I work with is creating executable code we give to > >> potential clients to test. > > >> > >> The code comes as either an executable

Re: [OT???]Re: protecting one's IP [CLOSED TOPIC]

2003-11-16 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Sunday 16 November 2003 10:20, Ilan Finci wrote: > on 11/13/2003 05:07 PM Matan Ziv-Av said the following: > > On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Ilan Finci wrote: > >>The company I work with is creating executable code we give to > >> potential clients to test. > >> > >>The code comes as either an executable

Re: [OT???]Re: protecting one's IP [CLOSED TOPIC]

2003-11-16 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sun, Nov 16, 2003, Ilan Finci wrote about "[OT???]Re: protecting one's IP [CLOSED TOPIC]": > And as to dissolve the company - why? Can we protect _OUR_ algorithms??? > we don't use OTHERS patented algorithms but _OURS_. Check out your favorite dictionary or e

Re: [OT???]Re: protecting one's IP [CLOSED TOPIC]

2003-11-16 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Ilan Finci wrote: on 11/13/2003 05:07 PM Matan Ziv-Av said the following: This is off topic, as has already been said, but I must add that if the company tries to hide a patented algorithm, the best thing to do is to dissolve the company immediately. Sorry if you see it off topic, I thought tha

[OT???]Re: protecting one's IP [CLOSED TOPIC]

2003-11-16 Thread Ilan Finci
on 11/13/2003 05:07 PM Matan Ziv-Av said the following: On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Ilan Finci wrote: The company I work with is creating executable code we give to potential clients to test. The code comes as either an executable or a shared library (with a given API the client use to connect it to

Re: protecting one's IP

2003-11-16 Thread Ilan Finci
I never tried to hide this fact. The address I'm using is a private one, since I used it before I came to MobilEye, and will continue (I guess), even after I leave MobilEye. And as I already wrote, I didn't see this as off topic, but I might be wrong and sorry for this. Trying to show off you (

Re: protecting one's IP

2003-11-15 Thread Eran Tromer
On 2003/11/15 22:34, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: There was an elegant proof given at one of the HRL seminars last year that any obfuscator can be beaten. Are you speaking of the work by Boaz Barak et al. (http://www.wisdom.weizmann.ac.il/~boaz/Papers/obfuscate.ps)? If so, your summary is a bit mislead

Re: protecting one's IP

2003-11-15 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 04:03:23PM +0200, Ilan Finci wrote: > Is there a way to protect such executable/library, so it will be hard to > do reverse engineering and find out what the algorithms we use? Of > course, we protect ourself with patents, but we would like something in > the level of pr

Re: protecting one's IP

2003-11-14 Thread Efraim Yawitz
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: > So Ilan of Mobileye (I assume), here's a little lesson to you, while > we're already talking about hiding stuff: No need to assume: % The data in the WHOIS database of the .il registry is provided % by ISOC-IL for information purposes, and to a

Re: protecting one's IP

2003-11-13 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Thursday 13 November 2003 16:03, Ilan Finci wrote: > Hi, > The company I work with is creating executable code we give to > potential clients to test. > > The code comes as either an executable or a shared library (with a > given API the client use to connect it to his application). > > Is there

Re: protecting one's IP

2003-11-13 Thread Matan Ziv-Av
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Ilan Finci wrote: > The company I work with is creating executable code we give to potential > clients to test. > > The code comes as either an executable or a shared library (with a given > API the client use to connect it to his application). > > Is there a way to protec

Re: protecting one's IP

2003-11-13 Thread Jonathan Ben Avraham
Hi Ilan, I think that you are asking the wrong list. The denizens of this list spend most of their time working to ensure the oposite of what you want. - yba On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Ilan Finci wrote: > Hi, > The company I work with is creating executable code we give to potential > clients to t

Re: protecting one's IP

2003-11-13 Thread Oleg Kobets
importance of protection of such information. - Original Message - From: "Ilan Finci" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "linux mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 4:03 PM Subject: protecting one's IP > Hi, > The company I wo

protecting one's IP

2003-11-13 Thread Ilan Finci
Hi, The company I work with is creating executable code we give to potential clients to test. The code comes as either an executable or a shared library (with a given API the client use to connect it to his application). Is there a way to protect such executable/library, so it will be hard to