Re: nice article - good for pushng linux :)

2002-01-31 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Pardon my nit-picking > * gcc upgraded to 3.0 a long time ago, but most distros continued to > supply 2.9.5/2.9.6 as their default. April's distros will fell safe > enough to finally upgrade. I think maybe SuSE will move GCC 3.0 (maybe also debian - I don't follow debian so much), but R

Re: nice article - good for pushng linux :)

2002-01-31 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Thu, 31 Jan 2002, Eli Marmor wrote: > Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > > > > On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Dvir Volk wrote: > > > > * GNOME is going to release 2.0 on March 15. It seems I wasn't following their release schedule that well. Anybody working on updating the translation files of gnome (to reflact

Re: nice article - good for pushng linux :)

2002-01-31 Thread Eli Marmor
Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > > On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Dvir Volk wrote: > > > we'll be doing a big "don't be afraid of Linux" story soon. > > but i think it might better to wait until KDE3.0 is released and hebrew > > support will be optimal. > > btw, does KDE3.0 really deliver in the hebrew field as pro

Re: nice article - good for pushng linux :)

2002-01-30 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
Hi, Arash Zeini, Roozbeh and I are working on KDE 3.0 in FarsiKDE ml (http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/farsikde), we have a meeting in two days, to findout the current problems, let us know of any problems specific to hebrew. Yours, behdad On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:

Re: nice article - good for pushng linux :)

2002-01-29 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > > Can all programs accept hebrew text? Can I simply type Hebrew into any KDE > > program and view it "right"? > > You mean like this? http://witch.dyndns.org/stuff/ynet.png (take a look at > the URL bar) smilies are tricky when bidi is involved :-( If

Re: nice article - good for pushng linux :)

2002-01-29 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
> Can all programs accept hebrew text? Can I simply type Hebrew into any KDE > program and view it "right"? You mean like this? http://witch.dyndns.org/stuff/ynet.png (take a look at the URL bar) Hetz = To unsubscribe, send mail t

Re: nice article - good for pushng linux :)

2002-01-29 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
> Right now it is a beta, and betas crash. But is bidi in QT (QT, not > konqueror) feature-complete? Feature complete? I think yes, you're welcome to check out from kde's cvs the "qt-copy" and use it. > If konqueror has some problems rendering visual hebrew sites, then it's > tough. However: d

Re: nice article - good for pushng linux :)

2002-01-29 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > > apart from hebrew text editing, linux and kde 2.2 already fulfill all my > > humble needs, really > > I definately understand you on this issue... > > However - as much as I hate to say it - KDE 3.0 is still not OK (IMHO) > for end users right now.

Re: nice article - good for pushng linux :)

2002-01-29 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
> hmmm... well, it might be jumping a bit too fast, you're right. but it > was just meant as a metaphor to how much i'm waiting for the proper bidi > support to happen. > apart from hebrew text editing, linux and kde 2.2 already fulfill all my > humble needs, really (although the ximian connector

RE: nice article - good for pushng linux :)

2002-01-29 Thread Dvir Volk
> And that (IMHO) would be a very foolish step (again, IMHO) > ... > So as for your formatting XP - allow me to suggest to you - > stay with your XP > for now - and only when you see that all your needs can be > fulfilled with > Linux - then switch to Linux, and even then - I suggest you > le

Re: nice article - good for pushng linux :)

2002-01-29 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
On Wednesday 30 January 2002 00:08, Dvir Volk wrote: > I'll be keeping my fingers crossed. editing complex texts with kde2.2 > and biditext is very uncomfortable. > if KDE would be able to provide a bidi level that even will enable me to > edit long hebrew articles on it, i swear i'll format my XP

RE: nice article - good for pushng linux :)

2002-01-29 Thread Dvir Volk
--Original Message- From: Hetz Ben Hamo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 8:59 PM To: Dvir Volk; Ben-Nes Michael; linux ILUG Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: nice article - good for pushng linux :) On Tuesday 29 January 2002 13:47, Dvir Volk wrote: > thanks :-) &

Re: nice article - good for pushng linux :)

2002-01-29 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
> Globes is broken in Mozilla, too - not just on Linux. So maybe it's > Globes' fault, not Konqueror (as in: "We test only on MSIE, because > everybody uses MSIE, don't they?") No such thing with the KHTML developers - if you can see it with MSIE (without any special plugins like shockwave) - th

Re: nice article - good for pushng linux :)

2002-01-29 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
> Which makes me raise a question: are we going to see for the first time > ever (or at least since Redhat 5) a Redhat release numbered *.3 (i.e., > 7.3)? Nop, no such a beast will exist. > What I mean is, is there any chance that a new gcc will be stable enough > in 2 months to be useful as the

Re: nice article - good for pushng linux :)

2002-01-29 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Tue, Jan 29, 2002, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote about "Re: nice article - good for pushng linux :)": > RedHat 8.0 will include KDE 3, new GLIBC, new GCC (3.1) and will not make > binary compatible with older versions of RedHat 7.x, but of-course - will be > able to load/run RH 7

Re: nice article - good for pushng linux :)

2002-01-29 Thread Herouth Maoz
At 20:58 +0200 on 29/1/2002, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > (Ynet and Nana look ok, but > Globes seems totally broken) Globes is broken in Mozilla, too - not just on Linux. So maybe it's Globes' fault, not Konqueror (as in: "We test only on MSIE, because everybody uses MSIE, don't they?") Herouth

Re: nice article - good for pushng linux :)

2002-01-29 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
> That will take some time. I'm not sure if next versions of mandrake (8.2) > and redhat (8.0?)will include it, although I'll figure that at least > Mandrake will try very hard. > > But those will only be out on around March or April (I believe). Mandrake 8.2 will include KDE 2.2.2, not KDE 3.0

Re: nice article - good for pushng linux :)

2002-01-29 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
On Tuesday 29 January 2002 13:47, Dvir Volk wrote: > thanks :-) > we'll be doing a big "don't be afraid of Linux" story soon. > but i think it might better to wait until KDE3.0 is released and hebrew > support will be optimal. > btw, does KDE3.0 really deliver in the hebrew field as promised? Wel

Re: nice article - good for pushng linux :)

2002-01-29 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > > we'll be doing a big "don't be afraid of Linux" story soon. > > but i think it might better to wait until KDE3.0 is released and hebrew > > support will be optimal. > > btw, does KDE3.0 really deliver in the hebrew field as promised? > > That will take some time. I'm not

RE: nice article - good for pushng linux :)

2002-01-29 Thread Dvir Volk
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