On Sep 16, 2009, at 6:21 PM, shlomo solomon wrote:
This has been discussed before, but not recently and things do
change over
time. So, I'd like to hear opinions.
I've have both, a 2.5m aDSL line and a 5m HOT line. The aDSL line uses
012 as my ISP, the HOT line as Netvision.
I really can
This has been discussed before, but not recently and things do change over
time. So, I'd like to hear opinions.
Is there any technical reason not to make the move? I've been on ADSL since
the beginning of the service. At the moment I have a Bezeq supplied Siemens
SL2-141 Modem/Router/WiFi Acces
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 10:20 PM, Shlomo Solomon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> On Thursday 09 October 2008, shimi wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 7:38 PM, Shlomo Solomon wrote:
> > > My assumption is that I could still use the same router after moving to
> > > HOT. I
> > > would just have to unplug
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 10:47:39AM +0200, Shlomo Solomon wrote:
OK - so assuming I can't use the router I bought fom Bezeq after moving to
HOT, can anyone say if they've had any Linux experience (good or bad) using
the cheap routers sold by www.ivory.co.il?
The two models they have are:
1 - wr
On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 10:20:22PM +0200, Shlomo Solomon wrote:
> On Thursday 09 October 2008, shimi wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 7:38 PM, Shlomo Solomon wrote:
> > > My assumption is that I could still use the same router after moving to
> > > HOT. I
> > > would just have to unplug the ADSL l
On Friday 10 October 2008, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
> The usual routers only have one ethernet port on the LAN side, not 4.
> It is connected to an internal 5 port hub, so you get 4 LAN ports to
> plug things into, but the router part only sees one port.
OK - so assuming I can't use the router
On Thursday 09 October 2008, shimi wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 7:38 PM, Shlomo Solomon wrote:
> > My assumption is that I could still use the same router after moving to
> > HOT. I
> > would just have to unplug the ADSL line and plug the HOT modem into one
> > of the ethernet ports on the route
Shlomo Solomon wrote:
My assumption is that I could still use the same router after moving to HOT. I
would just have to unplug the ADSL line and plug the HOT modem into one of
the ethernet ports on the router. Am I correct?
well if you want to still use the router as a router, I'd think that y
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 7:38 PM, Shlomo Solomon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> On Wednesday 08 October 2008, Gilboa Davara wrote:
> > Do remember that unlike PPTP/L2TP, as far as my firewall is concerned
> > (which connects directly over Ethernet to the HOT modem), I'm using
> > normal IP-over-Etherne
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 09:23:23AM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:
I have lots of problems with Hot disconnecting and very high latency.
Hot blames Nezeq Beinleimi, Nezek blames Hot. I personally believe
that Nezeq is to blame for the latency, but Hot is to blame for the
_hours_ of downtime every month
On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 10:20:22PM +0200, Shlomo Solomon wrote:
Now I'm confused. Firstly, I certainly don't expect to plug the HOT modem into
the ADSL plug. As I already wrote (see quote above), I thought I could plug
the HOT modem into one of the ethernet ports. I may be missing something, but
2008/10/9 Shlomo Solomon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Now I'm confused. Firstly, I certainly don't expect to plug the HOT modem into
> the ADSL plug. As I already wrote (see quote above), I thought I could plug
> the HOT modem into one of the ethernet ports. I may be missing something, but
> I don't und
2008/10/8 Shlomo Solomon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I'm thinking of moving from ADSL to HOT (Cable). I wanted to know 2 things:
>
> 1 - Since today I have an ADSL router (bought from Bezek), I no longer use
> pptp, NAT or any other Linux tools to connect to the Internet. T
On Wednesday 08 October 2008, Gilboa Davara wrote:
> Do remember that unlike PPTP/L2TP, as far as my firewall is concerned
> (which connects directly over Ethernet to the HOT modem), I'm using
> normal IP-over-Ethernet to connect to the Internet (with somewhat lower
> MTU).
Since in my case (still
On Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 09:41:48PM +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote:
Do remember that unlike PPTP/L2TP, as far as my firewall is concerned
(which connects directly over Ethernet to the HOT modem), I'm using
normal IP-over-Ethernet to connect to the Internet (with somewhat lower
MTU).
You are a very
On Wed, 2008-10-08 at 11:03 +0200, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
> First of all, you do not want to use DHCP. The actual name of what is hapening
> is called MPLS and it to be blunt sucks. The extra overhead of a pptp or
> more likely l2tp tunnel is IMHO worth it, although if you are at the edge
> o
On Wed, 2008-10-08 at 21:36 +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-10-08 at 11:03 +0200, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
> > First of all, you do not want to use DHCP. The actual name of what is
> > hapening
> > is called MPLS and it to be blunt sucks. The extra overhead of a pptp or
> > more lik
On Wednesday 08 October 2008, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
> As for the phone deal, it's ok, but there are better and cheaper deals
> depending on what call quality you want, and where you want to call. To
> replace a BEZEQ line, it's a good deal and does not use their
> infrastructure.
Thanks for
On Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 11:43:55AM +0200, Shlomo Solomon wrote:
easier to manage and use /etc/hosts), I added the MAC addresses of all
machines to the "reserved IP address" list and specified what IP to give
each. This gives me 2 advantages:
1 - constant IPs on the network
2 - If needed, I can
On Wednesday 08 October 2008, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
> First of all, you do not want to use DHCP. The actual name of what is
> hapening is called MPLS and it to be blunt sucks. The extra overhead of a
> pptp or more likely l2tp tunnel is IMHO worth it, although if you are at
> the edge of lat
On Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 11:03:25AM +0200, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
As for reliability, service and speed, the best thing to do is to call
HOT and ask for their business internet sales office. They offer higher
speeds, better reliabilty and they will come and fix problems a lot better
and a
On Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 09:20:58AM +0200, Shlomo Solomon wrote:
Thanks, but maybe my question wasn't clear enough. In the past, I did pptp and
NAT on my Linux box and shared my internet connection over the entire
network. Since I bought an ADSL router from Bezek, everything is
literaly "plug an
Since you have a router, you shouldn't have any problem connecting your
network. Just configure your router.
I'm using HOT cables + netvision and it works fine.
Eran
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 9:20 AM, Shlomo Solomon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> On Wednesday 08 October 2008, Gilboa Davara wrote:
> > I
On Wednesday 08 October 2008, Gilboa Davara wrote:
> If you ISP supports it (Barak does) you can use DHCP instead of
> L2TP/PPTP.
> In this case, you router no longer needs to do anything (beyond NAT)
Thanks, but maybe my question wasn't clear enough. In the past, I did pptp and
NAT on my Linux bo
ice. Their infrastructure might be better, but
when it is untreated it is much more unreliable. See one example
http://www.warning.org.il and
http://www.tluna.co.il/companies/company.asp?CompanyID=128
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 5:41 AM, Shlomo Solomon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> I'm thin
On Wed, 2008-10-08 at 05:41 +0200, Shlomo Solomon wrote:
> I'm thinking of moving from ADSL to HOT (Cable). I wanted to know 2 things:
>
> 1 - Since today I have an ADSL router (bought from Bezek), I no longer use
> pptp, NAT or any other Linux tools to connect to the Intern
I'm thinking of moving from ADSL to HOT (Cable). I wanted to know 2 things:
1 - Since today I have an ADSL router (bought from Bezek), I no longer use
pptp, NAT or any other Linux tools to connect to the Internet. The router is
the only "computer" connected and all my Linux box
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