"Hetz Ben Hamo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Tzafrir Cohen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Meir Kriheli"
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Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 11:04 PM
Subject: Re: gentoo (was: lite distributions)
On Thu, 22 Aug 2002, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
> > Gentoo has been selected by you as the distro for the current Linbrew
> > project, which is obviously also newbie-oriented.
>
> I'm not following this therad very much, but picking gentoo for linbrew??
>
> like.. duh.. hello... the users who wants heb
On Thursday 22 August 2002 00:04, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
> > Gentoo has been selected by you as the distro for the current Linbrew
> > project, which is obviously also newbie-oriented.
>
> I'm not following this therad very much, but picking gentoo for linbrew??
>
> like.. duh.. hello... the users w
On Wed, 21 Aug 2002, "Oleg Kobets" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Moshe, stop flaming other distros
I'm pointing out flaws.
> it's not nice.
And here I was, thinking pointing out flaws for people to be aware
of is a nice thing.
> Gentoo is nice too, Debian should get some of the Gentoo's emerge
> Gentoo has been selected by you as the distro for the current Linbrew
> project, which is obviously also newbie-oriented.
I'm not following this therad very much, but picking gentoo for linbrew??
like.. duh.. hello... the users who wants hebrew Linux (not talking about
hebrew support!) are de
On Wed, 21 Aug 2002, Meir Kriheli wrote:
> Moshe,
>
> I'm trying to understand why some people resent trying new distributions/
> applications (note: at least trying). You don't have to act like some kid
> finding out his favorite super hero is being insulted or some knight
> defending his fort.
Moshe, stop flaming other distros, it's not nice. I am a Debian lover as
yourself and btw, I run woody on production server for almoust 6 months now
and I never complained.
Gentoo is nice too, Debian should get some of the Gentoo's emerge abilities,
such as --pretend switches, build from CVS, etc,
On Wed, 21 Aug 2002, Meir Kriheli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Debian (or Gentoo or any other distro) is not the end all be all of=20
> distributions. Any distro has an intendend audience and niche (some larger
> than others). If someone does not fit your niche, fine - OK. You don't have
> to go
Actually, there is a reasoning for doing both.
People who are interested in their OS as a working tool would be satisfied
by less than 100% performance, if achieving more compatibility means they
have to spend too much time installing and learning. (achieving low
maintainance)
People would
Moshe,
I'm trying to understand why some people resent trying new distributions/
applications (note: at least trying). You don't have to act like some kid
finding out his favorite super hero is being insulted or some knight
defending his fort.
If you can't discuss things without throwing FUD
On Wed, 21 Aug 2002 10:33:01 +, Meir Kriheli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Debian is constatly falling behind and can't keep up with new software
> releases
You probably meant "Debian actually tests software packages before inflicting
them on the users". Debian seems to manage to "keep up" q
On Tuesday 20 August 2002 15:52, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, Meir Kriheli wrote:
> > > > 1. Control of dependenices. With binary distros you're bound to the
> > > > dependencies as decided by the package maintainer. Let's for example
> > > > take vim in Debian. If you install vim l
On Tuesday 20 August 2002 20:54, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 10:01:45PM +0300, Diego Iastrubni wrote:
> > To exact:
> > - kernel, 2.4.19? special patches offered?
>
> Interesting tidbit re gentoo kernels: I had a chat with (one of?)
> their kernel maintainer(s) on irc a few w
On Tue, 2002-08-20 at 23:54, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 10:01:45PM +0300, Diego Iastrubni wrote:
>
> Interesting tidbit re gentoo kernels: I had a chat with (one of?)
> their kernel maintainer(s) on irc a few weeks ago, and his method of
> testing new kernels was "put it on
On Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 10:01:45PM +0300, Diego Iastrubni wrote:
> To exact:
> - kernel, 2.4.19? special patches offered?
Interesting tidbit re gentoo kernels: I had a chat with (one of?)
their kernel maintainer(s) on irc a few weeks ago, and his method of
testing new kernels was "put it on th
áéåí ùìéùé, 20 áàåâåñè 2002, 09:13, Tzafrir Cohen ëúá:
> Allow to to suggest a different route to the same goal:
>
> install {Your-Favorite-Binary-Distribution}. If YFBD is worth its salt
> then it is based upon some sort of packages system. Make sure that you can
> get those source packages as we
On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, Meir Kriheli wrote:
> > > 1. Control of dependenices. With binary distros you're bound to the
> > > dependencies as decided by the package maintainer. Let's for example take
> > > vim in Debian. If you install vim lipgpm will be installed as well. I
> > > hate gpm and never u
> > 1. Control of dependenices. With binary distros you're bound to the
> > dependencies as decided by the package maintainer. Let's for example take
> > vim in Debian. If you install vim lipgpm will be installed as well. I
> > hate gpm and never use it, don't want the stuff on my system.With Debi
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>
> > On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, "Oleg Kobets" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, Meir Kriheli wrote:
> On Tuesday 20 August 2002 06:13, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> > On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, Oleg Kobets wrote:
> > > Guys, I just finished installing Gentoo 1.2 with X and KDE 3.0.2.
> > >
> > > 1. It rocks.
> > > 2. It is very fast.
> > > 3. It took me 2.5 days non
On Tuesday 20 August 2002 11:59, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 02:43:20PM +, Meir Kriheli wrote:
> > On Tuesday 20 August 2002 06:16, Oleg Kobets wrote:
> > > Well, the installation is kinda difficult for newbie (if that is what
> > > you mean). I spent 15 minutes of read
On Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 02:43:20PM +, Meir Kriheli wrote:
> On Tuesday 20 August 2002 06:16, Oleg Kobets wrote:
> > Well, the installation is kinda difficult for newbie (if that is what you
> > mean). I spent 15 minutes of reading the guide and then just proceeded as
> > it says.
> > I haven't
On Tuesday 20 August 2002 06:16, Oleg Kobets wrote:
> Well, the installation is kinda difficult for newbie (if that is what you
> mean). I spent 15 minutes of reading the guide and then just proceeded as
> it says.
> I haven't any kind of dependancy problem and I have no idea what gentoo
> team sa
On Tuesday 20 August 2002 06:13, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, Oleg Kobets wrote:
> > Guys, I just finished installing Gentoo 1.2 with X and KDE 3.0.2.
> >
> > 1. It rocks.
> > 2. It is very fast.
> > 3. It took me 2.5 days non stop compiling to install base, xfree 4.1.2,
> > kde 3.0
On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, Oleg Kobets wrote:
> Guys, I just finished installing Gentoo 1.2 with X and KDE 3.0.2.
>
> 1. It rocks.
> 2. It is very fast.
> 3. It took me 2.5 days non stop compiling to install base, xfree 4.1.2, kde
> 3.0.2 and koffice 1.2-rc2
XFree 4.1.2? just like debian's stable, I s
ge mc' (to install MC) it merged the
entire X and then MC. Maybe it was a typo on my behalf ?
Oleg.
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> 3. It took me 2.5 days non stop compiling to install base, xfree 4.1.2,
kde
2.5 days ? what hardware ?
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On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, "Oleg Kobets" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Guys, I just finished installing Gentoo 1.2 with X and KDE 3.0.2.
..
> 2. It is very fast.
How fast? *Any* benchmarks? At all?
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> Have you looked at Gentoo? It's definitely not a beginner's distro, but=
> you can install as much or as little as you want.
> =
> And it is supposedly very fast, because you can compile EVERYTHING from=
> source (with local optimizations).
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Isn't compiling major packages like xfree and
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