Re: data security

2009-02-11 Thread Shahar Dag
il Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 12:07 PM Subject: data security hi one day this week, i started my computer, it behaved very strange - i had a blank screen for about 2 minutes before i got the boot screen, then it continued to boot from ... network the reason was that the hard driv

Re: data security

2009-02-04 Thread Oron Peled
On Wednesday, 4 בFebruary 2009, Amos Shapira wrote: > 2009/2/4 Shachar Shemesh > > Erez D wrote: > >> 1. i do not know of a major linux distibution (i.e. redhat/ubuntu etc... > > Debian does. The installer even offers to install it for you. > And so does Ubuntu. And Fedora also of course ;-) --

Re: data security

2009-02-04 Thread Yuval Hager
This whole encryption thread reminded me of a recent xkcd: http://xkcd.com/538/ :-) --y On Wednesday 04 February 2009, Moish wrote: > Shachar Shemesh wrote: > > Orr Dunkelman wrote: > >> The question is whether your swap partition is encrypted or not. > >> > >> In case it is not - you are proba

Re: data security

2009-02-04 Thread Moish
Meir Michanie wrote: He asked about what to do with his broken harddisk. - Original Message - Subject: Re: data security From: Erez D To: "Meir Michanie" CC: "linux-il" Date: 04-02-2009 13:47 On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Meir Michanie wrote: What abo

Re: data security

2009-02-04 Thread Meir Michanie
He asked about what to do with his broken harddisk. > - Original Message - > Subject: Re: data security > From: Erez D > To: "Meir Michanie" > CC: "linux-il" > Date: 04-02-2009 13:47 > > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Meir Michanie w

Re: data security

2009-02-04 Thread Moish
Shachar Shemesh wrote: Orr Dunkelman wrote: The question is whether your swap partition is encrypted or not. In case it is not - you are probably writing too many secrets to the hard disk. If it is - well, then I can understand why the machine is slow. It is encrypted, but swap is hard

Re: data security

2009-02-04 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Orr Dunkelman wrote: The question is whether your swap partition is encrypted or not. In case it is not - you are probably writing too many secrets to the hard disk. If it is - well, then I can understand why the machine is slow. It is encrypted, but swap is hardly used on my machine. An

Re: data security

2009-02-04 Thread Erez D
op is stolen ... > > > > - Original Message ----- > > Subject: Re: data security > > From: Shachar Shemesh > > To: "Orr Dunkelman" > > CC: "linux-il" ,"Erez D" > > Date: 04-02-2009 13:02 > > > > > > Orr Dunkelman wrote: >

Re: data security

2009-02-04 Thread Meir Michanie
What about /etc/shadow and other sensitive files? so no encrypting your root filesystem is also an issue. What if you put the hard drive under a very strong magnetic field? > - Original Message - > Subject: Re: data security > From: Shachar Shemesh > To: "Orr Dunkelm

Re: data security

2009-02-04 Thread Orr Dunkelman
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > Also, keep in mind that some things are automatically generated but still > sensitive. The most important examples are my bash history file ( > .bash_history under your home directory) and the database for the "locate" > command (/var/cach

Re: data security

2009-02-04 Thread Amos Shapira
2009/2/4 Shachar Shemesh > Erez D wrote: > >> >> so i though of a solution - use a crypto FS. >> but there are many problems with it. >> the practical problems are at least: >> 1. i do not know of a major linux distibution (i.e. redhat/ubuntu etc... ) >> that fully support crypto-fs out of the bo

Re: data security

2009-02-04 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Orr Dunkelman wrote: I guess that the configuration may still reveal some secrets (like which hosts are important enough to be in /etc/hosts), but it's better than nothing... On my laptop, "most" of the data is not encrypted. I discovered that compiling inside an encrypted partition is hor

Re: data security

2009-02-04 Thread Orr Dunkelman
2009/2/4 Erez D : > > when a hard drive dies and it is under warrenty, we need give the old one > when we want it replaced. > usuallyon the hard drive we have some personal things - pictures, documents, > or confidential data if it belonged to a company etc... > assuming the data is backed up (back

Re: data security

2009-02-04 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Erez D wrote: so i though of a solution - use a crypto FS. but there are many problems with it. the practical problems are at least: 1. i do not know of a major linux distibution (i.e. redhat/ubuntu etc... ) that fully support crypto-fs out of the box, so if i use it, i will need to do manual

data security

2009-02-04 Thread Erez D
hi one day this week, i started my computer, it behaved very strange - i had a blank screen for about 2 minutes before i got the boot screen, then it continued to boot from ... network the reason was that the hard drive has died. it wasn't even recognized by the bios. the computer was 2 months old