RE: connectivity question

2005-07-13 Thread Guy Teverovsky
Tuesday, July 12, 2005 11:09 AM > To: Linux-IL > Subject: connectivity question > > Here's a scenario I have: > > On one side of the globe, I have a Linux server (RHEL 3) in a hosting > firm. > On the other side of the globe - I have a Windows 2003 server whic

RE: connectivity question

2005-07-13 Thread Guy Teverovsky
ounts in AD. All the rest is bells and whistles. Guy > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Geoffrey S. Mendelson > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 12:38 PM > To: Hetz Ben Hamo > Cc: Linux-IL > Subject: Re: connectivity qu

Re: connectivity question

2005-07-12 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 03:53:16PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > What about SSH tunnel with pptp? a. pptp is a generic way to tunnel ppp over IP. You can plug in encryption. Why tunnel it on top of ssh? b. tunneling on top of TCP is generally a bad idea c. pptp has only the control connectio

Re: connectivity question

2005-07-12 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 03:30:56PM +0300, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: > On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 03:02:40PM +0300, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > > > Are you looking for an ssh client or server? There are a number of good > > ssh clients for windows. some are based on openssh. There is also putty. > > >

RE: connectivity question

2005-07-12 Thread Ohad.Levy
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ehud Karni Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 2:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; linux-il@linux.org.il Subject: Re: connectivity question On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 14:42:55 +0200, Danny Lieberman <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: MinGW [was Re: connectivity question]

2005-07-12 Thread Diego Iastrubni
ביום שלישי, 12 ביולי 2005, 13:51, נכתב על ידי Shlomi Fish: > > Whats the difference between it and MSYS+MinGW? it = MS Services for UNIX > Well, MinGW stands for Minimal GNU for Win32. It's basically a port of the > compiler and other compilation tool-chain, so it will run on Win32, but > without

Re: connectivity question

2005-07-12 Thread Ehud Karni
On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 14:42:55 +0200, Danny Lieberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ssh - requires MS services for Unix on the Windows boxes, secure, strong > authentication, good for transferring large files, or large numbers of > files over the WAN The Cygwin ssh/sshd is excellent (OpenSSH_4.0p1)

Re: connectivity question

2005-07-12 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 03:02:40PM +0300, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > Are you looking for an ssh client or server? There are a number of good > ssh clients for windows. some are based on openssh. There is also putty. > And there are some servers based on cygwin and such. open ssh runs fine on SFU an

Re: connectivity question

2005-07-12 Thread Ehud Karni
On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 13:41:48 +0300, Geoffrey S. Mendelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 01:07:48PM +0300, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > > Basically the same. Also includes vim, emacs and Xorg. But how will it > > help here? > > Cygwin won't. SFU supprts NFS, telnet and SSH. It ha

Re: connectivity question

2005-07-12 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 02:42:55PM +0200, Danny Lieberman wrote: > Geoff > > Fair enough. ssh is king. > > To summarize the thread - the Windows to Linux connection over the WAN > has a few options > > ssh - requires MS services for Unix on the Windows boxes, secure, strong > authentication, g

Re: connectivity question

2005-07-12 Thread Danny Lieberman
Geoff Fair enough. ssh is king. To summarize the thread - the Windows to Linux connection over the WAN has a few options ssh - requires MS services for Unix on the Windows boxes, secure, strong authentication, good for transferring large files, or large numbers of files over the WAN Webdav

Re: connectivity question

2005-07-12 Thread Danny Lieberman
Tzafrir I totally agree - but it really depends on how willing the customer is to start installing and maintaining software - Webdav is elegant for the client who wants to stay away from VPN or FTP client installations - like my client :-) danny Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at

Re: connectivity question

2005-07-12 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 01:59:13PM +0200, Danny Lieberman wrote: > ssh requires installing WinSCP on the Windows boxes and logging in with > a client side VPN in Youval's scenario Results from type ssh metatron (the host name of one of my windows machines) Welcome to the Interix UNIX ut

Re: connectivity question

2005-07-12 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 12:31:26PM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > So now the only solution that I see here is to purchase a minimum > Win2003 package, put all the video clips in the Linux server and > connect between them, so while the apache on the linux serves the > pages, the Windows MMS serves t

MinGW [was Re: connectivity question]

2005-07-12 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Tuesday 12 July 2005 12:54, you wrote: > ביום שלישי, 12 ביולי 2005, 12:38, נכתב על ידי Geoffrey S. Mendelson: > > On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 10:08:43AM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > > > What I'm trying to do - is to make a permanent connection between the > > > 2 servers. > > > > Microsoft Services

Re: connectivity question

2005-07-12 Thread Danny Lieberman
ssh requires installing WinSCP on the Windows boxes and logging in with a client side VPN in Youval's scenario Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 12:58:31PM +0300, Marc A. Volovic wrote: It is a reasonable choice. It has the disadvantage of being slow as a dead elephan

Re: connectivity question

2005-07-12 Thread Danny Lieberman
imho - both Samba and MS services for Unix unsuitable solutions for connecting systems running in two geographicly separated managed hosting facilities. Its an unrealistic solution because: a) latency b) tco of using vpns or fw vpns c) the average customer does not want to install any additi

Re: connectivity question

2005-07-12 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 01:07:48PM +0300, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > Basically the same. Also includes vim, emacs and Xorg. But how will it > help here? Cygwin won't. SFU supprts NFS, telnet and SSH. It has a real inet deamon so you can run your own port based services. See my other posting about inte

Re: connectivity question

2005-07-12 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 12:54:07PM +0300, Diego Iastrubni wrote: > Whats the difference between it and MSYS+MinGW? Sorry, no idea. If this helps, it's much more integrated than Cygwin, which IMHO implements a linux emulation layer on top Windows. In useage IMHO Cygwin is a halfway point between

Re: connectivity question

2005-07-12 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 12:58:31PM +0300, Marc A. Volovic wrote: > It is a reasonable choice. It has the disadvantage of being slow as a dead > elephant swimming up a treakle creek, but over an internet link that should > not be too much of a disadvantage. SSH seems fine to me. I run it over 100

Re: connectivity question

2005-07-12 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Hi, > What I am trying to understand, Hetz, is WHAT kind of a permanent link do > you want between the two machines? Replication? DRP? Failover? Quite simple... I need to do some video streaming for an audience who have no clue about Quicktime, Real Player, or even downloading/installing plugins

Re: connectivity question

2005-07-12 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 12:38:00PM +0300, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: > On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 10:08:43AM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > > What I'm trying to do - is to make a permanent connection between the > > 2 servers. > > Microsoft Services for UNIX. Free (as in beer, not open source). cyg

Re: connectivity question

2005-07-12 Thread Diego Iastrubni
ביום שלישי, 12 ביולי 2005, 12:38, נכתב על ידי Geoffrey S. Mendelson: > On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 10:08:43AM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > > What I'm trying to do - is to make a permanent connection between the > > 2 servers. > > Microsoft Services for UNIX. Free (as in beer, not open source). > > Pro

Re: connectivity question

2005-07-12 Thread Marc A. Volovic
Quoth Geoffrey S. Mendelson: > On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 10:08:43AM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > > Microsoft Services for UNIX. Free (as in beer, not open source). It is a reasonable choice. It has the disadvantage of being slow as a dead elephant swimming up a treakle creek, but over an internet

Re: connectivity question

2005-07-12 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 11:57:09AM +0200, Danny Lieberman wrote: > Hetz > > Yes there is a good way - WebDav. What I don't like about webdav is that you can basically only access it through apache. Samba is a daemon that is designed to run as root and support multiple users. Apache is designed

Re: connectivity question

2005-07-12 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 10:08:43AM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > What I'm trying to do - is to make a permanent connection between the > 2 servers. Microsoft Services for UNIX. Free (as in beer, not open source). Provides you with an almost complete posix environment including a telnet daemon, a

Re: connectivity question

2005-07-12 Thread Danny Lieberman
Hetz Yes there is a good way - WebDav. We have just implemented WebDav on Apache in a Linux Server RH3 in hosting (rackspace) with remote W2003 servers and XP boxes WebDav is well supported on both O/S's, its quite efficient and connections are persistent. You setup WebDav on Apache with basi

connectivity question

2005-07-12 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Here's a scenario I have: On one side of the globe, I have a Linux server (RHEL 3) in a hosting firm. On the other side of the globe - I have a Windows 2003 server which is hosted also. What I'm trying to do - is to make a permanent connection between the 2 servers. I can go ahead and use Samba