Matitiahu Allouche wrote:
Shachar Shemesh wrote:
What does that prove? Only that it is generally bad policy to lie to your
computer.
I was trying to answer the people who said "but this reversal in X4.3.0
is the first time we have seen any problems with it at all". I was
trying to explain th
On Tue, 11 Feb 2003 23:41:55 +0200
Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I do believe I was not properly understood. I'll try again.
> ... long explanation snipped ...
I now realize that we both want shift-9 to look like
left-parenthesis on screen. When I'll have more time I'll do
some rea
Shachar Shemesh wrote:
All those who complained that they have never seen any inconsistancies
before are welcome to try the following experiment:
* In Windows, open notepad.
* Switch the keyboard to hebrew, but leave the context LTR (i.e. -
press alt-right shift).
* Type shift-0. Instead of ")",
> >Now imagine how "intuitive" it would be for the display to present
> > '('
> >While the keycap on the keyboard is marked (on the plastic) with:
> > ')'
>
> It won't be. But in order for it to come out right, and behave according
> to the "logical" Hebrew standard, two things must happen
Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2003, Dekel Tsur wrote:
OTOH: is it safe to assume that whenever your keyboard is in "Hebrew mode"
you type RTL text?
That is up to the editing layer to decide. In general, the answer should
be "yes". In any case, just verified this with Windows.
All thos
On Wed, 12 Feb 2003, Dekel Tsur wrote:
> I still don't understand why some people claim that mirroring characters in
> the keymap is wrong.
> The alternative is that every Bidi toolkit (or an application that
> has its own bidi implementation like OpenOffice) should have a code for
> mirroring the
> > Then we agree: it's a bug in X.
> >
> > Who shall report?
>
> Please do so. I'm currently rather busy with some other problems (mainly
> getting everything ready for Qt-3.2) and preparing my visit to Israel
> beginning of March :)
I still don't understand why some people claim that mirroring
Oron Peled wrote:
Engravings...display engine What?
I do believe I was not properly understood. I'll try again.
I was talking about the engravings on the plastic keycaps on the keyboard
("Hacharita al gabey hamakashim").
So was I.
It has no $&#$^#$ display engine (yet).
Dure you do.
On Tue, 11 Feb 2003 10:06:46 +0200
Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As far as the engravings go, it is up to the display engine to display
Engravings...display engine What?
I was talking about the engravings on the plastic keycaps on the keyboard
("Hacharita al gabey hamakashim"
> Then we agree: it's a bug in X.
>
> Who shall report?
Please do so. I'm currently rather busy with some other problems (mainly
getting everything ready for Qt-3.2) and preparing my visit to Israel
beginning of March :)
Cheers,
Lars
==
> -Original Message-
> From: Shachar Shemesh
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 10:07 AM
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: xkb handling in upcoming 4.3.0
>
>
> Well, I beg to differ.
I suspect the bottom line is the same resu
Well, I beg to differ.
I'm not sure what 4.3.0 did, but the correct behaviour should be that
shift-9 produces "open brackets" in left to right languages, and "close
brackets" on right to left languages. shift-0 should produce the other one.
As far as the engravings go, it is up to the display e
I'd like to concur with that!
I though that I missed the line of this discussion because some positions
sounded
so wierd (mainly stuff like Shift-9 opening braces all the time). Not until
this
reversing began with KDE have I ever had problems with braces in any
language
I used on computers and no
Then we agree: it's a bug in X.
Who shall report?
Note to self: dont upgrade to X 4.3 yet.
- diego
ביום שני, 10 בפברואר 2003, 10:34, Lars Knoll כתב:
> > On Sun, 9 Feb 2003, Diego Iastrubni wrote:
> > > well, I do think that it should be done by a higher level toolkit. Like
> > > in windows..
On Sun, 9 Feb 2003 21:53:49 +0200
Diego Iastrubni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Please remember that shift9 means open braces, and shift0 means close them.
> How they are represented on screen is another thing.
No! shift-9 contains engraving (on the plastic) of *left parenthesis*
Under your interp
that would sure have saved us a lot of troubles,
but I also heard that there was some patch to pervious
X version that add bidi support anyone remembers?
does it work?
Ely Levy
System group
Hebrew University
Jerusalem Israel
On Mon, 10 Feb 2003, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Feb 2003, Diego
> On Sun, 9 Feb 2003, Diego Iastrubni wrote:
> > well, I do think that it should be done by a higher level toolkit. Like
> > in windows
> >
> > Please remember that shift9 means open braces, and shift0 means close
> > them. How they are represented on screen is another thing. X is doing
> > so
> well, I do think that it should be done by a higher level toolkit. Like in
> windows
>
> Please remember that shift9 means open braces, and shift0 means close them.
Yes, and if XFree 4.3 fixed the keymap, it's very simple to fix in Qt. I'll
just remove the hack I introduced to fix XFrees b
On Saturday 08 February 2003 19:20, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
10x for the informative links.
> On Sat, 8 Feb 2003, Meir Kriheli wrote:
> Two other notes:
>
> * the reason for this change is to make keyboard configuration in linux
> easier. There is still the limit of 4 layouts ("groups") that is proba
On Sun, 9 Feb 2003, Nadav Har'El wrote:
> BTW, note that not only X has a Hebrew keymap - some other applications
> have their own, most notably Vim. Is anybody planning to switch parantheses
> in Vim too?
Well... Vim.
Vim has parens mirroring. But not well done. Probably because it was done
for
On Sun, 9 Feb 2003, Diego Iastrubni wrote:
> well, I do think that it should be done by a higher level toolkit. Like in
> windows
>
> Please remember that shift9 means open braces, and shift0 means close them.
> How they are represented on screen is another thing. X is doing something that
> b
> On Sun, Feb 09, 2003, Tzafrir Cohen wrote about "Re: Re: xkb handling in
upcoming 4.3.0":
> > Well, if anybody has any objections now, all I can say is that it was
> > open ofr comments on ivrix-discuss and i18n@xfree for quite a while, and
not everybody knows or uses thos
On Sun, Feb 09, 2003, Tzafrir Cohen wrote about "Re: Re: xkb handling in upcoming
4.3.0":
> Well, if anybody has any objections now, all I can say is that it was open
> ofr comments on ivrix-discuss and i18n@xfree for quite a while, and there
> were practically no negat
On Sun, 9 Feb 2003, Diego Iastrubni wrote:
> áùáú, 8 áôáøåàø 2003, 21:20, Tzafrir Cohen ëúá:
> > * Another small change with XFree 4.3: (){}[]<> . All of those eight keys
> > were mirrored. This is expected to confuse KDE , but help to mozilla and
> > probably to OpenOffice.
>
> yes... I asked Lar
On Sat, 8 Feb 2003, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> * Another small change with XFree 4.3: (){}[]<> . All of those eight keys
> were mirrored. This is expected to confuse KDE , but help to mozilla and
> probably to OpenOffice.
Another change that has slipped my mind: There are now two additional
variants
áùáú, 8 áôáøåàø 2003, 21:20, Tzafrir Cohen ëúá:
> * Another small change with XFree 4.3: (){}[]<> . All of those eight keys
> were mirrored. This is expected to confuse KDE , but help to mozilla and
> probably to OpenOffice.
yes... I asked Lars to "hack" that, now he needs to reverse it...
- dieg
On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Andre E. Bar'yudin wrote:
> Am Freitag 07 Februar 2003 20:46 schrieb Barak Bloch:
> > Hi
> > U can just change the line
> > Option "XkbLayout" "il"
> > to:
> > Option "XkbLayout" "il,us"
> >
> > work for me.
>
> Does putting more than two groups work? Like in
> Optio
On Sat, 8 Feb 2003, Meir Kriheli wrote:
> Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
> > On Friday 07 February 2003 15:41 pm, Meir Kriheli wrote:
> >
> >>Looks like keyboard handling in xfree 4.2.99.4 (STB 4.3.0) has changed.
> >>
> >>Couldn't get it to work the old way using:
> >>
> >>Option "XkbLayout" "il"
> >>
Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
On Friday 07 February 2003 15:41 pm, Meir Kriheli wrote:
Looks like keyboard handling in xfree 4.2.99.4 (STB 4.3.0) has changed.
Couldn't get it to work the old way using:
Option "XkbLayout" "il"
Option "XkbOptions" "grp:switch,grp:shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll"
You sh
> Did you, by any chance, have a chance to test Wine's Hebrew support with
> this new setting? Wine has this annoying habit of translating each
> character pressed into a virtual key, and then looking it up in the
> exact same table used for translating into virtual key. This means,
> however, that
Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
On Friday 07 February 2003 15:41 pm, Meir Kriheli wrote:
Looks like keyboard handling in xfree 4.2.99.4 (STB 4.3.0) has changed.
Couldn't get it to work the old way using:
Option "XkbLayout" "il"
Option "XkbOptions" "grp:switch,grp:shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll"
Y
On Friday 07 February 2003 15:41 pm, Meir Kriheli wrote:
> Looks like keyboard handling in xfree 4.2.99.4 (STB 4.3.0) has changed.
>
> Couldn't get it to work the old way using:
>
> Option "XkbLayout" "il"
> Option "XkbOptions" "grp:switch,grp:shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll"
You should a
Am Freitag 07 Februar 2003 20:46 schrieb Barak Bloch:
> Hi
> U can just change the line
> Option "XkbLayout" "il"
> to:
> Option "XkbLayout" "il,us"
>
> work for me.
Does putting more than two groups work? Like in
Option "XkbLayout" "il,us,ru"
Regards,
Andre.
--
=
Hi
U can just change the line
Option "XkbLayout" "il"
to:
Option "XkbLayout" "il,us"
work for me.
Have a nice day
Barak B.
On Friday 07 February 2003 13:41, Meir Kriheli wrote:
> Looks like keyboard handling in xfree 4.2.99.4 (STB 4.3.0) has changed.
>
> Couldn't get it to work the old way
Meir Kriheli wrote:
Looks like keyboard handling in xfree 4.2.99.4 (STB 4.3.0) has changed.
Couldn't get it to work the old way using:
Option "XkbLayout" "il"
Option "XkbOptions" "grp:switch,grp:shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll"
and KDE's keyboard applet doesn't work.
Got the keyboard layout ha
Great, you made my day...
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 01:41:12PM +, Meir Kriheli wrote:
> Got the keyboard layout handling to work using:
>
> Option "XkbCompat" "group_led"
> Option "XkbSymbols" "us(pc104)+il+group(ctrl_shift_toggle)+group(switch)"
This also works for me with cygwin'
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