Re: NTP

2014-05-09 Thread E.S. Rosenberg
eBay - less then 150 NIS and free int. shipping http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?&_nkw=GlobalSat+BU-353-S4+USB שבת שלום, Eliyahu - אליהו 2014-05-09 13:21 GMT+03:00 Amos Shapira : > Which software? Smart Tome Sync? > On 9 May 2014 18:02, "geoffrey mendelson" > wrote: > >> >> Unless you already

Re: NTP

2014-05-09 Thread Amos Shapira
Which software? Smart Tome Sync? On 9 May 2014 18:02, "geoffrey mendelson" wrote: > > Unless you already have an old smartphone that you want to keep for this >> use, look for a simple USB GPS receiver - between $20-$40 (I can see it now >> for $35 in Amazon

Re: NTP

2014-05-09 Thread Amos Shapira
Umm, thanks. I might try this connected to the cubox-i I plan to buy. On 9 May 2014 17:16, "Ori Berger" wrote: > On 05/08/2014 04:25 PM, Amos Shapira wrote: > >> +1 for Smart Time Sync + ntp server. >> Now the perfectionist in me would still like to combine what it does >> with an NTP daemon refe

Re: NTP

2014-05-09 Thread geoffrey mendelson
Unless you already have an old smartphone that you want to keep for this use, look for a simple USB GPS receiver - between $20-$40 (I can see it now for $35 in Amazon ). Supported natively by ntpd

Re: NTP

2014-05-09 Thread Ori Berger
On 05/08/2014 04:25 PM, Amos Shapira wrote: +1 for Smart Time Sync + ntp server. Now the perfectionist in me would still like to combine what it does with an NTP daemon reference clock :) Unless you already have an old smartphone that you want to keep for this use, look for a simple USB GPS re

Re: NTP

2014-05-08 Thread Amos Shapira
+1 for Smart Time Sync + ntp server. Now the perfectionist in me would still like to combine what it does with an NTP daemon reference clock :) ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il

Re: NTP

2014-05-08 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On 5/8/2014 3:39 PM, Amos Shapira wrote: Doesn't make sense to me: 1. The NTP server only needs the time signal, not the location (which requires 4 satellites to be accurate), so even a signal from a single satellite should be sufficient. 2. "getting a signal lock" is mostly a matter of having

Re: NTP

2014-05-08 Thread Ehud Karni
Hi All, There are applications to update the time by GPS - e.g. Smart Time Sync It needs root access. It does sync periodically (at most twice an hour). Such an application together with NTP server application (there are a few) makes a stratum 1 time server. Ehud. -- Ehud Karni Tel: +

Re: NTP

2014-05-08 Thread Amos Shapira
Doesn't make sense to me: 1. The NTP server only needs the time signal, not the location (which requires 4 satellites to be accurate), so even a signal from a single satellite should be sufficient. 2. "getting a signal lock" is mostly a matter of having an up to date satellite position almanac and

Re: NTP

2014-05-08 Thread E.S. Rosenberg
One possible explanation may be that due to the very hard time cellphones have to get and maintain GPS locks (which is the reason we have technologies like AGPS) makes it impractical 2014-05-08 14:43 GMT+03:00 Amos Shapira : > I posted a question in > http://android.stackexchange.com/questio

Re: NTP

2014-05-08 Thread Amos Shapira
I posted a question in http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/68996/using-android-gps-as-ntp-refclock On 8 May 2014 10:56, geoffrey mendelson wrote: > On 5/8/2014 10:49 AM, Amos Shapira wrote: > >> Yeah I'm with you about taking advantage of the phone's GPS signal to get >> a good clock, an

Re: NTP

2014-05-08 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On 5/8/2014 10:49 AM, Amos Shapira wrote: Yeah I'm with you about taking advantage of the phone's GPS signal to get a good clock, and I thought that this is what this time-server thing does. What does it do if not that? The one I saw was just an Android port of the standard NTP server, which

Re: NTP

2014-05-08 Thread Amos Shapira
Yeah I'm with you about taking advantage of the phone's GPS signal to get a good clock, and I thought that this is what this time-server thing does. What does it do if not that? It's weird that nothing does it yet. Any takers? On 7 May 2014 14:27, geoffrey mendelson wrote: > On 5/5/2014 8:13 A

Re: NTP

2014-05-06 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On 5/5/2014 8:13 AM, Amos Shapira wrote: Please update here with the respons. It does not. This is in reference to an NTP server Android App being able to access the GPS hardware for time sync. Since most (all?) Android phones have GPS chips and Wifi, run Linux, etc, it would be a cheap way

Re: NTP

2014-05-04 Thread Amos Shapira
Please update here with the respons. On 5 May 2014 08:06, geoffrey mendelson wrote: > On 5/5/2014 7:41 AM, Amos Shapira wrote: > >> Umm. Nice idea. Perhaps this? http://time-server.android.informer.com/ >> >> >> Thanks, I saw that and asked them if it will use sync to the GPS in the > phone as

Re: NTP

2014-05-04 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On 5/5/2014 7:41 AM, Amos Shapira wrote: Umm. Nice idea. Perhaps this? http://time-server.android.informer.com/ Thanks, I saw that and asked them if it will use sync to the GPS in the phone as a source. I'm waiting for an answer. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson 4X1GM/N3OWJ Jerusalem Israel.

Re: NTP

2014-05-04 Thread Amos Shapira
Umm. Nice idea. Perhaps this? http://time-server.android.informer.com/ On 4 May 2014 18:44, geoffrey mendelson wrote: > On 5/4/2014 5:17 PM, Amos Shapira wrote: > >> >> You mean you want to use the Android phone as an ntp server? >> >> >> > Yes. It has GPS hardware, runs linux and has wifi. Sh

Re: NTP

2014-05-04 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On 5/4/2014 5:17 PM, Amos Shapira wrote: You mean you want to use the Android phone as an ntp server? Yes. It has GPS hardware, runs linux and has wifi. Should be enough to make your own GPS derived stratum 1 server. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson 4X1GM/N3OWJ Jerusalem Israel. ___

Re: NTP

2014-05-04 Thread Amos Shapira
You mean you want to use the Android phone as an ntp server? For ntp client, there is clocksync: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.org.amip.ClockSync It requires root in order to sung the clock for less than 30 seconds. On 4 May 2014 14:27, "geoffrey mendelson" wrote: > On 5/4/20

Re: NTP

2014-05-04 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On 5/4/2014 2:11 PM, Geoff Shang wrote: Joining this late, but does anyone know if there is an NTP device driver for an android phone? You can get a new Android 4 phone for 500 NIS, and used ones range in price from that to nothing (especially ones with cracked screens). TIA. Geoff. -- Geo

Re: NTP

2014-05-04 Thread Geoff Shang
Hi, Thanks everyone for your responses. On Fri, 2 May 2014, Shlomi Fish wrote: I've had a similar problem on my laptop and I solved it by running "ntpdate -u" (Where "-u" tells it to use the unprivileged port which is also used by the "-d" flag which worked) instead of a regular "ntpdate". I'm

Re: NTP

2014-05-02 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi all, On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 9:45 PM, Geoff Shang wrote: > Hi, > > We have an array of devices and computers. Two Linux machines, a win7 > box, an iMac, a Macbook Pro, an iPad, an iPad Mini, two iPods, three > iPhones and two Nexus 7s. > > We have Internet service from Bezeqint via Bezeq DSL

Re: NTP

2014-05-02 Thread E.S. Rosenberg
I've never had trouble with NTP... my guess is your ISP is blocking or interfering, get a level 2 or better rep. they should be able to unblock it if you make enough noise... שבת שלום 2014-05-02 9:24 GMT+03:00 Amos Shapira : > 1. If you are running ntp daemons on your linux machines then use ntp

Re: NTP

2014-05-01 Thread Amos Shapira
1. If you are running ntp daemons on your linux machines then use ntpq to query what it thinks it synchs with and its synch status. 2. Use traceroute with UDP port 123 to see whether you manage to reach the server you pick. On 2 May 2014 07:19, Baruch Siach wrote: > Hi Geoff, > > On Thu, May 01

Re: NTP

2014-05-01 Thread Baruch Siach
Hi Geoff, On Thu, May 01, 2014 at 09:45:45PM +0300, Geoff Shang wrote: > 2. Has anyone found a server that works? ntp.iix.net.il works for me from home (012), and work (BezeqBL). baruch -- http://baruch.siach.name/blog/ ~. .~ Tk Open Systems =}-

Re: NTP

2014-05-01 Thread Constantine Shulyupin
There is only one inactive server on il.pool.ntp.org, see http://www.pool.ntp.org/zone/il try asia.pool.ntp.org, europe.pool.ntp.org, anorth-america.pool.ntp.org On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > On Thu, May 01, 2014 at 09:45:45PM +0300, Geoff Shang wrote: > >> 2. Has anyon

Re: NTP

2014-05-01 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Thu, May 01, 2014 at 09:45:45PM +0300, Geoff Shang wrote: > 2. Has anyone found a server that works? Have you tried il.pool.ntp.org ? -- Tzafrir Cohen | tzaf...@jabber.org | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il || a Mutt's tzaf...@cohens.org.il || be

Re: NTP not updating the local clock

2008-07-23 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Oren Held wrote: On Wednesday 23 July 2008 16:26, Shachar Shemesh wrote: I have a strange problem, and it is happening on several servers. I set up NTP to synchronize, sometimes with a local NTP source (say, a Windows Server domain controller) and sometime external (the usual ntp servers). T

Re: NTP not updating the local clock

2008-07-23 Thread Oren Held
On Wednesday 23 July 2008 16:26, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > I have a strange problem, and it is happening on several servers. > > I set up NTP to synchronize, sometimes with a local NTP source (say, a > Windows Server domain controller) and sometime external (the usual ntp > servers). The NTP process

Re: NTP not updating the local clock

2008-07-23 Thread Tomer Perry
Amos Shapira wrote: 2008/7/23 Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >: Hi all, I have a strange problem, and it is happening on several servers. I set up NTP to synchronize, sometimes with a local NTP source (say, a Windows Server domain controller) and

Re: NTP not updating the local clock

2008-07-23 Thread Amos Shapira
2008/7/23 Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi all, > > I have a strange problem, and it is happening on several servers. > > I set up NTP to synchronize, sometimes with a local NTP source (say, a > Windows Server domain controller) and sometime external (the usual ntp > servers). The NTP pro

Re: NTP not updating the local clock

2008-07-23 Thread Noam Meltzer
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Attached as is. The Debian pool servers are unreachable due to the > firewall. I can try removing them, but I doubt it will make any difference. > They hardly show up when you do ntpq, so I doubt they matter. I *think

Re: NTP not updating the local clock

2008-07-23 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Noam Meltzer wrote: Hi, Can you show us an example of /etc/ntp.conf ? Attached as is. The Debian pool servers are unreachable due to the firewall. I can try removing them, but I doubt it will make any difference. They hardly show up when you do ntpq, so I doubt they matter. Shachar # /etc/nt

Re: NTP not updating the local clock

2008-07-23 Thread Noam Meltzer
Hi, Can you show us an example of /etc/ntp.conf ? - Noam On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 4:26 PM, Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > I have a strange problem, and it is happening on several servers. > > I set up NTP to synchronize, sometimes with a local NTP source (say, a > Windo

Re: NTP configuration

2007-09-01 Thread Amit Aronovitch
Geoff Shang wrote: > Hi, > > Those of you who are paying attention will remember that I moved here > from Australia 4 months ago. Again, thanks to those who have answered > questions for me in that time (don't worry, there will be more). > > I've finally decided that it's time to configure NTP.

Re: NTP configuration

2007-09-01 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Sat, Sep 01, 2007 at 01:21:31AM +0300, Geoff Shang wrote: > I've done a bit of DNS work and found the following which may or may not > yield actual working servers: > > * ntp.netvision.net.il (2 addresses) > * ntp.012.net.il > * time.inter.net.il > * time.bezeqint.net > > Anyone know if any o

Re: NTP configuration

2007-09-01 Thread Noam Meltzer
There is also ntp.ac.il On 9/1/07, Yedidyah Bar-David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 2007/9/1, Geoff Shang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Hi, > > > > Those of you who are paying attention will remember that I moved here > from > > Australia 4 months ago. Again, thanks to those who have answered > quest

Re: NTP configuration

2007-08-31 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
2007/9/1, Geoff Shang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, > > Those of you who are paying attention will remember that I moved here from > Australia 4 months ago. Again, thanks to those who have answered questions > for me in that time (don't worry, there will be more). > > I've finally decided that it's t

Re: NTP configuration

2007-08-31 Thread Amos Shapira
On 31/08/2007, Geoff Shang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've done a bit of DNS work and found the following which may or may not > yield actual working servers: > > * ntp.netvision.net.il (2 addresses) > * ntp.012.net.il > * time.inter.net.il > * time.bezeqint.net > > Anyone know if any of these a

Re: ntp

2001-03-24 Thread Ariel Biener
On Sat, 24 Mar 2001, Shaul Karl wrote: > > How will you convince bezeqint to have its own ntp server? There is nothing to convince them about. It's for their own good. Other ISPs already use one of their routers as NTP server. The fact BezeqInt tend to not cate about netiquette at all (for exam

Re: ntp

2001-03-23 Thread Shaul Karl
> > > > Hi, > > > >The way I see this being properly implemented is the following: > >Every ISP provides on one of it's routers, a NTP service for it's > clients. This server can synchronize both with ntp.ac.il, and > ntp.iix.net.il. Then, the ISP will make that server known to it

Re: NTP Question.

2000-10-25 Thread Shachar Shemesh
As far as I remeber, the recommended NTP setup is to have one machine sync with several servers on the internet, and have all other machines on the local network sync with that machine. This does have some redundancy problems (i.e. - little redundancy), but as NTP learns the drift and adjusts acco

Re: NTP Question.

2000-10-24 Thread Shaul Karl
> Hi... > > How can i setup a Linux RH 6.2 box to sync time with a Solaris 2.6 box. if > not possible... then with another linux.. > (the Solaris is currently syncing with other Solarises.) > As you have already hinted, you can set some machine, be it Solaris or Linux to be an ntp server and

Re: ntp and updating the bios clock by the kernel every 11 minutes.

2000-01-30 Thread Shaul Karl
> On Sun, 30 Jan 2000, Shaul Karl wrote: > > > As far as I know new kernels does not write the correct time to the bios clock > > every 11 min even if the system has a good time reference (ntp or such). This > > is contrary to what older kernels used to do. > > I have never heard of a kernel v

Re: ntp and updating the bios clock by the kernel every 11 minutes.

2000-01-30 Thread Ariel Biener
On Sun, 30 Jan 2000, Ira Abramov wrote: > I have never heard of a kernel voluntarily updating the hardware clock, > or anyything at a weird 11 minute interval. I do however set on some > wild-clocked old mobos a cron job to write the HWclock once an hour or > once a day. however if you have NTP

Re: ntp and updating the bios clock by the kernel every 11 minutes.

2000-01-30 Thread Ira Abramov
On Sun, 30 Jan 2000, Shaul Karl wrote: > As far as I know new kernels does not write the correct time to the bios clock > every 11 min even if the system has a good time reference (ntp or such). This > is contrary to what older kernels used to do. I have never heard of a kernel voluntarily upd