Re: Cable-Modem Mini-Howto for Israeli Linux Users

2003-01-09 Thread Amit Margalit
Hi, On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Eliran wrote: > After I connect, I can ping everything, but without watching any packets > moving around. (That's include Zahav's DNS servers). > Pinging pns.inter.net.il returns answer (packets.) though. > > I guess the main problem is on the routing table. Do you have a

Re: Cable-Modem Mini-Howto for Israeli Linux Users

2003-01-09 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Eliran wrote: > Alex Chudnovsky wrote: > > >How doesn't it work? What happens if you run pptp pns.inter.net.il? What is > >your /etc/ppp/options? > >I checked the issue, and I DO SUCCEED to establish at least VPN connection. I > >can't establish PPP connection, as I haven't a u

Re: Cable-Modem Mini-Howto for Israeli Linux Users

2003-01-09 Thread Eliran
Alex Chudnovsky wrote: How doesn't it work? What happens if you run pptp pns.inter.net.il? What is your /etc/ppp/options? I checked the issue, and I DO SUCCEED to establish at least VPN connection. I can't establish PPP connection, as I haven't a username/password for Internet Zahav, so PPP au

Re: Cable-Modem Mini-Howto for Israeli Linux Users

2003-01-09 Thread Alex Chudnovsky
On Thursday 09 January 2003 19:21, Eliran wrote: > Alex Chudnovsky wrote: > >Can you provide details of your Windows connection? Not username and > > password, but VPN server name? Is it PPTP or L2TP? Windows XP supports > > both, L2TP support in Linux is not so strong yet. > > VPN: pns.inter.net.i

Re: Cable-Modem Mini-Howto for Israeli Linux Users

2003-01-09 Thread Eliran
Alex Chudnovsky wrote: Can you provide details of your Windows connection? Not username and password, but VPN server name? Is it PPTP or L2TP? Windows XP supports both, L2TP support in Linux is not so strong yet. VPN: pns.inter.net.il And why? What is their exact answer, "It's impossible" or

Re: Cable-Modem Mini-Howto for Israeli Linux Users

2003-01-09 Thread Alex Chudnovsky
On Thursday 09 January 2003 14:23, Eliran wrote: > Alex Chudnovsky wrote: > >>I'm using the default dialer that comes with Windows. > > > >As I've already said, all that Internet Zahav "dialer" does is to define a > >connection for the default Windows dialer. It's just some "run-once" > > program.

Re: Cable-Modem Mini-Howto for Israeli Linux Users

2003-01-09 Thread Eliran
Alex Chudnovsky wrote: I'm using the default dialer that comes with Windows. As I've already said, all that Internet Zahav "dialer" does is to define a connection for the default Windows dialer. It's just some "run-once" program. I've tried anything... I read dozens of FAQs hundred of time

Re: Cable-Modem Mini-Howto for Israeli Linux Users

2003-01-09 Thread Eliran
Amit Margalit wrote: Hi Eliran, Can you tell me what the 'VPN server' is? Probably something like matav.inter.net.il or something? I'll add this to the cable-modem mini-howto. Amit It doesn't relate to Matav neither any-other-cables-company, simply it is: pns.inter.net.il

Re: Cable-Modem Mini-Howto for Israeli Linux Users

2003-01-08 Thread guy keren
On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Alex Chudnovsky wrote: > On Thursday 09 January 2003 00:55, Amit Margalit wrote: > > > > Can you tell me what the 'VPN server' is? Probably something like > > matav.inter.net.il or something? I'll add this to the cable-modem > > mini-howto. > > Do you mind if I answer instead?

Re: Cable-Modem Mini-Howto for Israeli Linux Users

2003-01-08 Thread Alex Chudnovsky
On Thursday 09 January 2003 00:55, Amit Margalit wrote: > Hi Eliran, > > Can you tell me what the 'VPN server' is? Probably something like > matav.inter.net.il or something? I'll add this to the cable-modem > mini-howto. > > Amit Do you mind if I answer instead? VPN server is a server you ru

Re: Cable-Modem Mini-Howto for Israeli Linux Users

2003-01-08 Thread Amit Margalit
Hi Eliran, Can you tell me what the 'VPN server' is? Probably something like matav.inter.net.il or something? I'll add this to the cable-modem mini-howto. Amit On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Alex Chudnovsky wrote: > > I'm using the default dialer that comes with Windows. > As I've already said, al

Re: Cable-Modem Mini-Howto for Israeli Linux Users

2003-01-08 Thread Alex Chudnovsky
On Wednesday 08 January 2003 21:54, Eliran wrote: > Alex Chudnovsky wrote: > >On Wednesday 08 January 2003 21:21, Eliran wrote: > >>Alex Chudnovsky wrote: > >>>I work with Netvision @ Matav, our relatives work with Bezeq > >>> International @ Matav. Pure personal experience as such. I have no such

Re: Cable-Modem Mini-Howto for Israeli Linux Users

2003-01-08 Thread Eliran
Alex Chudnovsky wrote: On Wednesday 08 January 2003 21:21, Eliran wrote: Alex Chudnovsky wrote: I work with Netvision @ Matav, our relatives work with Bezeq International @ Matav. Pure personal experience as such. I have no such experience with Internet Zahav. If you are a client of Matav

Re: Cable-Modem Mini-Howto for Israeli Linux Users

2003-01-08 Thread Alex Chudnovsky
On Wednesday 08 January 2003 21:21, Eliran wrote: > Alex Chudnovsky wrote: > >I work with Netvision @ Matav, our relatives work with Bezeq International > > @ Matav. Pure personal experience as such. I have no such experience with > > Internet Zahav. If you are a client of Matav, their site has lin

Re: Cable-Modem Mini-Howto for Israeli Linux Users

2003-01-08 Thread Eliran
Alex Chudnovsky wrote: I work with Netvision @ Matav, our relatives work with Bezeq International @ Matav. Pure personal experience as such. I have no such experience with Internet Zahav. If you are a client of Matav, their site has links to all the providers' sites providing appropriate instr

Re: Cable-Modem Mini-Howto for Israeli Linux Users

2003-01-08 Thread Alex Chudnovsky
On Wednesday 08 January 2003 12:09, Eliran wrote: > Alex Chudnovsky wrote: > >I've forgotten to add that my cable provider is Matav. > >And as far as I know, Bezeq International @ Matav doesn't require pptp - > > just plain DHCP connection. > > Any HOW-TO for Internet Zahav ? ;-) I work with Netvis

Re: Cable-Modem Mini-Howto for Israeli Linux Users

2003-01-08 Thread Eliran
Alex Chudnovsky wrote: I've forgotten to add that my cable provider is Matav. And as far as I know, Bezeq International @ Matav doesn't require pptp - just plain DHCP connection. Any HOW-TO for Internet Zahav ? ;-) = To unsubsc

Re: Cable-Modem Mini-Howto for Israeli Linux Users

2003-01-07 Thread Alex Chudnovsky
On Tuesday 07 January 2003 21:55, Alex Chudnovsky wrote: > On Tuesday 07 January 2003 21:03, Amit Margalit wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > I wrote a mini-howto on using Cable-Modems in Linux. I'd love to get > > comments with info about other cable operators and ISPs. > > The same way applies for Net

Re: Cable-Modem Mini-Howto for Israeli Linux Users

2003-01-07 Thread Alex Chudnovsky
On Tuesday 07 January 2003 21:03, Amit Margalit wrote: > Hello all, > > I wrote a mini-howto on using Cable-Modems in Linux. I'd love to get > comments with info about other cable operators and ISPs. The same way applies for Netvision, with the obvious changes in local DNSs and cable gateway, whic

Re: Cable modem after 2 weeks

2002-04-07 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
Eli Marmor wrote: > Bad. > Very bad. > Contrary to Bezeq, who makes its big money out of frame-relay and > Sifranet, CATV doesn't dacrifice any source of income by giving high > upstream bandwidth. Yes, it does. The cable network is designed for DOWNSTREAM, not upstream. The upstream bandwidth or

Re: Cable modem after 2 weeks

2002-04-07 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote about "Re: Cable modem after 2 weeks": > If you say so. Conventionally, though, it's kilobit per second. I am > not aware of any standard that mandates that, but MB is megabytes, Mb > is megabits, etc. E.g. > > http://ww

Re: Cable modem after 2 weeks

2002-04-07 Thread Eli Marmor
Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: > > Eli Marmor wrote: > > > > Upstream! > > Upstream! > > You forgot to report the upstream bandwidth! > > Based upon ftp'ing a some files I had available: > (note that the connection I used is capable of 26 kbytes per second max) > > Small file: > > 619.56 kB 10

RE: Cable modem after 2 weeks

2002-04-07 Thread Amir Tal
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf > Of Oleg Goldshmidt > Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 1:52 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Cable modem after 2 weeks > > > Amir

Re: Cable modem after 2 weeks

2002-04-07 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Amir Tal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 50kbps = 50 kilobyte per second. ... Ok ? :) If you say so. Conventionally, though, it's kilobit per second. I am not aware of any standard that mandates that, but MB is megabytes, Mb is megabits, etc. E.g. http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/M/MB.html -- Ol

RE: Cable modem after 2 weeks

2002-04-07 Thread Amir Tal
> -Original Message- > From: Sagi Bashari [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 2:27 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Eli Marmor' > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Cable modem after 2 weeks > > > From: "A

RE: Cable modem after 2 weeks

2002-04-07 Thread Amir Tal
> -Original Message- > From: Geoffrey S. Mendelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 1:30 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: 'Sagi Bashari'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Eli Marmor'; > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Cable m

RE: Cable modem after 2 weeks

2002-04-07 Thread Amir Tal
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf > Of Oleg Goldshmidt > Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 1:24 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Eli Marmor'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Cable modem

Re: Cable modem after 2 weeks

2002-04-07 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: > Are you sure you are not mixing units here? Geoff seems to quote > everything in bytes (and I assume kB stands for kilobyte, as usual). > 11 kB/s id _more_ than 50kb/s if kb stands for kilobits. I have to. By the time I actually get the data the only unit of throughput i

Re: Cable modem after 2 weeks

2002-04-07 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
Amir Tal wrote: > of us have more bandwidth then > What AZTV are selling now ;) > So it is true. Trust me, I have a 4 pc's LAN running on that connection > for a long time, so I know what it can\cant do. During the experiment, it would not make sense to limit your bandwitdh. Since there were onl

Re: Cable modem after 2 weeks

2002-04-07 Thread Sagi Bashari
From: "Amir Tal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I don't think that it is. AZTV offer (easy+) include 96kbps > > upstream (12kB/s > > max) > > Well, I am using cables for 6 months (I am from the experiment) and some > of us have more bandwidth then > What AZTV are selling now ;) > So it is true. Trust m

Re: Cable modem after 2 weeks

2002-04-07 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Amir Tal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > 619.56 kB 10.96 kB/s > > That is WAY to slow man...i get more then 50kb upstream in similar > locations. Are you sure you are not mixing units here? Geoff seems to quote everything in bytes (and I assume kB stands for kilobyte, as usual). 11 kB/s id _

RE: Cable modem after 2 weeks

2002-04-07 Thread Amir Tal
> -Original Message- > From: Sagi Bashari [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 2:03 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Eli Marmor' > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Cable modem after 2 weeks > > > From: "

Re: Cable modem after 2 weeks

2002-04-07 Thread Sagi Bashari
From: "Amir Tal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Based upon ftp'ing a some files I had available: > > (note that the connection I used is capable of 26 kbytes per > > second max) > > > > Small file: > > > > 619.56 kB 10.96 kB/s > > That is WAY to slow man...i get more then 50kb upstream in similar > loc

Re: Cable modem after 2 weeks

2002-04-07 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
> I wrote: > > 619.56 kB 10.96 kB/s Amir Tal wrote: > That is WAY to slow man...i get more then 50kb upstream in similar > locations. > What modem to you have ? > The IBM one ? No I have the RCA (Thompson) modem. Artutzi Zahav claimed 64k bits per second max. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mende

RE: Cable modem after 2 weeks

2002-04-07 Thread Amir Tal
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Geoffrey > S. Mendelson > Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 12:36 PM > To: Eli Marmor > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Cable modem after 2 weeks > > > El

Re: Cable modem after 2 weeks

2002-04-07 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
Eli Marmor wrote: > > Upstream! > Upstream! > You forgot to report the upstream bandwidth! Based upon ftp'ing a some files I had available: (note that the connection I used is capable of 26 kbytes per second max) Small file: 619.56 kB 10.96 kB/s Large file performance was about the same.

Re: Cable modem after 2 weeks

2002-04-07 Thread Eli Marmor
Upstream! Upstream! You forgot to report the upstream bandwidth! ;-) -- Eli Marmor [EMAIL PROTECTED] CTO, Founder Netmask (El-Mar) Internet Technologies Ltd. __ Tel.: +972-9-766-1020 8 Yad-Harutzim St. Fax.: +972-9-766-1314

RE: RE : cable modem

2002-03-26 Thread Arie Vayner
might be crucial for performance. Have fun Arie Vayner Netvision -Original Message- From: Yehuda Drori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 12:46 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Geoffrey S. Mendelson; Nadav Har'El Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RE : cable modem first

Re: RE : cable modem

2002-03-18 Thread Yehuda Drori
first I want to apologize for the mistakes I made last night ( 10x Nadav :-) now some more info: I joined the cable test Arutzi Zahav running more then 6 month ago. I've connected my Linux box which work both as a server/workstation and a router for another box running win. as for the speed,

Re: RE : cable modem

2002-03-18 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
> not be the one you'll notice - maybe somebody who will try such a service can > comment on what actually happens (as far as I know, this service isn't widely > available in Israel yet). It was not legal to sell the service (except on an "experimental" basis) in Israel until yesterday. Not all

Re: RE : cable modem

2002-03-17 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Mon, Mar 18, 2002, Yehuda Drori wrote about "Re: RE : cable modem": > one of the major differences is the upstream speed. ADSL is asynchronic which ^^^ > mean that you can DL very fast comparing to UL ( wh

Re: RE : cable modem

2002-03-17 Thread Yehuda Drori
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Re: RE : cable modem

2002-03-17 Thread Shaul Karl
t; m-Wise > > http://www.m-wise.com/ > > Phone: +972 (9) 958-1711 ext. 105 > Fax: +972 (9) 958-1739 > Mobile: +972 (54) 482826 > > > > > - -Original Message- > From: Yehuda Drori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002

RE: RE : cable modem

2002-03-17 Thread Nir Siminovich
, March 17, 2002 2:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE : cable modem hi.. Nir.. there isnt any prob.. connecting via diffrenet NICs.. Geoffrey .. the procedure to connect to a cable campany is diveded in to two steps: first you need to connect your nic to the modem and set it to obtain IP fr

RE : cable modem

2002-03-17 Thread Yehuda Drori
hi.. Nir.. there isnt any prob.. connecting via diffrenet NICs.. Geoffrey .. the procedure to connect to a cable campany is diveded in to two steps: first you need to connect your nic to the modem and set it to obtain IP from a DHCP server ( quite easy ) sec. you need to log on using a web site